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Al Gore Supports Dixie Chunk's Comments  
User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1466 times:

http://launch.yahoo.com/read/news.asp?contentID=212841

The Dixie Chicks controversy continues with the trio getting some support from former Vice President Al Gore. Gore spoke to a college audience last week on the subject of fewer companies owning more media outlets, and what he sees as the increasing lack of tolerance for opposing views.

According to the Tennessean, Gore used recent attacks on the Dixie Chicks that followed anti-war comments by Natalie Maines as an example. Gore told the audience, "They were made to feel un-American and risked economic retaliation because of what was said. Our democracy has taken a hit," Gore said. "Our best protection is free and open debate."

Record sales have fallen for the Chicks and radio stations across the country banned the trio's music after Maines told a London concert crowd that she was "ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas." Maines later released an apology.
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What college student shows up for an Al Gore speech? I mean, if you need Al Gore to liven up your day, you know you lead a pretty dull life.  Laugh out loud


America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
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User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1461 times:

He's right on, though.


Free-thinking, left-leaning secularist
User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1455 times:

They have the right to say whatever they want. As the consumer, we have the right not to buy their music and radio stations have the right not to play it.


"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1446 times:

>>I mean, if you need Al Gore to liven up your day, you know you lead a pretty dull life.<<


If posting numerous threads on airliners.net about all the singers/actors/politicans you find "stupid" livens up your day, then your life must be pretty dull as well, don't you think??



An unexamined life isn't worth living.
User currently offlineDavid b. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1441 times:

Al gore is boring but that statement shows that he is right on  Smile/happy/getting dizzy  Big thumbs up


Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
User currently onlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5044 posts, RR: 44
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1427 times:

The title of this thread is highly misleading (not that I'm surprised, considering who started the thread). Gore does NOT support the comment made by the Dixie Chicks, or at least not that we know of. He supports their RIGHT to make the comment. He didn't say ANYTHING about the content of their comment. But then again, as long as you can make Gore look bad, twisting the truth is a given, right, Jcs?

User currently offlineKLAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1422 times:

Yeah, I would say that statement is pretty much on the mark.
Radio Stations shouldnt ban music and label it "Un-Patriotic". If they had said stuff about Clitnon, you guys would be in an uproar..  Yeah sure
-Clovis


User currently offline747-451 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2417 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

They were made to feel un-American and risked economic retaliation because of what was said. Our democracy has taken a hit," Gore said. "Our best protection is free and open debate."

Sure his definition" of democracy has taken a hit (the one that says you can speak out all you want except to radical liberal dogma). Actually, this is democracy at work. Ms. Maines has excersied her rights to speak and I have excercised mine not to buy her records, because her opinion differs with mine. And because I don't support her point of view does not mean I am obligated to support her financially-even though I support her right to free speech..

As freedom of speech is a right, it also means accepting accountability of the words you speak, since those words may dioffer with those spoken by others. That concept is called "responsibility", nothing Mr. Gore, the radical leftisits that dominate his party or their leader Bill Clinton seem to understand.


User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1414 times:

Bring in Charlie Daniels, he's much more wholesome.  Insane


Dear moderators: No.
User currently offline747-451 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2417 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1409 times:

Bring in Charlie Daniels, he's much more wholesome.

So's Madonna's American Life  Insane


User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1407 times:

Why is this thread here, anyway? Al Gore holds no office! So who cares?

Jcs, get over yourself. No one here, except for the few radical rights, respects your rants. Be a little more moderate and someone might listen.



Dear moderators: No.
User currently offlineTechRep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1402 times:

People, Al Gore and Billy Clinton have a new Talk show, how can a new talk show get "attention" during war time? Make dumb ass comments to get attention, ratings go up, then deny or backtrack on the comments, simple.

TechRep


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13241 posts, RR: 77
Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1390 times:

Which way are you heading? A new McCarthyism or something like George Orwell's '1984'.
1st Amendment anyone?
If you are so confident of the rightness of your beliefs, you won't mind an alternative view.
The irony is, if Baghdad turns into a real long, bloody slugging match, with US KIA's in the 1000's, many of the boneheads shouting down any dissent, will be screaming to 'bring our boys home'.


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1387 times:

Let me get this straight...

Gore is saying that these girls have the right to say what they want, but that those who disagree with them should keep quiet?

Sounds like a double-standard to me.

Charles


User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1380 times:

Sounds like a double-standard to me

Of course it does.

The baby-boom has perfected the art of double-standards and made it one of America's most abundant natural resources.


User currently offlineGoingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1376 times:

No, he is saying that those with dissenting opinons should not be portrayed as being "unpatriotic". As Herr Goering once said:

All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.



User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 16, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1367 times:

Jcs, get over yourself. No one here, except for the few radical rights, respects your rants. Be a little more moderate and someone might listen.

Wait, wait, wait...how do you know my political leanings? Basically, the only things I have spoken out about on these boards are taxes, foreign policy, and immigration. What about all the other issues? I am a Republican, but I am definitely not hard right. My views socially are very libertarian...



America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1355 times:

Here's some more red meat for the attack dogs of the Right:

Nobel Winners attack Bush Economic Policies.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2735269.stm

Now try telling them they don't know what they're talking about.


User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1333 times:

"Libertarian" IS hard right.  Insane


Dear moderators: No.
User currently offline747-451 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2417 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1326 times:

Nobel Winners....

You mean the ones who annointed Arafat?  Insane


User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 20, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1317 times:

"...what he sees as the increasing lack of tolerance for opposing views..."

Someone's got to be dumb not to see this obviousness, plus those 'someone's' have got to be dumb to lump those people that those 'someone's' see as all representing each other, i.e. Jcs17.

"What college student shows up for an Al Gore speech? I mean, if you need Al Gore to liven up your day, you know you lead a pretty dull life."

And this is all you have to say, huh?



The meaning of life is curiosity; we were put on this planet to explore opportunities.
User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1305 times:

"Nobel Winners....

You mean the ones who annointed Arafat?"

Duh. Nobel winners dont anoint anyone. Get your facts straight. Plus, these are Economists.


User currently offlineNormalSpeed From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1301 times:

"They were made to feel un-American and risked economic retaliation because of what was said."

Ok, Al, so we should be forced to fork over the cash for a CD that we don't even want, just so that the Dixie Chicks won't face financial ruin? Poor Dixie Chicks. Life is so hard.

Some of us use the term "free market economics," instead of "economic retaliation." Maybe if they didn't want "economic retaliation," they should have kept their pie-holes shut instead of alienating their audience.

For crying out loud! According to Algore's logic, I should be forced to subsidize musicians for the sole reason of my disagreeing with them. Stupid liberal ideology.

Sorry Al, this, I will not tolerate.

'Speed


User currently offlineGoingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 16
Reply 23, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1293 times:

I don't believe that's what Gore was saying. I dunno, it's akin to burning books because you disagree with the authors private life. The Dixie Chicks spoke out against Bush because of his stance on the war. Then events are organized to trash their CD's (most of which I bet were copied prior to destruction) and stations refuse to play their music because of their lack of "patriotism". I imagine that the real patriots, who fought and died for something called "freedom of speech" are rolling in their graves to what has become of voicing dissenting opinons. Had our view of "patriotism" been in place 230 years ago, we might all be residents of the British Crown colonies today.

And urging these boycotts are the very people who made disparaging remarks about Clinton on a daily basis. Of course, they were just expressing their "freedom of speech".


User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 24, posted (11 years 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1284 times:

"Libertarian" IS hard right.

Have you ever heard to the four square approach to political ideology? According to that approach facism is the equivalent of radical right.



America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
25 Post contains images 747-451 : Duh. Nobel winners dont anoint anyone. Get your facts straight. Plus, these are Economists. Or what ever they bestowed on someone like arafat....Duh
26 777236ER : 747-451, I'm assuming you mean Nobel Peace Prize rather than the Nobel Prize.
27 Lehpron : "Some of us use the term "free market economics," instead of "economic retaliation." Maybe if they didn't want "economic retaliation," they should hav
28 Ilyushin96M : Jcs, congrats. You have officially beaten this dead horse right into oblivion. Can you please move on now? Seriously, all this backlash against the Di
29 Jcs17 : Or maybe those consumers should have grown a brain so they can distinctify the difference between how people feel in their music rather than how they
30 Post contains images MxCtrlr : What Gore fails to realize is that it is the Dixe Chunks' right to speak freely about their opinions (or the one singer's opinion) but it is also the
31 Goingboeing : MxCtrlr - mega dittos Rush.
32 NormalSpeed : "I don't believe that's what Gore was saying. I dunno, it's akin to burning books because you disagree with the authors private life." Yeah, well, cal
33 Goingboeing : I don't like the Dixie Chicks much either. But you have no idea how frightening it is to see demonstrations where their CD's are burned. And Al Gore d
34 We're Nuts : Jcs, here is how it works: Socialism is the extreme form of Liberalism and is a stone's throw from Communism. Libertarianism is the extreme form of Co
35 NormalSpeed : "But you have no idea how frightening it is to see demonstrations where their CD's are burned." Well, I've never personally burned a CD (well, that's
36 Post contains images MxCtrlr : Goingboeing, God I hope I'm not coming across sounding like that overblown windbag Rush Limburger!!!!!! I may have to go and turn in my right-wing car
37 GotAirbus : Ladies and gentlemen, Any anti-war statement now requires "WARNING: Contains contreversial lyrics: government discretion is advised" stickers affixed
38 Goingboeing : Normal Speed - ordinarily I am a conservative republican. Look at the word "conservative" and tell me exactly what part of the Iraq invasion can be co
39 CX747 : Al Gore served under a President who was a joke, lost a Presidential election, was slapped in the face by his own state who gave their votes to Bush a
40 Post contains images We're Nuts :
41 NormalSpeed : GoingBoeing, That's all nice and everything, and you are entitled to whatever view you want. But you didn't address the main points of my post. Why sh
42 Goingboeing : That's all nice and everything, and you are entitled to whatever view you want. But you didn't address the main points of my post. Why should I not ha
43 Alpha 1 : Jcs, he supported their right to freedom of speech. I understand, to right-wing nuts like you, freedom of speech ONLY is permitted if you don't disagr
44 NormalSpeed : "In my way of thinking, burning or destroying a dixie Chicks CD is really not all that different from anti war folks burning a flag. Both are stupid a
45 Goingboeing : Didn't say that they were of equal status - just that both acts were stupid.
46 Post contains images MxCtrlr : Jcs, he supported their right to freedom of speech. I understand, to right-wing nuts like you, freedom of speech ONLY is permitted if you don't disagr
47 Goingboeing : No MxCtrlr - the bottom line is that yes, you have the right not to buy their music. An opinion that goes against the "bomb the fuck out of Iraq" mind
48 EmceeOh : Isn't the problem here the kind of "love it ot leave it" sentiment that's been flying around in the last year and a half? A large portion of American
49 Heavymetal : And besides, he was born in Connecticut! Whoa whoa whoa. We've spent the better part of two years and hundreds of millions in marketing dollars to ove
50 We're Nuts : I'm afraid that terms like "unpatriotic" and "anti-American" are very common under this administration because of the fear responce it envokes. When y
51 Goingboeing : I guess it bears repeating, with special emphasis on the key areas: Naturally, the common people don't want war ... but after all it is the leaders of
52 Dragogoalie : Al gore is a douche... --dragogoalie-#88--
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