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Racist "White" Austrlaia Part 2  
User currently offlineTechRep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1221 times:

IS AUSTRALIA THE LAST BASTION OF RACISM IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD?
http://web.ask.com/redir?bpg=http%3a%2f%2fweb.ask.com%2fweb%3fq%3daustralian%2bracism%26o%3d0&q=australian+racism&u=http%3a%2f%2ftm.wc.ask.com%2fr%3ft%3dan%26s%3da%26uid%3d241741c8241741c82%26sid%3d341741c8241741c82%26qid%3dFD5B8C350D6B8F498EE2450EF9D12D89%26io%3d7%26sv%3dza5cb0dee%26ask%3daustralian%2bracism%26uip%3d41741c82%26en%3dte%26eo%3d-100%26pt%3dAustralian%2bRacism%26ac%3d4%26qs%3d16%26pg%3d1%26u%3dhttp%3a%2f%2fwww.pastornet.net.au%2fjmm%2faasi%2faasi0604.htm&s=a&bu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.pastornet.net.au%2fjmm%2faasi%2faasi0604.htm

On the 10th of November 2001 the conservative led Liberal-Coalition Howard Govt went to the polls after an election campaign which historians will record as a victory on the back of racism and fear. The Howard Govt won the election after a campaign which has been universally condemned as racist by many prominent Australians, the United Nations and the international media. In true conservative style the Govt. milked Australians xenophobia and historically held racist paranoia.

Let us examine Australia's recent election, it's history on race relations and the long abhorrent treatment of it's indigenous peoples the Aborigines.

This week Jan 2002 the UN High Commission for refugees sent a special representative to hear Australia's defence on alleged breaches to the 1951 Geneva Convention which sets out certain standards for the treatment of refugees. When refugees arrive in Australia they are either imprisoned in detention centres or balloted off to other South Pacific countries for processing.

Australia is the only developed country whose government has been condemned as racist by the United Nations : 13 Oct 2000

http://www.country-liberal-party.com/pages/interpret_p10a.htm

UN and Kofi Anan blasts Australia over asylum ship: Sept 2.2001

http://iafrica.com/news/worldnews/792500.htm

Australia rejects UN racism report.25 March 01

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_690000/690213.stm

Amnesty International accuses Australia of violating UN convention: 29 Aug 2001

http://www.rte.ie/news/2001/0829/australia.html

http://www.amnesty.org.au/airesources/index-73.html

Prime Minister Howard's Falklands war: 14 Sept 2001

http://workers.labor.net.au/111/c_historicalfeature_tampa.html

Howard Govt wins election playing the race card: 10 Nov 2001

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/nov2001/refu-n10.shtml

A boat bound for immorality: Jan 8 2001



US press compares Australia with Nazis.



Former Australian Prime Minister compares John Howard to Australia's leader of white supremacist group, One Nation. And says election won on race prejudices. 12 December 2001

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/s415170.htm

http://www.smh.com.au/ballot01/0111/13/ballot3.html

Is Australia's current Prime Minister John Howard a racist? Jan 13/ 2002

http://onenews.nzoom.com/news_detail/0,1227,66535-1-9,00.html

Australia's Prime Minister John Howard accused of race hate. Nov. 13/ 2001

http://www.thewest.com.au/20011114/unassigned/tw-unassigned-1-sto31909.html

Los Angeles times says that Australia's refugee policy has racist origins. Jan 4/2002

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-010402refugee.story

Australians against racism. 2002

http://www.australiansagainstracism.org/tvc.html

Refugee Action Committee. 2002

http://www.refugeeaction.org/


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Ku Klux Klan in Australia and it's links to prominent political party One Nation and fanatical Christian fundamentalist groups.

http://www.theage.com.au/special/kluxklan/

Nazis in Australia.

http://www.jewishmag.com/48mag/nazis/nazis.htm

http://www.faira.org.au/pressreleases/1998/06/09faira1.html

Australia is a Nazi haven claims the USA.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/19991205/A17801-1999Dec4.html

Links to Australia's Nationalists, Patriotic, Anti- Immigration and White nationalists groups.

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~natinfo/links3.htm

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HEINOUS CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY:

The Australian aboriginal STOLEN GENERATION records coloured children forcibly removed form their families and assimilated into white society. The Christian churches played a pivotal role in this grotesque human right abuse.

Key points . An estimated 100,000 children were taken from their parents over 60 years . 10 per cent of Aborigines over 25 were removed from their parents in childhood, according to Australian Bureau of Statistics figures in 1994. . Other reports estimated the number at 47 per cent . NSW admitted in June 1997 that between 1940-1969 it separated at least 8,000 children, and said the real figure was likely to be much higher. . In May 1997 the report ' Bringing Them Home' by the Human Rights and Equal Opportunity Commission was published. . It called for a Government apology, compensation and a national Sorry Day. It said the Government's policies had amounted to genocide. . On October 8, 1996 Senator Herron, borrowing Lady Macbeth's line, told the Senate: "What's done cannot be undone." . In July 1997 the Catholic and Anglican Churches apologised for their role in the stolen generation policy. . On August 26, 1999 Federal Parliament passed a historic declaration of "deep and sincere regret" for past injustices to Aborigines. It did not mention 'stolen generations'

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/special/rsjproject/rsjlibrary/hreoc/stolen/

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/24/088.html

http://www.murdoch.edu.au/elaw/issues/v5n2/hammond52nf.html

http://www.smh.com.au/news/specials/natl/stolen/

http://apology.west.net.au/


THE WHITE AUSTRALIA POLICY:

Prior to the Second World War, Australia's position as a nation with a basically homogeneous European population was secure. Under the unofficial title of the White Australia Policy, various policies were in place to ensure this situation: immigration laws were administered strictly to ensure that non-Europeans were not admitted, citizenship requirements were very exacting and well-guarded, and governments of all hues were committed to a White Australia.

The Australian identity was based on racial exclusiveness. It took 60 years for the central plank of nationhood - the White Australia policy - to be replaced. Australia's most startling transformation is from a racially exclusive identity to a belief in cultural diversity.

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~natinfo/demise3.htm

http://abc.net.au/100years/PRE_EP2.htm

http://www.sugarmuseum.org.au/html/refined_white.html


ONLY IN 1967 DID BLACK AUSTRALIANS SECURE CITIZENSHIP TO THEIR OWN COUNTRY:

Aboriginal Australians only secured the right to vote in Federal elections in 1962. ONLY in 1967, following a referendum, Aboriginals gained full legal citizenship rights to the country they had lived in for 50,000 years .

http://www.aec.gov.au/history/timeline.htm

http://www.parliament.sa.gov.au/history/html/aboriginal.shtm

http://www.naa.gov.au/publications/fact_sheets/fs150.html

Aboriginal reconciliation today:

http://www.zip.com.au/~flea/reconcile/update2.html

http://www4.tpgi.com.au/2juls/resistance.html

http://www.antar.org.au/

http://www.racismnoway.com.au/links.html

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/orgs/car/

http://www.atsic.gov.au/default_ie.asp

Hundreds of thousands of Australians march across the country for Aboriginal reconciliation.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/asia-pacific/newsid_767000/767202.stm

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RACISM IN AUSTRALIA TODAY:

http://webusers.anet-stl.com/~civil/dvaus1.html

Current Prime minister John Howard moves in to rein Governor-General. The Governor-General, Sir William Deane, withdrew his decision to accept the declaration of Aboriginal reconciliation next month after late night intervention by the Prime Minister. Mr Howard yesterday described as "premature" the statement that Sir William would accept the declaration on behalf of the Australian people, as reported in early editions of yesterday's Herald.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/0004/28/pageone/pageone01.html

Australia's right winged Federal Minister for Aboriginal Affairs claims that Stolen Generation did not happen.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/0004/04/pageone/pageone09.html

Australia's racist current Prime Minister John Howard apologies under pressure. An embattled Prime Minister has apologized to Aborigines offended by the claim there was not a stolen "generation", as the Government came under intense new pressure from its own overseer of Aboriginal social justice to force the end of mandatory sentencing

http://www.smh.com.au/news/0004/07/pageone/pageone01.html

Aboriginal disgust at denial of history The Aboriginal leader who led the nation's major investigation into the stolen generation, Mr Mick Dodson, yesterday accused the Federal Government of "brutal insensitivity" in claiming no such generation existed and that "no more than 10 per cent" were taken.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/0004/03/pageone/pageone02.html

Current racist Prime Minister John Howard fails to halt apology push for Stolen Generation.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/0004/28/pageone/pageone02.html

Link.. as current Govt continues a 200 year tradition of denying the blacks of Australia a fair go. The result of all this being a whole people despised and un-loved in their own country and whose spirit is completely fallen and without real hope.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/specials/natl/stolen/


Australia's indigenous peoples are over represented in prisons.

Aboriginal peoples die 15-20 years younger than the Australian population, with

23 times the average death rate from infections of the kidney,

12-17 times the average for diabetes (one of the highest rates in the world)

and

3-5 times the death rate from chronic respiratory disease.

They are 10 times more likely to suffer blindness than the general population, largely because of corneal scarring from trachoma or unoperated cataract and, increasingly, from diabetes.

They are twice as likely to be admitted to hospital, usually so ill that they need to stay longer - mainly for dialysis, pregnancy and childbirth complications, respiratory and digestive diseases and injury. They suffer higher than average rates for mental disorders, alcohol and other drug related conditions, circulatory diseases, nervous system disorders, skin diseases and infectious and parasitic diseases. These conditions reach an acute stage because of lack of early attention - either because services are not available, or because they are inaccessible to Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders.

I posted a topic about "White Australia" before and my information was regarded as flawed and incorrect but never which data was incorrect. I would like to know how such a developed nation could be condemned as racist by the United Nations. Let’s look at the facts and make a determination if this is just true or not. I am sorry the post was so large seems to be a lot of data available.

TechRep

“aka Wog”


37 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineTechRep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1212 times:

Sorry for the misspelling of the country

Racist "White" Australia Part 2

TechRep


User currently offlineGlenn From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1204 times:

Doesn't matter. Your post was way too long to bother reading

User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1196 times:

Tech,
What are you trying to say? I agree, way, way to long.....


User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1189 times:

That post must have taken all day to write.

User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1185 times:

and if we bothered to show him that not only does his country do the same, but they take in 3x LESS refuggees per capita than our country does he'd be screaming about anti-american tripe ...

The two things to note about the illegal boat people issue are:

1. Not a single boat since then

2. The people screeching the loudest are generally from the countries that were silent when Australia was looking for places to park the refugees ...

Techrep, how many did your country take? That's right .. ABSOLUTELY NONE.

You need to build a bridge  Smile/happy/getting dizzy





ADG


User currently offlineTechRep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1172 times:

I believe the topic is about Racism, is Australia in denial? The United States recognizes our racist past and President Clinton went so far as to even apologize for such actions. Is Australia as bad as the United Nation is making out to be? Could the UN be wrong in making this determination? If so,why?

TechRep


User currently offlineMxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1168 times:

I just find it interesting, with all of the "anti-American tripe" being propogated on this forum, mostly by Austrailians and Europeans, that, when the tables are turned, they don't like the insinuation and get defensive! The shoe's on the other foot now mates! How does it feel to know that you too have skeletons in the locker? Maybe now, we can stop with the "your country is so arrogant" crap and debate the issues themselves - but alas, that is probably not to be!

MxCtrlr  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Freight Dogs Anonymous - O.O.T.S.K.  Smokin cool



DAMN! This SUCKS! I just had to go to the next higher age bracket in my profile! :-(
User currently offlineGlenn From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1165 times:

Is that what the topic is about. Way too long to bother reading.

Denial, I have better issues to deny


User currently offlineTechRep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1157 times:

Doesn't matter. Your post was way too long to bother reading

Seems that if the facts are too long or too many then ignoring them is the solution. Seems like Amnesty International and the UN have made racist accusations toward Australia and their answer from Immigration Minister Philip Ruddock was “The UN committee was intruding unreasonably in domestic Australian affairs”. I guess that pesky UN is everywhere.

TechRep


User currently offlineGoingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1152 times:

So should the US bomb Sydney despite UN opposition to "liberate" the Australian people?

User currently offlineGlenn From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1152 times:

make it shorter to read. Simple rule of thumb but yeah It's easier to ignore than to read that thread.



User currently offlineTechRep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1154 times:

You wont read the topic but you will reply of course. Denial continues.....

TechRep


User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1148 times:

Glenn,

It's all about someone with his nose out of joint. The issue of racism in Australia has been discussed here before and is ALWAYS raised by someone sitting in a country who refused to take a single refugee during that crisis. It ALWAYS misses the issue and it really only used as a "you too".

Australia, as a country with regards to racism, is no more racist than it's western Allies. It's a shame we share with others, but is no worse them many and far better than some. Individuals are a different issue, some are racist and some are not, but I remember no Australian ever dragging a black man to death by chaining him to a car...... or being beaten up on TV by a multitude of "our nations finest(sic)".

In fact, per capita Canada is the only country who takes more refugees than Australia does, so i'm not sure how anyone can expect to remain credible when trying to use the refugee issue to make a point other than a canadian.

By the way, my decision to vote a particular way in the last election had NOTHING to do with the refugee issue. It's nothing more than political point scoring.





ADG


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16365 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1146 times:

Australia is a very liberal nation with a high immigration rate. If you want to talk about racist immigration policies......discuss Japan.


Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineCathay112 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1147 times:

Wah Wah Wah, in every country on every continent there is racism. No-one can deny it and I certainly won't deny it!

So rather than post rubbish like this post something bright and cheery. This is a problem not unique to Australia but yes it happens!

So, moving right along!


User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1142 times:

Did you know Craig drives a "white" urvan, what a racist!

 Wink/being sarcastic



ADG


User currently offlineGlenn From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1142 times:

why not respond with a polite it's too long to read dude

But I guess your aim is to baffle with bullshit and annoy with innuendo

Well way to go dude, I am pleased for you.

Which country is yours again, the one that beats people like Rodney King because their black. hmmmm

you need to drop in to the Penis thread for a quick look. You may be at home there too


User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1139 times:

Might run a comp later in the day to see how many people spot the inaccuracies in the information TechRep has linked. Indeed, it might embarrass him to know that he's used Australias most radical anti-american organisation to support his stand

 Laugh out loud





ADG


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1135 times:

"Could the UN be wrong in making this determination?"

Not many here in the U.S. feel very strongly about the "strengths" of the United Nations right now. Could they be wrong? What have they been right on lately? Hell, they can't even make a decision...

Why are you picking on Austrailia? They are one of the few countries with the balls enough to join in the war on terrorism.


User currently offlineGlenn From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1129 times:

There's a war ?????

Gotta start paying more attention


User currently offlineTechRep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1126 times:

When the facts are overwhelming or can’t be disputed attack the messenger.

The Clinton Administration



User currently offlineTechRep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1123 times:

Indeed, it might embarrass him to know that he's used Australias most radical anti-american organisation to support his stand

I thought this forum was Australias most radical anti-american organisation.

TechRep


User currently offlineGoingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 16
Reply 23, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1121 times:

When the facts are overwhelming or can’t be disputed attack the Clinton Administration

The right wing talk show hosts in the "liberal" media.



User currently offlineTechRep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1119 times:

Why are you picking on Australia? They are one of the few countries with the balls enough to join in the war on terrorism.

Who's picking on Australia? This is an "Internet Discussion Forum" Let’s discuss this issue without attacking me. Has this racist policy changed in Australia recently? What seems to be the popular opinion toward the Aborigines? What is the future of the Aborigines? The lead singer for Midnight Oil, forgot his name, does he still speak on/for Aborigines issues? I doubt any of you "Aussies" here are racist, like say Toner but there seems to be a great deal of pressure from the UN and Amnesty International about this institutionalized racism.

TechRep


25 Glenn : who attacks who, Oh that would be you attacking us for telling you that it's too long to be of any interest Still is, Much prefer these 1 comment ones
26 Mx5_boy : From the length of this post and the heading I knew it would be a cry baby yank with his nose out of joint with Aussies. ADG is right - this has been
27 Glenn : True, ask cathay 112 why was his post deleted. He mumbled something about USA in the Negative
28 Post contains images ADG : I thought this forum was Australias most radical anti-american organisation. Only in the minds of the ignorant. TechRep is right, it is an internet di
29 Post contains links QANTASFOREVER : It is imprudent to group together the modern Australian populace with government policies that existed 40 years ago. One must understand that a countr
30 Glenn : And besides, the indiginous Australians are damn good football players too.
31 QANTASFOREVER : And besides, the indiginous Australians are damn good football players too. Right on Brutha. If we didn't like Aboriginies, we'd lose half the players
32 Glenn : Yeah but Wayne Carey is on a one man Safari to repopulate the teams just in case
33 QANTASFOREVER : Wayne Carey needs to only look at a woman to knock her up. What a man-whore, but what a football player!! QANTASFOREVER
34 Glenn : Over rated Over Sexed Over Paid
35 Mx5_boy : Cathy Freeman! *wow* Remember her race at the Olympics? I was in *shock and awe* just watching it on the telly! mb
36 Glenn : Nup musta missed that one. Did she win
37 Mx5_boy : 2000 Olympics 400 mtrs? Not sure but I have it on tape. Gosh it was awesome watching her. mb[Edited 2003-04-02 03:48:35]
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