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User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4856 posts, RR: 20
Posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1322 times:

I've read several times that Germany "is not helping" the US, and doesn't take any risk.

As far as I know, only the US and the UK, and to a far lesser degree Australia have taken combat risk. All the other countries in the "coalition of the willing" have either not sent any troops, or just some "symbolical" troops who don't take part in any fighting.

If you count that as taking risk:

Since 2001, there are German Fuchs Anti-ABC armored vehicles based in Kuwait in order to protect the Kuwaiti people and the US forces in Kuwait.
And many of the US soldiers fighting in Iraq are based in Germany, hundreds of logistical flights are departing in Frankfurt and Ramstein, the medical center of the US is in Landstuhl, Germany. Guess where Jessice Lynch is by now. Not mentioning that Germany is after the US, the 2nd biggest contributor to international peacekeeping/peacemaking missions (not counting the UK forces in Iraq), Germany is leading the UN mission in Macedonia, and, together with the Dutch, the mission in Afghanistan aswell. German KSK troops have fought along with the US special forces and the British SAS in the mountains of Afghanistan against the taliban.

When you read all this, keep in mind that military action is still something regarded very sensitive in this country, especially abroad.

Your hated Gerhard Schröder, aswell as Joschka Fischer, has risked his political life for the combat-mission in Afghanistan.

We didn't agree with your opinion on the war, and we don't participate with our troops in this war, but we are helping you fighting the threat of terrorism, and we are helping you with the Iraq war.

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User currently offlineAirsicknessbag From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 4723 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1305 times:

And you didn´t even mention our main contribution to Gulf War III:

German soldiers are guarding US military installations in Germany, thereby freeing US personnel capacity who can go to Iraq instead.

Daniel Smile


User currently offlineBmi330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1450 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1259 times:

Yep Germany aren't helping use drew with them at home but don't worry let us win home and away and that will be help enough thank you.

Use could always go marching in Paris again cant see anyone objecting except the frogs.


User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4856 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1240 times:

Well, WE would object it.  Smile

User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4856 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1201 times:

It seems that ignoring facts is more comfortable than discussing in a fair manner for some members...

User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1195 times:

It's no surprise that this thread has so few replies, just proves a lot of the Germany and France threads are only there to stir shit.



User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1185 times:

Airsicknessbag...this is Gulf War II, not Gulf War III...one at a time dude  Big grin

"Of course Deutschland will help die Coalition. Ve are massing troops to invade a country that has sponsored terror und Veapons of Mass Destruction fur years. That country ist Polen. Vee vill not allow Saddam Hussein...errr Husseinski...ja, Husseinski, to perpetrate terror uber Europe. He vill be stopped!"

-Chancellor Schroeder

I'm just kidding folks, lighten up and learn to laugh...for the past few weeks we've all been tensed up.

Besides, we all know Poland's WMD program is a threat to Russia, so the Germans wouldn't give a rat's ass!  Big grin

B4e-Forever New Frontiers


User currently offlineGlenn From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1178 times:

Well germany doesn't have a good track record in War but at least they have realised that fighting is not the answer to everything. I applaud them for not wishing to get involved in another countries problems. The world will be a better place when all countries can leave each other alone.



User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4856 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1158 times:

"Airsicknessbag...this is Gulf War II, not Gulf War III...one at a time dude"

It's gulf war III, maybe you should pay more attention during the history lessons.

Glenn,

I don't think that war is never unavoidable. Sometimes, war is the "less-worse" solution than letting a government continue.


User currently offlineTs-ior From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3450 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1159 times:


Anyway,the fact that Mr Schroeder said no to military participation is so much appreciated.One may say no to the U.S.A.


User currently offlineGlenn From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1148 times:

History Lesson was my best subject  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

When was gulf war 2, did I miss that one ?

war is always avoidable, unless of course someone invades you.


User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4856 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1142 times:

Gulf War 1 = Iraq-Iran during the 1980s
Gulf War 2 = Iraq-Kuwait/UN 1991
Gulf War 3 = Iraq-US/UK 2003


User currently offlineKLAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1138 times:

I really don't mind the German position, atleast they are sincere and consistent.

-CLovis


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1133 times:

I have never heard the Iran-Iraq War listed at Gulf War I.

Only recently has there been a gulf war I and II, before it was just called the Persian Gulf war.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineKLAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1132 times:

Me neither, I thought this was Gulf War 2. That great movie-poster thing says Gulf War 2, the one with Bush and Connie Rice on it.

-CLovis


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1130 times:

Well you know this could be Gulf War III.....The Search for Sadam.

Because Gulf War II........The Wrath of George just doesn't have the same ring.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineBoeing4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1105 times:

It's gulf war III, maybe you should pay more attention during the history lessons.

Ummm...no Racko...wrong. The war between Iran and Iraq is known as the Iran/Iraq war. The Persian Gulf War in 91 was Desert Storm...the First Gulf War. Perhaps YOU should pay more attention to your history lessons.

B4e-Forever New Frontiers


User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4453 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1102 times:

This is "Gulf War II". The war between Iran and Iraq is knows as the Iran Iraq war. This goes out to the German fellas. Thanks for guarding our military installations as we go off to war. Don't drink our bear or sleep with our women.


"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1090 times:

Don't drink our bear

what the?  Laugh out loud




ADG


User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4453 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1087 times:

Ahh it is going on 11:35p.m. local time and my typing hands failed me! So, here we go again. Don't drink our beer or sleep with our women.


"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
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