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User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1073 times:

here we go Aussies .. what's better, Sydney or Melbourne?

Sydney was the first Australian city, but Melbourne holds the history.

My vote? Melbourne, but them i'm a mexican at heart ....





ADG

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User currently offlineGlenn From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1064 times:

I kinda like Melbourne for the footy

I think Sydney is a nicer City

I think Canberra is betta still


User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1059 times:

Not this old chesnut?

OK let us ask the following questions:

Which city is the most beautiful?

Which city is the most ethnically divers?

Which city constantly has it's workers voted the most efficient and productive across a huge spectrum?

Which city has the cleanest *working* harbour in the world?

Which city has the greatest implementation of public transport for a car based city?

Which city is ringed by beautiful national parks?

Which city has the majority of Australia's national Icons?

Which city has the most comprehensive capital works programme for water conservations and the non-polution of waterways in the world?

Which city has been Conde Naste *destination of the year* the most?

Which city held *the best olympics ever*?

I could go on...

Run away Melbourne - there is only *one* city in Australia.

mb

S Y D N E Y



User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1057 times:

Which city has more clowns per capita than any other ? SYDNEY




ADG


User currently offlineSkystar From Australia, joined Jan 2000, 1363 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1055 times:

I'll bring you up on one point - ethnic diversity.

A colleague at work from Sydney was comparing it to Melbourne. She said one thing she preferred about Melbourne is overall it is far more mixed than Sydney - you go into most workplaces in Melbourne, and generally they are more mixed according to her.

Another point she made is that in Sydney there tends to be a lot more concentration of ethnic groups in particular areas, whereas it seems to be more spread out in Melbourne. Could be possible I guess, naturally Melbourne has some of this too.

Melbourne does have the largest Greek and Sri Lankan populations outside their home countries.

BTW - according to a study done years back, when your water up in Sydney was infected with who knows what kind of funny bugs, Melbourne actually was rated as having the 6th cleanest water supply in the world. Remember Giardia?

Does Sydney really have the greatest implementation of public transport for a car based city? I've never heard of that claim. In any case, we've got a simpler ticketing system. If you want to play on the who's flashier game - I'm not a gambling man, but well, Crown vs Star City.

We haven't had the Olympics for years (which was very well run I must say up in SYD - still remember leaving on an AN762 VH-RME, and 40 seconds after takeoff off RWY34R, Cathy Freeman won the 400m). But we still have the Grand Prix.

Based on my experiences in both cities, I prefer Melbourne. The cost of living is lower here, the city is better planned, less congested. At the end of the day, these things are more important to me than a building or a body of water - they aren't going to improve my quality of life, unless you want show off bragging rights.

We've survived without a fancy harbour for years. Our airport is one of the easiest to use in the world.

We have more variety here. Food is excellent, and you can never get bored with Melbourne weather. We have lower levels of crime.

Remember that accolade that Melbourne held for years - The world's most liveable city! http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/10/04/1033538761412.html. Sydney's down in 8th place - still not bad.

Sydney seems to have the big flashy things that are most apparent to the tourist. Melbourne doesn't have that - we don't need it, we're happy where we are. At the end of the day, once you peel beyond the facade, Melbourne is the place to be  Smile

Regards,

Justin


User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1051 times:

Justin,

when comparing the olympics . .don't forget 1956  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



ADG


User currently offlineGlenn From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1051 times:

Granted Melbourne is the sporting capital of Australia. Mexicans really enjoy their sport. In fact you would get a crowd in Melbourne for a door opening  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Sydney has the Gay parade, and while there is nothing wrong with being gay ( I heard that on Seinfeld) It is a good example of the difference between the 2

Not that there is a major issue there I just can't imagine a gay parade in Melbourne. Same as I couldn't see 80 000 turn up for a normal football match in Sydney  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1051 times:

*yawn*

Sydney is the better place to live if you have money..

No two ways about that one.

The better jobs are here. Our employment rate across all sectors shits on the other capital and companies come *here* for foreign investment.

Melbourne had a number of wonderful insititutions that the Kennet government completely ruined.

I love the MET which is no longer or in such a state that new transport is non-existent.

Star City v's Crown? Like any Sydneysider actually goes there? LOL

The weather is better, the environment is better, and the people might be facile to a degree but at least we are not misery guts like Melbournians.

The only good thing to come out of MEL was AN, and that eventually had the best terminal (domestic) at T2.

I don't like Melbourne.. I think it is a dump too.

Brizvegas is much better and a better climate.

Sydney people go *Oh Melbourne*..

mb

Brissy boy from way back.



User currently offlineGlenn From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1044 times:

I have lived in Melbourne and i have lived in Sydney. My Verdict is they are both equally placed on the "You need to leave list"

it's a good place for singles, but families tend to suffer, High housing prices etc.

Canberra was good. Between the 2, cheaper housing although prices have skyrocketed. So much so that we could sell up and move to a nice country town, buy a house outright and still have cash to burn. Not that we would
 Smile/happy/getting dizzy But in a few years, I envisage a move to a little farmlet somewhere out side Canberra. Probably near a small airfield.

can't do that in the big smoke  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineSkystar From Australia, joined Jan 2000, 1363 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1044 times:

Well, ADG, I did say we hadn't had it for years  Smile

We must be a little more modest here than up in Sydney. I'm happy here, Mx5_boy's happy there, isn't that great!

Environment is better? That's questionable.

Public Transport? At least our train network is logical. Last time I checked Sydney's network, it looked like a bowl of spaghetti. Oh yeah, that reminds me, we have the Italians here down on good ol Lygon St. We've actually got fresh rolling stock coming onto our network - yet Sydney has some real old bombs running down their lines. Melbourne tickets - simple. One ticket, travel on any mode of transport in that zone.

We certainly are the sporting capital, we've got passion in our bellys!

"The better jobs are here. Our employment rate across all sectors shits on the other capital and companies come *here* for foreign investment."

Hmmn, ABS Data for February 2003

NSW Unemployment Rate: 6.0%
VIC Unemployment Rate: 5.4%

Ahwell, we can't be doing that bad in Melbourne (VIC). I guess, seeing SYD's so great, the rest of NSW must really be stuffed up, dragging those unemployment figures  Smile Most people do live in the main cities!

A happy Melbournian.

Cheers,

Justin


User currently offlinePositive rate From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 2143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1026 times:

Sydney has more tourist attractions agreed. Sydney Harbour is an awesome place to visit. You can take ferries to other locations which is pretty fun. I've only been to Sydney once but i had a great time. Melbourne i've visited way more times and i like it too. As far as living i'd probably take Melbourne over Sydney purely because it's not as crowded and a little cheaper than Sydney. P.S Melbourne is host to Australia's best Airshow- Avalon! How did you aviation enthusiasts forget that one?

User currently offlineTsv From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1641 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1018 times:

Neither.

Sydney still smells of convicts and it always rains in Melbourne.

(thinks - waits for torrent of abuse)



"I told you I was ill ..." Spike Milligan
User currently offlineGlenn From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1017 times:

P.S Melbourne is host to Australia's best Airshow- Avalon! How did you aviation enthusiasts forget that one?

ah non AV Forum  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Phew, did I manage to convince you  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1005 times:

Skystar says:

"""We've actually got fresh rolling stock coming onto our network - yet Sydney has some real old bombs running down their lines. Melbourne tickets - simple. One ticket, travel on any mode of transport in that zone."""

Yeah and those rotten old Hitachi's are near new?

I've seen the new trains... Rather cheap and nasty compared to our Milleniums....

http://www.cityrail.info/aboutus/m_train/index.jsp

mb

Loves Sydney but will probably be moving to the Gold Coast soon..! *yay*


User currently offlineGlenn From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1001 times:

Be Craeful, that place is full of Queenslanders  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Howver, Pelican Sands is a nice place to stay for a week. 7th floor, directly on the beach.

Awesome.


User currently offlineMx5_boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 996 times:

I grew up in Queensland.

It's been debated amongst *official circles* if I can stand being around Queenslanders again.

I'll probably just bitch about them..

lol

They are the worst drivers besided Victorians who are the rudest in the country.

mb

clowny fun is NOT FUN.


User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 989 times:

Craeful?

Did someone mention crayfish!

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm






ADG
Clowns have crabs .....


User currently offlineTsv From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1641 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 988 times:

"I grew up in Queensland."

Well that's the first step in returning - acknowledging your "roots".

Second step is ... (can't think of anything funny when running a temperature so someone else can finish this)



"I told you I was ill ..." Spike Milligan
User currently offlineSenliture From Australia, joined May 2000, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 982 times:

it always rains in Melbourne.

No, compare to Sydney, our rainfall is lesser. The rainfall in Melbourne are mainly overnight and seldom last for a long time. Sydney, you can experience a long rainfall.

Personally I love Melbourne a lot more than Sydney. Sydney is too overcrowded, and if I live in such a kind of places, why don't I go back to Hong Kong? Moreover, Sydney is dirtier than Melbourne Big grin

Melbourne is really a sport centre of Australia, a lot of international games hold here. However, Sydney is the commercial centre of Australia. If you like to have a life which has a lot of discos, pubs etc, better go Sydney. But if you like sports or gambling, Melbourne is your choice. Remember, the Crown Casino is Melbourne is one of the best and luxury casino is the World.

Senliture


User currently offlineTsv From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1641 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 982 times:

"No, compare to Sydney, our rainfall is lesser."

I knew someone would say that. Have you ever heard the saying "There are lies, damn lies, and then there are statistics!"?

Talking about stats I'm finally back into 4th place (at least for the time being). Oh no that might be a cue for Matt D and "that" photo!



"I told you I was ill ..." Spike Milligan
User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 976 times:

Neither...
Australia is just too 'low brow' for my tastes.
 Smile


User currently offlineBuckfifty From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1316 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 974 times:

Sydney is a bit expensive, IMO. Melbourne is much cheaper, and the city is nice and clean. Just not as spectacular or high brow, that's all.

But then, I'm in Adelaide. Anything is nicer than it is here...


User currently offlineSkyone From Mexico, joined Feb 2001, 426 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 973 times:

My vote goes to Melbourne, specially if you live near the Crown Casino, you can always wake up at 3am and go to the Casino for some gambling. Although Sydney is not bad at all.

User currently offlineKaiTakFan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1588 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 967 times:

Sydney for me!! In mid March I made my 8th return trip back to Sydney. I just cant get enough of the place! I have been to Melbourne just twice and did not really care much for it! I think the city of Sydney is the most beautiful city I have ever seen! The beaches are great! The nightlife is the best, and getting around the place could not be easier! Cant wait to be back there in May! I should come down and check out Canberra! I need to actually see the capital of the country I love!!

Cheers!
Brian


User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 962 times:

Username: greg
Country: United States
Location: Texas

Neither...
Australia is just too 'low brow' for my tastes.


*chuckle*


25 Positive rate : If it's nice weather you're after i'd suggest either Perth or Brisbane.
26 Mx5_boy : Melbourne is too cold... Bbbbrrrr. As for the rain, yeah we have more rain here in Sydney (than Melbourne) but when it rains it *buckets* down quickly
27 Glenn : Canberra in Autumn is definately one of the most colourful cities.
28 Post contains images QANTASFOREVER : I simply cannot go either way on this one. I was actually in MEL for one day yesterday (A330 - yay!) and I must say that although the weather was pret
29 Post contains images Glenn : Canberra makes champions But seriously, in Melbourne, if you say there is a sporting competition that involves opening Beer bottles, or painting nails
30 Jsmith : Neither. This parochial two way argument is out of date. Both have good and bad points. Fly out of Australia and nobody gives two hoots whether you ca
31 Mx5_boy : James, Your point is? It's just a fun post to have stripey dig at each other. What is the reality check? I know stacks of people that *do* care what c
32 Post contains images Glenn : OK seeing a reality check is in order. We don't care what's better to live in, it's friendly competition between a few states. Unlike America, we don'
33 Post contains images Senliture : oh btw, I heard a joke some times ago, it was about Sydney and Melbourne: The people in Sydney will ask a question when they first met: "How much do y
34 Positive rate : Glenn rest assured the same "friendly rivalry" between states takes place in the USA too. People from New York etc make fun of people from California
35 Jsmith : Michael, the reality check is that there is a whole lot more to Australia than just Sydney and Melbourne. Cheers
36 Post contains images Glenn : gasp there is well i have heard about some mob in Western Australia, and a lot of noise eminates from South Australia butn I thought it was all rumuor
37 Mx5_boy : I have heard that there are some *mystical* places called Brisbane and Perth but it's like the yanks reporting on WMD's - *smokey* at best. Then there
38 ADG : You know, nobody ever suggested there *wasn't* more to Australian than Melbourne and Sydney. But as ALL sydneysiders and melbournites will tell you th
39 Jsmith : ...and this is a true reflection of the parochialism that befits many of the citizens of each city!
40 Post contains images ADG : ... and the whining of others ADG
41 Post contains images BartiniMan : My turn... Earlier in the year my friend and I went to Sydney for 2 days. Once we explored the domestic terminal we thought we'd give the internationa
42 Cathay250 : I chose to come to Melbourne from Hong Kong 2 years ago, because i believe i can get a better education here then Sydney, I am in Melbourne University
43 Post contains images QANTASFOREVER : i can get a better education here then Sydney, I am in Melbourne University now. LOL oooookay! Well, speaking as an ex-student of Sydney University I
44 Mx5_boy : Bartiniman, Your experience is not indicative of Sydney public transport. *yes* the airport line cost is a joke, but it was built by the private secto
45 Post contains images Glenn : Melbourne scares me. You don't know if your on a free road or not Thiose electric camera's get you before you know it. Next thing, you get a $6 ticket
46 Post contains images DeltaASA16 : "Don't know don't care...hows that..." Disney's The Emporer's New Groove NO, I guess Sydney cause they got the olympics...must be better than Melborne
47 Skystar : Hahah, I was leaving this thread alone, but We got the OLYMPICS FIRST!!! 1956 my friend! Ahh when it comes to Sydney public transport, espcially the t
48 Post contains images Jsmith : Mr MX - my State Transit Red travel pass costs $30 so I don't know where in Sydney you get your discounted card from? Care to tell me where I can get
49 Post contains images Senliture : well, I don't like the transport system in Sydney, it's so differcult to understand, I mean the bus network. You can hardly find which bus you should
50 L-188 : Sydney, Nebraska. That is where the Cabala's chain of hunting and fishing stores started. Definately not Melborne Florida. The girl my dog replaced li
51 Mx5_boy : J-Smith, Just picked a *ferry red travellpass* out of my bag when I posted that, it was used and could be old?? Not that old though. Try buying it fro
52 Post contains images Jsmith : sorry mx5, don't know what came over me there for a minute!! Thanks so much for reminding me what a perfect place Australia, or should I say, Sydney i
53 Post contains images Positive rate : As far as Aviation and career prospects are concerned the USA and Europe beat Australia anyday. I sometimes find myself envying the Americans because
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