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I Lost Respect For Al Jazeera  
User currently offlineAC320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1441 times:

I typically pride myself on being open minded. Today I visited the English Al Jazeera website for the first time and was frankly a bit pissed at what I saw and read.

There was a photo of the marine draping the US flag around the Saddam statue today with the caption Quick turnaround: Occupation or liberation of Iraq

and the article associated with it stated: "One obvious question: During live coverage, viewers saw a US soldier drape over the face of Hussein a US flag, which was quickly removed and replaced with an Iraqi flag.

Commanders know that the displaying the US flag suggests occupation and domination, not liberation. NBC's Tom Brokaw reported that the Arab network Al Jazeera was "making a big deal" out of the incident with the American flag, implying that US television would -- and should -- downplay that part of the scene. Which choice tells the more complete truth?"


Right on Brokaw, they are making a big deal out of this. I mean its a young patriotic soldier who was celebrating a victory over the enemy. Sure he didn't use the best judgement and corrected his error, so why make such a big deal out it. They seem to almost suggest that this one young soldier spoke for the entire US government and their policies. The rest of the article was the usual rant about US double standards, blah blah blah that's been discussed to death. Rather than looking at the big picture they seem to be focusing on small parts of it and distorting and blowing completely out of proportion. Sure lots of other parties are guilty of this, but this in particular seems to bring a darker tone and give a bad view of a situation that would have otherwise helped the US' image in the region.

Guess some people just can't win.


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User currently offlineEric505 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 592 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

I never had respect for Al Jazeera in the first place so I guess you're doing better than me.


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User currently offlineAC320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1412 times:

well I never really paid attention to them before, this was the first time I actually went to their site to look at their news personally.

User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1379 times:

You're not the only one......

Arab's Mixed Reaction

Arabs clustered at TV sets in shop windows, coffee shops, kitchens and offices to watch the astounding pictures of U.S. troops overwhelming an Arab capital for the first time ever.

Feeling betrayed and misled, some turned off their sets in disgust when jubilant crowds in Baghdad celebrated the arrival of U.S. troops.

"We discovered that all what the (Iraqi) information minister was saying was all lies," said Ali Hassan, a government employee in Cairo, Egypt. "Now no one believes Al-Jazeera anymore."


LMAO!!!



"Shaddap you!"
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16819 posts, RR: 51
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1371 times:

LOL!

I read that on another site and was looking to post it on this thread, thanks for posting that.

 Laugh out loud



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User currently offlineZeus01 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1366 times:

Respect for Al Jezeera? This is a new thing to me, what is it?



Al Jezeera: The Unbiased, unopinionated network of the free Arab countries


User currently offlineDeanBNE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1280 times:

I guess the people at Al Jezeera have been watching too much of Fox's coverage.

User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1272 times:

Like it was said yesterday by Jim Rome. It's in the Marines blood to display the American flag and such, and some or a group of young soldiers set up a US flag over Saddam's grill. No sooner was the flag there, was it taken down, as a commander, seargent, etc, realized it was wrong, and replaced it with an Iraqi flag (pre-Gulf War). The Marines started off wrong, but they quickly got it right.......That is what matters.

User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1271 times:

Al Jazeera == the Osama News Network...


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User currently offlineGo Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1268 times:

i love

"However, Tannous Basil, a 47-year-old cardiologist in Sidon, Lebanon, said Saddam's regime was a "dictatorship and had to go."

"I don't like the idea of having the Americans here, but we asked for it," he said. "Why don't we see the Americans going to Finland, for example? They come here because our area is filled with dictatorships like Saddam's." "

from your link jetservice!


personally i lost respect for al jazeera after it paraded the dead bodies of troops in graphic detail



It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit
User currently offlineAeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 705 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1248 times:

Being an American myself, I have to admit while watching yesterdays events live, when I saw the guy bringing the US flag up the ladder, I was sitting here saying 'oh no, don't do it'. don't do it. I hate to admit I cringed when he did that, because I knew how it would have been construed in certain peoples eyes. I was glad that he took it down.

I do, however, understand that he was 'caught up in the moment', and that is understandable. Even more understandable is that his family immigrated from Burma.


User currently offlineDeanBNE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1236 times:

So many people here - I'm assuming mainly American's - are critizing Al Jazeera and indeed the footage of the dead was macabre. However I personally I think it is of more importance of how the news is represented in your home country. So I'd like to ask the Americans on here what they think of Fox's standards. Thus far I have not heard of any critism of their style

User currently offlineGo Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1232 times:

i recieve al jazeera, abu dulabi and mtu-muslim news in the uk.

i also recieve fox, cnn, sky, bbc etc etc.

fox is the worst out of the 'western media' while al jazeera is the worst from the middle eastern media.



It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit
User currently offlineGo Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1231 times:

"Just look carefully, I only want you to look carefully. Do not repeat the lies of liars. Do not become like them. Once again, I blame al-Jazeera before it ascertains what takes place. Please, make sure of what you say and do not play such a role."

from http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/



It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit
User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1216 times:

This IS a big deal. You don't come into someones country with stated aim to liberate them, and then quickly plant a flag in thier front yard. You should help them raise their own flag.

This is a pretty serious public opinion gaff that can turn "liberation" to "occupation" in a hurry.

Than again, I'm not sure that all of the soldiers understand how inappropriate it was. Hopefully the lesson was learned.

If you want to turn the jubiliation of the Iraqi people to mistrust very quickly, just raise a few more flags...

I have to wonder. How many flags did the coalition troops bring with them? Is this a flag used to identify military vehicles?


User currently offlineErj190 From Portugal, joined Dec 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1191 times:


The Arab public opinion is in most aspects quite similar to the American public opinion.

They listen to the channel they think sounds best, and they believe everything they hear.

Whenever they listen to something, they do not question the news, they question the reporter.

Look at what happened with Peter Arnett.

So, Arabs and Americans alike, will accept any crap that censored or self-censored media throws at them.

Until the moment absolute evidences show that the media was actually lying.

It happens with Al Jazeera, and it happens in the USA where FOX news has the credibility of Donald Duck.

Well... I know, I know... some still believe Donald Duck is credible.

The advantage of the US media is that History is written by the winners, so, most of the lies and hoaxes the US media broadcasted, will go in history like the most absolute truth. They follow Goebbels teachings, which said "...A lie, repeated countless times will become true..."

Narrow-mindedness operates miracles Big grin


User currently offline4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2997 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1187 times:

erj,

So you are saying that Peter Arnett was right in saying that the Coalition plan had "clearly ... failed"?

Bagdad Pete damn well should have been questioned. I still scratch my head wondering what the hell he was thinking there.



Ghosts appear and fade away.....................
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16819 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1182 times:

Peter Arnett was fired from CNN a few years ago because he lied, I don't think you can say that the US Media are liars.

They sometimes "Spin" stories but almost never do they lie, case in point is the thrashing the Bush Administration Especially Donald Rumsfeld was taking in the media just last week, they (including Peter Arnett) said the Military campaign was a failure. Two weeks after the first troops crossed into Iraq the US Army took Baghdad International airport, three weeks after the start Bagdad falls.

I would say that's probably one of the best military campaigns ever developed, they adapted to the unconventional tactics of the Fedyen and over came.

Al Jazeera on the other hand was caught in a lie yesterday by CNN, an Al Jazeera reporter yesterday was interviewing a US Marine in Baghdad. The reporter was making small friendly talk saying that he was raised in North Carolina (where the Marine is from), the Marine response was something along the lines of "wow small world".

Yet when the Al Jazeera translators translated the conversation into Arabic it was twisted to sound racist..

Al Jazeera reporter,

"hi Marine where are you from."

Marine's response.

"North Carolina"

Al Jazeera's Reporters response.
"I grew up in North Carolina"

(here's where Al Jazeera twisted this Marines words)

His reponse in English (which you can hear over the Arabic translator ) was something like "it's a small world"

Yet the Al Jazeera translators changed that to..

" Wow, you do not look like a white Red neck"

WTF?







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User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1148 times:

Isn't the term "White Redneck" redundant?

User currently offlineLHMark From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 47
Reply 19, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1145 times:

Not if you're Karl Malone of the Utah Jazz


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1055 times:

It has become apparent over the passing couple of weeks that Al-Jazeera was never interested in impartially reporting news.

They where into pandering stories for their audience.

And they now have a serious amount of egg on their face.



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User currently offlineTs-ior From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3450 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1041 times:


You may know that Arabs have never respected your CNN,FoxNews,...

Today media is unbiased and it defends the interests and the ideas of its viewers.Al Jazeera is an Arab and Muslim news channel and it has to doubt in the announced intentions of the coalition forces,as the invaded country is an Arab and Muslim one.No one may judge Al Jazeera for what they said or what they mentioned in their website.

Did CNN showed the Iraqi civil victims in hospitals ? Of course not,because this could hurt its viewers and make them change their minds.Americans have seen the coalition forces training,cleaning their arms and preparing themselves for a prompt and successful invasion and this,of course,secure the public opinion and boost the number of war partisans.Is this unbiased ?


As long as media is concerned,i think we can not talk about respect or non-respect.It is a question of choice and interest.


User currently offlineCon-pilot From United States of America, joined Sep 2002, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1030 times:

Yes CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS and FOX all showed Iraqi civilians in hospitals with terrible wounds received from being caught in fire fights and air-strikes from collation forces. They have shown horribly wounded women and children lying in crowded hospitals. In one scene that was shown over and over again there was a man that had both legs and one arm blown off after an Apache gunship attack.

We have true freedom of the press in the United States, get over it! The only video not shown by the US media were the pictures of what apparently were US POW shot in the head.

Therefore according to your point of view Ts-ior it should have been the other way around.



Remember that different is different, not better or worse, just different.
User currently offlineAtenara From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1021 times:

war is war.
who cares what al jazeera says, there just doing what they have to do because it apparently is part of their culture.


User currently offlineTs-ior From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3450 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (11 years 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1017 times:


Oooh sorry,you care about what Al Jazeera says.

Why Aljazeera.net has been hacked ?

Why Americans want to end its satellite transmission ?

Why you zap and watch its programs ?

All this and you do not care of it ?


25 Post contains links Keesje : Luckely we had a wide coverage of news, at least in Europa. For me http://news.google.com/ was the best, the most diverse sources .. I´m dissapointed
26 Krushny : Some of you guys forget that Al Jazeera is an Arab broadcast for Arab public, and they do not give a f**k if some guy in Cleveland, Atabaska or Rafel
27 AC320 : A hundred Al Jazeeras?! Considering some of the crap I've read, that would be a bad thing.
28 Post contains images MxCtrlr : Krushny, Some of you guys forget that Al Jazeera is an Arab broadcast for Arab public, and they do not give a f**k if some guy in Cleveland, Atabaska
29 Racko : MxCtrlr, show me evidence (archived articles or anything) of Al Jazeera claiming the Iraqis would be winning.
30 Post contains links 747-451 : Who needs to compalin about Al-Jazeera and their lying when we have our own version. It appears that CNN is just as tilted as AJ in their curious ommi
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