AC320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1458 times:
I typically pride myself on being open minded. Today I visited the English Al Jazeera website for the first time and was frankly a bit pissed at what I saw and read.
There was a photo of the marine draping the US flag around the Saddam statue today with the caption Quick turnaround: Occupation or liberation of Iraq
and the article associated with it stated: "One obvious question: During live coverage, viewers saw a US soldier drape over the face of Hussein a US flag, which was quickly removed and replaced with an Iraqi flag.
Commanders know that the displaying the US flag suggests occupation and domination, not liberation. NBC's Tom Brokaw reported that the Arab network Al Jazeera was "making a big deal" out of the incident with the American flag, implying that US television would -- and should -- downplay that part of the scene. Which choice tells the more complete truth?"
Right on Brokaw, they are making a big deal out of this. I mean its a young patriotic soldier who was celebrating a victory over the enemy. Sure he didn't use the best judgement and corrected his error, so why make such a big deal out it. They seem to almost suggest that this one young soldier spoke for the entire US government and their policies. The rest of the article was the usual rant about US double standards, blah blah blah that's been discussed to death. Rather than looking at the big picture they seem to be focusing on small parts of it and distorting and blowing completely out of proportion. Sure lots of other parties are guilty of this, but this in particular seems to bring a darker tone and give a bad view of a situation that would have otherwise helped the US' image in the region.
KROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1289 times:
Like it was said yesterday by Jim Rome. It's in the Marines blood to display the American flag and such, and some or a group of young soldiers set up a US flag over Saddam's grill. No sooner was the flag there, was it taken down, as a commander, seargent, etc, realized it was wrong, and replaced it with an Iraqi flag (pre-Gulf War). The Marines started off wrong, but they quickly got it right.......That is what matters.
Go Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1285 times:
"However, Tannous Basil, a 47-year-old cardiologist in Sidon, Lebanon, said Saddam's regime was a "dictatorship and had to go."
"I don't like the idea of having the Americans here, but we asked for it," he said. "Why don't we see the Americans going to Finland, for example? They come here because our area is filled with dictatorships like Saddam's." "
from your link jetservice!
personally i lost respect for al jazeera after it paraded the dead bodies of troops in graphic detail
It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit
Aeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 706 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1265 times:
Being an American myself, I have to admit while watching yesterdays events live, when I saw the guy bringing the US flag up the ladder, I was sitting here saying 'oh no, don't do it'. don't do it. I hate to admit I cringed when he did that, because I knew how it would have been construed in certain peoples eyes. I was glad that he took it down.
I do, however, understand that he was 'caught up in the moment', and that is understandable. Even more understandable is that his family immigrated from Burma.
DeanBNE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1253 times:
So many people here - I'm assuming mainly American's - are critizing Al Jazeera and indeed the footage of the dead was macabre. However I personally I think it is of more importance of how the news is represented in your home country. So I'd like to ask the Americans on here what they think of Fox's standards. Thus far I have not heard of any critism of their style
Go Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1248 times:
"Just look carefully, I only want you to look carefully. Do not repeat the lies of liars. Do not become like them. Once again, I blame al-Jazeera before it ascertains what takes place. Please, make sure of what you say and do not play such a role."
Erj190 From Portugal, joined Dec 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1208 times:
The Arab public opinion is in most aspects quite similar to the American public opinion.
They listen to the channel they think sounds best, and they believe everything they hear.
Whenever they listen to something, they do not question the news, they question the reporter.
Look at what happened with Peter Arnett.
So, Arabs and Americans alike, will accept any crap that censored or self-censored media throws at them.
Until the moment absolute evidences show that the media was actually lying.
It happens with Al Jazeera, and it happens in the USA where FOX news has the credibility of Donald Duck.
Well... I know, I know... some still believe Donald Duck is credible.
The advantage of the US media is that History is written by the winners, so, most of the lies and hoaxes the US media broadcasted, will go in history like the most absolute truth. They follow Goebbels teachings, which said "...A lie, repeated countless times will become true..."
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16872 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1199 times:
Peter Arnett was fired from CNN a few years ago because he lied, I don't think you can say that the US Media are liars.
They sometimes "Spin" stories but almost never do they lie, case in point is the thrashing the Bush Administration Especially Donald Rumsfeld was taking in the media just last week, they (including Peter Arnett) said the Military campaign was a failure. Two weeks after the first troops crossed into Iraq the US Army took Baghdad International airport, three weeks after the start Bagdad falls.
I would say that's probably one of the best military campaigns ever developed, they adapted to the unconventional tactics of the Fedyen and over came.
Al Jazeera on the other hand was caught in a lie yesterday by CNN, an Al Jazeera reporter yesterday was interviewing a US Marine in Baghdad. The reporter was making small friendly talk saying that he was raised in North Carolina (where the Marine is from), the Marine response was something along the lines of "wow small world".
Yet when the Al Jazeera translators translated the conversation into Arabic it was twisted to sound racist..
Al Jazeera reporter,
"hi Marine where are you from."
Al Jazeera's Reporters response.
"I grew up in North Carolina"
(here's where Al Jazeera twisted this Marines words)
His reponse in English (which you can hear over the Arabic translator ) was something like "it's a small world"
Ts-ior From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3488 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1058 times:
You may know that Arabs have never respected your CNN,FoxNews,...
Today media is unbiased and it defends the interests and the ideas of its viewers.Al Jazeera is an Arab and Muslim news channel and it has to doubt in the announced intentions of the coalition forces,as the invaded country is an Arab and Muslim one.No one may judge Al Jazeera for what they said or what they mentioned in their website.
Did CNN showed the Iraqi civil victims in hospitals ? Of course not,because this could hurt its viewers and make them change their minds.Americans have seen the coalition forces training,cleaning their arms and preparing themselves for a prompt and successful invasion and this,of course,secure the public opinion and boost the number of war partisans.Is this unbiased ?
As long as media is concerned,i think we can not talk about respect or non-respect.It is a question of choice and interest.
Con-pilot From United States of America, joined Sep 2002, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 years 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1047 times:
Yes CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS and FOX all showed Iraqi civilians in hospitals with terrible wounds received from being caught in fire fights and air-strikes from collation forces. They have shown horribly wounded women and children lying in crowded hospitals. In one scene that was shown over and over again there was a man that had both legs and one arm blown off after an Apache gunship attack.
We have true freedom of the press in the United States, get over it! The only video not shown by the US media were the pictures of what apparently were US POW shot in the head.
Therefore according to your point of view Ts-ior it should have been the other way around.
Remember that different is different, not better or worse, just different.