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Australian Pullout Could Defy US  
User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2352 times:

www.news.com.au
April 14, 2003

AUSTRALIAN military forces in the Gulf could be withdrawn in a large group, possibly against US requests for the SAS to stay on in Iraq, Defence Force chief Peter Cosgrove said today.

Australians do not wish to be involved in an occupation.



ADG

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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2307 times:

Sounds almost like a sexual problem, ADG. Early pullout is not a good think. MAybe we'll call Dr. Ruth

(dripping with good-natured sarcasm)


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13744 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2308 times:

Yay! Dr. RUTH!






Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2302 times:

Early pullout is not a good think?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

By the way Alpha1, it's not premature withdrawl to leave once the party is over .. in fact it's politeness not to overstay your welcome  Wink/being sarcastic. I could make some withdraw before it all sags jokes but I might just leave that to your imagination  Laugh out loud.




ADG
(don't you just hate that ... like the time I typed up and distributed the Base Routine orders telling people to stay away from the Pubic Street behind the base  Laugh out loud)


User currently offlineMxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 35
Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2290 times:

Actually, I find myself agreeing with ADG in this case - early pullout is best, if timed properly  Big thumbs up (again, those seven guys on horseback are visiting my backyard  Nuts). I also agree with the Aussie's decision to remove troops as quickly as possible (something the US should seriously consider as well). Stay as long as it takes to set up a stable, interim government, provide advisors (Jimmy Carter loves that sh*t), and get the hell out to let the Iraqis govern themselves. The positive PR that would promote throughout the Arab world would do more for the War on Terrorism than anything else Bush & Co could think of. (and Stay the f**k away from Syria!)

MxCtrlr  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Freight Dogs Anonymous - O.O.T.S.K.  Smokin cool



DAMN! This SUCKS! I just had to go to the next higher age bracket in my profile! :-(
User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2283 times:

Can't see that woman as being any sort of expert on sex.




ADG


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2272 times:

You know what they say: If you can, do; if you can't, teach.


She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2255 times:

The larger issues are:
1. Would we notice?
2. Would we care?
Probably 'no' in both cases.....


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16285 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2251 times:

The larger issues are:
1. Would we notice?
2. Would we care?
Probably 'no' in both cases.....


You're probably right. We'd just hear ADG endlessly yacking on about how Aus did the right thing by abandoning the US.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2241 times:

Yyz, if she pissed you off so much, why are you intent on telling the rest of us?

User currently offlineAC320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2249 times:

What you're not allowed to say someone pisses you off?

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16285 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2238 times:

Yyz, if she pissed you off so much, why are you intent on telling the rest of us?

Why are you so intent on reading & commenting on it?

I seem to be the focus of your attention today! Thanks for the complement. I guess.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineNormalSpeed From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2241 times:

With all due respect to the Australians, they can stay or go. It probably wouldn't make much difference at this point.

'Speed


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2228 times:

Why are you so intent on reading & commenting on it?

Why not?

I seem to be the focus of your attention today!

Matt D's ignoring me  Sad


User currently offlineGlenn From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2228 times:

You're probably right. We'd just hear ADG endlessly yacking on about how Aus did the right thing by abandoning the US

Oh diddums, is Australia really that important to a country you have already beaten into submission.


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8124 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2220 times:

I don't know how much Australia contributed to the military success of the invasion (quite a lot, probably) but even so, the main thing they provide is the 'coalition' fig leaf. Without them the so-called 'coalition' is down to two nations, the UK and the US. So while I'm sure Washington and many Americans are arrogant enough to think they don't need any help, they need the political illusion Australia's presence creates.


fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineGlenn From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2212 times:

I am honoured that you think so highly of Australia but while we helped the Americans pulverize a little country. Do we really need to help america with Martial law

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineMarco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2206 times:

Matt D's ignoring me

Go buy him flowers. You know that always works.  Big grin



Proud to be an Assyrian!
User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2180 times:

Can't see that woman as being any sort of expert on sex.

Women can't be sex experts. Everyone knows that women don't "need" or enjoy sex like men do....

 Smile


User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2163 times:

No, quite frankly...while we love the country of Australia..and Australians in general....they have no real bearing on the course of life in the US--it's goals or missions--or the rest of the worlds for that matter.

A political powerhourse they are not--never have been...never will be.

This is largely why I think they are so well liked. They tend to mind their own business.

In many ways they are opposite of the US....Australia is to be respected, not feared. We (in the US) have largely been the opposite lately.....

Just an observation. No insults intented.


User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6461 posts, RR: 54
Reply 20, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2127 times:

There were two goals, to get rid of an evil regime, and to help build a prosperous and democratic one.

Could it be so that the Australians just know their own limitations?

One correction: There are not three coalition forces. Including the Danish war ships under US command in the Gulf there are four.

Right now Denmark is formating units to go and assist restructuring Iraq under US command. We are not chickening out from a job only half done. Even if our small efforts of course will not be decisive in any way.

Preben Norholm



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 21, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2128 times:

Australians do not wish to be involved in an occupation.

Isn't that a bit like throwing a party at a freinds house and not cleaning up the mess afterward?



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2124 times:

There were two goals, to get rid of an evil regime, and to help build a prosperous and democratic one

Actually, the goal was to de-arm Iraq of chemical weapons which they allegedly had. Getting rid of Saddam and installing an "undemocratic" democratic "non-Iraqi" Iraqi government was mere sugar coating for propaganda purposes.

One correction: There are not three coalition forces. Including the Danish war ships under US command in the Gulf there are four.

One more correction  Laugh out loud

Including a small contingent of Polish forces, there are/were five.

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But as to the topic, Cosgrove is saying that SAS forces will stay on for some time, which would indicate that other troops are likely to stay on also.

I agree that forces should be removed ASAP. They shouldn't have been there in the first place. Howard has guaranteed exports for Australian wheat farmers, although it will be tainted with Iraqi blood.


User currently offlineTravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3506 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2116 times:

Well, it was just announced today (heard it on news radio here in Los Angeles) that two US carrier groups composed of approximately 15,000 Navy personnel will be going back to their respective homes (Okinawa for the Kitty Hawk, and San Diego for the Constellation). In addition, a third carrier group may leave soon as well.

If we can send that many troops home now, I would think the Australians would be able to go as well (I'm not sure how many troops they have in the Gulf right now).


User currently offlineADG From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2098 times:

Well, it was just announced today (heard it on news radio here in Los Angeles) that two US carrier groups composed of approximately 15,000 Navy personnel will be going back to their respective homes (

That'll make some families very happy indeed.




ADG


25 QANTASFOREVER : Greg, Whatever your intentions in the above post, I'm feeling pretty offended as an Australian. You might think that was being nice, but you were actu
26 Post contains images Kappa13 : We don't need the Aussies anymore, let them leave. Today 75 Albanian Commandos are leaving to join us in Iraq. Thank you Albania. Todd
27 Glenn : Don't know why America needs our 2000 strong when Merca is sending home 15000. Are our troops really that well trained. I know where good guys but can
28 Dinker225 : I was once on a 2 hour van ride with Dr. Ruth. Lets just say that was an interesting 2 hours!! As for Australia leaving, no sense in keeping them ther
29 CX747 : I thank the Australians for their help in removing Saddam Hussein from power. That being said, military troops are still needed in order to try and ma
30 L-188 : Pullig out before your finished would definately back up those stories I have heard about all those Aussie war brides comming back to the US with our
31 Greg : QantasForever.... My apologies...that was not my intention. I have always like Australia. And Australians. Brgds.
32 Post contains images ADG : L-188, *chuckle*, but alpha1 beat you to the punchline on that one ADG
33 Post contains images L-188 : Well we all kind of figured that Alpha was a 30 second wonder. At least that was the word on the street.
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