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Breaking NEWS: Sharon Victory In Israel  
User currently offlineOlympic A-340 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 780 posts, RR: 10
Posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1480 times:

As reported on CNN, Ariel Sharon recieved 59.5% of the votes, and Ehud Barak recieved 40.5% of the votes...Poles closed a half hour ago, and 100% of the votes are in. Voter turn out 62% was very low and not expected. Any thoughts

Arrivederci
Olympic A-340

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User currently offlineSR3496 From Switzerland, joined May 2000, 792 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1348 times:

That could bring real war for the Near East. I think Sharon is able to start a senseless, bloody warfare with the palestinian. Same as in Lebanon some time ago...sad!

User currently offlineOH-LGA From Denmark, joined Oct 1999, 1436 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1343 times:

Eeks... thanks for the info Olympic A-340!

Well this is getting worrisome... I was hoping Benjamin Netanyahu would have been able to come back... as I feel he was pretty good... wow compared to here in the United States the vote count sure goes quick in Israel...

Moi,
Kai



Head in the clouds... yet feet planted firmly on the ground.
User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1335 times:

I see that Barak actually made some pretty large gains in the actual count compared to the pre-election polls. A good portion of the Israeli public probably had last-minute reservations over whether they really wanted to vote for someone as right-wing as Sharon.

Both sides did not have the candidate they wanted in this election. The left wanted Peres and the right wanted Netanyahu; we probably would have seen a more enthusiastic electorate if they had run.

In any case, I do not think this presidency will lead to anything good. Now both sides of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict will stonewall in every negotiation, and the Islamic Fundamentalists will have more reason in their eyes to stir up the populace and create havoc altogether.

I think I'll hold off on that trip to Israel for another year. Oh well Sad.

Aaron G.


User currently offlineMbmbos From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1324 times:

It's hard for me to view Sharon as anything but a war-monger. I suppose we'll see if anything good can come of this, but it's disturbing news.

User currently offlineN766AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1319 times:

Thank God that they are kicking Barak out.... truly a happy day in Israel and the world.

User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1309 times:

The fate has been sealed. There will be war in the middle east.


Dear moderators: No.
User currently offlineOlympic A-340 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 780 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1307 times:

I agree this spells out war in the future

Arrivederci
Olympic A-340


User currently offlineN766AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1304 times:

God forbid the Israelis choose their own president!

Thou doth protest too much!


User currently offlineG Dubya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1301 times:

Sharon must have won teh Israeli Electoral College, too.


G.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1293 times:

Just great!
Now Israel has a war monger in charge just like the U.S.!

G Dubya now has a reason to justify military build up and I gaurantee there will be a war with US involvment in the middle-east soon!

I hope the Palistinians can deal a suprise blow to them damn trouble-making Israelis.

I am so sick of those Israeli militants!



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1290 times:

I doubt Dubya would do anything to build up the military in the Gulf, much less Israel. He isn't very supportive (compared to the previous administration) of aggressive overseas involvment/meddling.

I hope Sharon isn't stupid enough to go and say nyah-nyah-nyah to the Palestinians again like he did @ the Temple Mount before this most recent conflict, or go and decisively condone the shooting of Palestinian protestors, or god forbid passive civilians. He probably is though, and this will probably lead to a major conflict, probably not in the form of another war but an extreme version of the Intifadah. Or maybe the Knesset will get fed up after the first few failed negotiations/mistakes and vote to kick him out and have new elections.

I think there will be a new election for Prime Minister in 6 months, tops. Anyone else want to bet?

Aaron G.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1285 times:

I hope you'r right Trvlr!


Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1287 times:

this war has been going on over there for over 2000 yrs its damn unlikely that just another minister will stop it!

User currently offlineTWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1288 times:

I am so sick of you!

Your militant. No one on this thread made any personal attacks against any group of people untill you and your juvenile stereotyping comments.

Oh, and your wish that the Palestinians deal a "surprise blow" is insulting and disgusting. Shame on you for wishing for more violence and terror in the region. Shame on you, after all the Jews and Israel has done for the black people and Africa respectively. Your worthless.


User currently offlineN766AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1278 times:

I correct my 2001-02-07 01:47:48 post:

>God forbid the Israelis choose their own president!
Thou doth protest too much!

I meant prime minister, not president.

But it is very true: thou doth protest too much! The Israelis TRIED a left-wing PM and he failed. Now they're trying a PM from the right. And, frankly, I think the right will handle it much better.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1272 times:

TWAneedsNOhelp, I am in tears.  Crying


I do not hate Jews at all.
I just can't stand the militant Israelis.
Not all Israelis are militant. Barak was a great leader with good intentions. There were many things that were beyond his control that lead to his defeat.

BTW, Don't give me this 'How can you say this after all we've do for you' B/S.

You don't want to go there with me, OK!

 Smile  Smile  Smile



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4182 posts, RR: 37
Reply 17, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1265 times:

The Palestinians have yet to recognize the israelis right to their own country. There will never be peace in the middle east. All those peace talks were show just to try to boost Clinton up..he never got anything accomplished. Sign a "treaty" and 1 day later another bomb goes off. Good one. We shall see where this one leads. One thing is guaranteed..there will not be peace over there for a long time to come. Period. I dont care who is president here or in leadership over there.


Chicks dig winglets.
User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7011 posts, RR: 26
Reply 18, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1266 times:

Superfly,

TWANeedsNoHelp does have a point. The Israeli's saved the Ethiopians, they have taken in over a million Russian immigrants, and yet have lost six million in the holocaust, numerous amount in the Russian Pogroms, and not to mention all those killed by Palestinian terrorists. And you "hoping the Palistinians can deal a suprise blow to them damn trouble-making Israelis" to me is absolutely disgusting. Asking for more violence to a region that has been troubled by it for only God knows how long is disturbing.

As for Sharon, while he may be a controversial figure, he is favored by the Israeli population, so he must not be that extreme right wing. And it cannot be said that the Israeli population is a bunch of military is not true. So perhaps this belief that only extreme violence will come out of this is a little unbased, we shall see.

Tzvika



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 19, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1262 times:

TWAneedsNOhelp & Tbar220,
Let's not get into this again, OK.
I know not all Israelis are militant. There are many good people in Israel that really want peace.
People like Sharon is certainly not condusive to peace. He is only feeding the fire and I am sure Bush will give a helping hand in one way or another.

And please, don't try to butter me up with what Israel has done for the Ethiopians.

 Smile  Smile  Smile



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1256 times:

>And, frankly, I think the right will handle it much better.

Right, by bombing the hell out of everyone and everything that dares to move.



Dear moderators: No.
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39478 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1253 times:

We're Nuts
Thats the only way the right knows how to operate!
Israelis have the war mongers too.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineN766AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1255 times:

I didn't say that... we'll have to wait and see how this all plays out.
But I am glad they finally elected someone who isn't going to give in to the damn PLO.


User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 22
Reply 23, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1255 times:

Well it wouldn't have mattered because Yassir Arafat is a dumbass anyway. He just doesn't know where to stop.

Aaron G.


User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 20
Reply 24, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1250 times:

Bush, please don't get involved... please!


Dear moderators: No.
25 Post contains images Trvlr : Don't worry, those 6 months will have passed before Bush finds Israel on a map... Ooohh, bad Bush joke. ssssssss Aaron G.
26 N766AS : Soo...lemme get this straight. Its ok for Clinton to get involved, but not Bush. Because Bush won't cater to Arafat? Is that it? I think thats it- you
27 Post contains images We're Nuts : It's purple, right? We all remember what an unpopular war did to daddy....
28 We're Nuts : If Bush gets involved, it means war for the US. Trust me, it's in the cards, we just have to hope Bush has the mind to stay far, far away....
29 N766AS : After Klinton got through with our military, I don't know how well we could put up a fight, but thats beside the point. And the Gulf Conflict wasn't v
30 G Dubya : trvlr said... Don't worry, those 6 months will have passed before Bush finds Israel on a map... Ooohh, bad Bush joke. ssssssss Ha ha funny. I know whe
31 G Dubya : hmmm, come to thinkk of it...its in Skokie. sincerly, Goerge
32 Cfalk : This is very bad news for the region. I consider Sharon to be hardly better than Himmler or Eichman. His murderous conduct in Lebenon in the early 80'
33 L-188 : LOT767-300ER this war has been going on over there for over 2000 yrs its damn unlikely that just another minister will stop it! So very true. Probably
34 Superfly : Cfalk & L-188, that was very well stated. Sharon being elected is very bad news for the region. My earlier comments were a little extreme. It just rea
35 Trvlr : G Dubya: Skokie. Haha I get it. But only b/c my dad lived there. That must mean the man controlling you is from Chicago then. The veil begins to lift.
36 FLY777UAL : Batton down the hatches. F L Y 7 7 7 U A L
37 Post contains links TWAneedsNOhelp : I am so sick of this Anti-Israel rhetoric. It's based on falsehoods and propaganda and is frankly, disturbing. Superfly, I don't know at all what you
38 Post contains images G Dubya : Aaron your a very inteleegent man for your age. I wish I could be as smart as you are...even half as smart I would be satisfied. probably not gonna ha
39 Post contains links TWAneedsNOhelp : Cfalk, I was particularly humored when reading about your supposed Israel "victimization complex" Check this out dude and than tell me what you think
40 Cfalk : There is always extremism. Why do you think those bombs keep going off, and the Palestinians keep fighting, sometimes via vicious means? It's frustrat
41 Post contains images Superfly : TWAneedsNOhelp, blacks are grateful for all the help during the Civil Rights Era, slavery and the continuing struggle for justice today. I don't hate
42 Mx5_boy : This is very disturbing news. One thing is a given here, we can probably expect a lot more trouble from the region soon. I don't want to think about t
43 Tbar220 : Superfly, I agree with you in that Israel and the Palestinians should coexist. I will say though that Israel is the only nation that is willing to coe
44 Cfalk : Boeing, "JERUSALEM BELONGS TO THE ISREAL YOU SWISS PIECE OF SHIT!!!!" Do I need any more proof about there being extremists on both sides? By the way,
45 Post contains images TWAneedsNOhelp : Superfly, Thank you for a polite and decent responce. I only got emotional because the context of your first post seemed to be a wish of violence and
46 Cfalk : Superfly, My point is that people have had enough of the fighting. It's been going on for thousands of years, and no end in sight because neither side
47 Post contains links Airlinefreak1 : you r a very paranioed israeli ...... arabs did help in the indian earthquake ....... The united arab emirates donated 1,000,000 dhs to the goverment
48 N766AS : >I started changing my mind after the "peace process" started a few years ago, and I saw how one-sided the Israeli attitude was Or saw the Clinton med
49 Trvlr : >MAINLY because Israel does not want to give up the West Bank Israel did want to give up the West Bank, Gaza, part of Jerusalem...it was actually Yass
50 TWAneedsNOhelp : Charles, you adressed your last post to Larry, I believe you meant to adress them to me. I'll happily answer your questions. The settlements on the we
51 Post contains images Airlinefreak1 : dear russel , i feel really bad now for bieng rude in my previous post , so i appologize for bieng a kid .... u seem to be a very educated man , and k
52 Tbar220 : Airlinefreak, If more than six million Arab's were killed since 1948, by whom pray tell? If anything, it is by their own oppressive governments. In no
53 Post contains images Cfalk : Russell, You are right about the West Bank Settlements having their roots in a time when peace was not an option. But if ever there was an opportunity
54 Post contains images Tbar220 : Charles, I will answer your post point by point. First off, I agree with you that if Israel wants to show the world their good intentions, then they w
55 Trvlr : I pretty much agree with all of what Tzvika has said so far...especially the part about the Palestinians being brainwashed by Arafat. If it wasn't for
56 Cfalk : Aaron, You are probably right. He has an awful lot of baggage with him, even if he has turned the page. Unfortunately, he has been their leader for so
57 Post contains images Trvlr : >One thing that we should remember is that Arafat was democratically elected, regardless of what we may think of him. He does represent the Palistinia
58 Tbar220 : Charles, The situation with Arafat is in a way similar to the situation with Castro. The people don't know what a change in leadership would do. I per
59 Cfalk : Tzvika, It's a circular arguement. Israel does not want to grant a Palestinian State until the violence stops, and the violence won't stop until there
60 Cfalk : Someone walked into my office, and I couldn't finish my train of thought. Last points: About the hardliners. I would think that the Israel should not
61 TWAneedsNOhelp : Charles, the acquifer is a very small part of the water source in yisrael. The airport closings are more of a punishment. If you keep rioting we'll cl
62 Mx5_boy : Hhhhhmmm, One thing that has always troubled me in regards to the Jewish Faith. Are Jews a 'race' or members of a religeous order? The reason I ask th
63 Post contains images Cfalk : Mb, In my humble opinion, what you saw at the Mosque is probably more in tune to what their faith teaches than some of the other ones you met, except
64 Mx5_boy : Cfalk, """If I were the priest, I would welcome you in, but if the chance presented itself, discussed with you the conflict that comes between Christi
65 Ikarus : One thing first: I'm one of those people seeing the entire region heading for war with the newly elected president. So I'm clearly biased against him
66 Cfalk : Mb, And here I was thinking I was being politically sensitive by terming it a "lifestyle" rather than the old terms such as "disease" or "perversion".
67 Trvlr : Mx5_boy: Your experience with Jews is, in my opinion, not one that is particularly common, at least in the United States. Was this congregation that y
68 Post contains images Trvlr : I take back by statement in my previous post where I hinted that being gay was a lifestyle. I know it is not one and I am sorry for saying it was. Aar
69 TWAneedsNOhelp : Hi guys. Well, I'm also curious about your contact with the homophobic jews. Jews in general are actually amongst the most liberal people in this coun
70 Mx5_boy : To all the Jewish users here, Please don't take my comments as that I "hate Jews" or anything like that. I had a bad experience and unfortunately it h
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