Canadi>nBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4049 times:
Hmmm, rather ironic the ship is docked in Philadelphia, the late Grace Kelly's
(Princess Grace of Monaco) home town. As stated in the article, it was this ship the blonde and gorgeous Ms. Kelly sailed on from New York to Monaco to marry Prince Rainier.
Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4043 times:
Norwegian is a solid cruise line, with a history of building very large ships. They also bought the SS France years ago and put it into service. If they announce that they have bought the ship, I believe them. It's not as if some unkown little company made the announcement.
This is great news. The SS United States was a wonderful, one-of-a-kind ship from an era that will never return - that of the transatlantic greyhounds.
Canadi>nBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4035 times:
Aaah, and the S.S. United States (formerly the Constitution) was the ship used in the classic "I Love Lucy" episode where the Ricardos and the Mertzes travel to Europe. Just a little history and trivia thrown in here.
LHMark From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 50 Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4020 times:
Modifications? It only needs a couple...
Like an outdoor swimming pool, a climbing wall, extra outside staterooms, a teal and white paint job, panoramic penthouse suite, helipad, bowling alley, funny-character-costume changing room, day-care center, another swimming pool jacuzzis, fireworks launcher, giant relief map of the Caribbean, lobster traps, neon lobster tank, lobster-bib sorting machine, comedy club, comedian, wheelchair ramps, "World of Steerage" exhibit, catalytic converter, Diversity Officer, feng shui room, puke-proof carpets, massage parlor, accupuncture center, liposuctor, 15' plasma TV, and a current inspection sticker.
"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
Heavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4022 times:
Doesn't she still hold the Blue Riband?
As far as ocean going superships, yes....she was the last 'ocean liner' to win. Her top speed is still classified (she was built, remember, partially with the task of getting American troops quickly to a European Soviet front)...but it was best guessed at 52 knots. She held it for nearly 40 years.
Since 1990, the Blue Riband has become a plaything for rich guys and their sponsors.....the only specification is that the vessel be a passenger ship. So, some custom built speed yacht is built and a token fare paying passenger or two is tucked aboard. Definately not very glamourous, but hey.....who cares about the pendant as long as this gorgeous piece of what's good about human imagination and engineering is BACK in all her glory!
Heavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4001 times:
Aaah, and the S.S. United States (formerly the Constitution)
I think you're confusing the United States with two smaller liners owned by the American (Export) Shipping Lines, Constitution and Independence who were similar in looks but not as large. Both ships sailed long and charmed lives right through the 1990s. Both, I believe, are laid up awaiting the torch.
The SS United States(her only given name as far as I know) actually was designed as a bigger. more modern version of her forerunner, the SS America. When side by side, America looked like a 2/3rds size replica of United States. America became Amerika, sailing under Greek registry for many years, then American Star. Spent after decades of service, she still took charge of her fate, wrecking on the coast of the Canary Islands sometime in the mid 90s while being towed to the shipbreakers.
Greg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3868 times:
The QE2 does not face retirement next year. She just applied for a three year license from Lloyd's and DNV--with no exemptions (so it's likely she'll remain in UK hands)
Althought the newer QM2 (153,000gwt) will do translantic duty in the summer (2004)--both ships will be cruising the Med and Carib in the fall and winter.
Althought the QE2 is over thirty years old...her move to turbine engines in the 80's still makes her viable for many years.
In addition, she has been SOLAS compliant for a decade.
If they choose to flag her somewhere else, it likely she could be around for another 15!
Dahawaiian From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 226 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3864 times:
Norwegian Cruise Lines also bought the retired SS Independence. I believe it was the oldest ocean liner in service having first set sail in 1947. It was retired in 2001 after years of service around the Hawaiian Islands. Hopefully I will get to see that ship and its' classic twin-funnel design again. The cruise ships they make now look ugly in my opinion.
The SS United States will be refurbished in the US and outfitted in a foreign country. She is the fastest ocean liner ever capable of 40+ knots. She has been rotting for decades, although I suppose NCL did a thorough inspection before they purchased her.
Norwegian Cruise Lines just got a special exemption from the US government allowing them to be re-flagged. They have one large ship doing the inter-island runs in Hawaii with two more new-builds on the way. NCL is expanding big time in the United States.
Heavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 3864 times:
hopefully I'll be able to take a vacation on this ship.
I'm not so sure, ST. I began to ponder what Jay said about QE2 and I thought to myself.....why would they spend this much money to ressurrect her?
The answer: Money.
I wouldn't be surprised to see United States decked out more as a huge private yacht than a typical modern cruise ship. Upper end "niche" cruising has always been an exclusive end of the cruise industry, and as the big modern monstrosities continue to pack in more of the cattle from Des Moines and Kalamazoo at $499 per person, the more discriminating cruiser might be looking for a little more class and adventure.
If I had to guess, United States will be decked out to please the upper end cruise market, with ticket prices 2 or 3 grand or above.
United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7290 posts, RR: 8 Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3829 times:
Great news! I would love to see someone save her from the scrapper! It would be a massive job to refit her after years of neglect. I heard talk about her being converted to a museum like the Queen Mary in Long Beach,which is a fabulous attraction to tour. The resto would make a breat TV documentary on like TLC . I wonder how structurally sound she is ? Anyway,here's an official link to her.
Heavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 3811 times:
Ah! Ha! Now I'm beginning to see the light.....and the light is...Senator Trent Lott...
The refurbishment of the hull and superstructure will be done at US shipyards with the outfitting completed overseas.
A new federal law will allow NCL to complete the stalled Project America as a US flagged and US manned operation for inter-island Hawaii cruise service. NCL purchased the partially completed first Project America ship and substantial materials and related components for the second Project America ship from Northrop Grumman Ship Systems (NGSS) in September 2002. The legislative initiative was designed to recover the US investment in Project America, generating hundreds of millions of dollars in economic activity and tax receipts, and creating more than 20,000 US jobs.
Lott pulls out all the stops to keep his bread and butter industry, shipbuilding in Pascagoula, swimming in federal loot. You may rest assured there's likely some serious federal cash going into both the United States and the suddenly re-born Project America.
The cynic in me smells corporate welfare. The shiplover doesn't care. I guess I'll have to deal with it.
MD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8479 posts, RR: 13 Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 3797 times:
Actually, the United States held the Blue Riband for a long, long time. It wasn't broken until the British took that Channel Cat high speed fricking FERRY of their's that was meant to cross the English Channel and decided that they should have the Blue Riband just because their trimaran made one special trip across the Atlantic with fare paying "passengers". Frankly, I don't have a problem with the British have the Blue Riband, but a ferry? It belongs to one of the great liners.
MD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8479 posts, RR: 13 Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 3792 times:
Although I'm not sure exactly what the 1990 figure means, if that was the Channel Cat or not. Hmmm....
And frankly, I wouldn't mind seeing a race between the Enterprise and the United States. That would be interesting. Although I've heard that the Enterprise's top speed is limited by the fact that the hull starts deforming if you go too fast. That's got to be fast.