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The New BMW Mini Cooper  
User currently offlineDinker225 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1058 posts, RR: 19
Posted (11 years 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

A guy I work with recently purchased one of the new BMW Mini Coopers. When he purchased it the guy at the dealer ship told him that cables didn't connect the gas pedal with the gas inlet on the engine and the brake to the brakes. It is all supposedly done remotely or something like that. The guy at the dealer ship warned him that using electronic devices such as cell phones or laptops could hamper the ability to maintain control of the car. Any body have one of these new Mini's that can shed some light on this? OR is my friend just pulling my leg? Thanks

Dinker


Two rules in aviation, don't hit anything and don't run out of gas, cause if you run out of gas yer gonna hit something.
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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7737 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (11 years 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1412 times:

The Mini uses a drive-by-wire system, which isn't all that new tech wise... drive-by-wire systems have been in use for around 5 yrs. So if you buy that using your cell phone in the plane will affect the fly-be-wire system, then don't use your cell phone in a Mini. Honestly, with the car... I'd doubt there would be any effect whatsoever.


Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1417 times:

I just bought a Mini Cooper "S" - dont know much about the car, I will get it approximately 2 months from now - all I know - it is a little rocket - 160 hp engine and some 135 mph - 220 kph as maximum speed... Designed by BMW, assembled in UK, engine built in Brazil...
xxx
I bought this one because of ... nostalgia of my younger days !!!
I had a Mini Cooper (Morris then) in 1967, 1275 cc engine, was a honest 115-120 mph (195 kph) on the road... then in 1978, I bought the version assembled in Italy by Innocenti - still a 1275 cc engine... my wife destroyed that one last year in an accident...
xxx
Whatever they tell you about the Mini Cooper - believe it, it is probably true...
An outstanding car - looking at the surprised face of other people on the road as you pass them...
xxx
(s) Skipper  Smile


User currently offlineAvt007 From Canada, joined Jul 2000, 2132 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (11 years 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1405 times:

Drive by wire throttle, yes. Brake by wire brakes? I seriously doubt it. Transportation Department officials around the world tend to be very leery of making things like that street legal.

User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (11 years 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1396 times:

Mini does not have brake by wire, the only cars that I am aware of with brake by wire are the Mercedes-Benz SL and the new E Class. I also believe they have a backup manual system, but essentially, the brake pedal is linked by wires. Drive by wire has been around for a few years on a few cars, and it's becoming fairly common. My car has drive by wire.


"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineDinker225 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1058 posts, RR: 19
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1387 times:

Hey Skipper, my friend also ordered his Mini through a dealership back in September-October. It arrived around Christmas. The dealership called up and said that the factory configured it wrong so they sold it on the lot and ordered it again.

I wish you many more years of great driving memories skipper. I am extremely envious of you and your new Mini! Maybe one day I too will own one.


Dinker



Two rules in aviation, don't hit anything and don't run out of gas, cause if you run out of gas yer gonna hit something.
User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1398 times:

I've been using various BMW drive-by-wire systems since 1994, the first year I bought a BMW which had that system for the throttle linkage. Been using cell phones since then as well, and no problems.

Your friend is feeding you a myth - a line of bullsh&t that people will spout out at parties in order to sound knowledgeable, and which he probably heard at a party from another BS artist who was trying to sound knowledgable.

Such myths are like chain e-mails. Kill it by throwing into the dustbin and do not forward them to anyone.

Charles


User currently offlineJETPILOT From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3130 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1362 times:

It's not a BMW Mini Cooper....

It's a Mini Cooper.

BMW happens to own the company.

JET


User currently offlineJared From United States of America, joined May 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1355 times:

Yeah.

Ford also owns Jaguar, so why not call it a Ford Jaguar?

I ordered my MINI last june/july. I spec'd out a Cooper S, British Racing Green with white roof/mirrors/stripes, all 3 packages plus black leather.

Around October, I got a call that they had a car just like that on a deal that fell through, trouble was, it had the $1600 GPS also. It was hard, but I said no thanks I'll wait till March, that's when my june/july order was projected to be built.

November 12th or so I got a call that they had another deal that fell through but it was EXACTLY to my specs. So I got stuff in line and took delivery November 16th.

Skipper, congrats! You'll love it. What color combo?


User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1350 times:

It may have borrowed some parts from Beemer...but it's not a BMW! Drive a Mini...and then any 330 or M and tell me how alike they are. NOT!

I've only driven the S model....it's respectable...but way too underpowered and small. Plus, people laugh at you because it looks like a circus car (send in the clowns).

Is the white top standard..or do folks specify different body/top combos?


User currently offlineJared From United States of America, joined May 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1347 times:

I haven't seen one person laugh yet. Most people always want to check out the inside and stuff.

Clown car? My dad has a Miata and it's way smaller. The MINI is shorter, but that's about it.

Underpowered? Sure, some people want 200hp, but it'll out-corner most 200+hp cars out there.

You can get either white/black/body color roof/mirrors.


User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 years 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1352 times:

Yeah..when you go to the circus or see one on TV...the clowns are always coming out of a Mini--or something very similiar. Here in Texas...they laugh. But then again..it IS Texas.

BTW....200 horsepower is not a lot. I'm sure it will outcorner a lot of cars...but will look ridiculous doing it.

I'm sure it's best feature is that you don't have to look at it while you drive it!
 Smile


User currently offlineJared From United States of America, joined May 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1325 times:

Um.

Have you driven a NEW mini?

I doubt a circus is going to pay even $17k for a base Cooper, just for clowns to get out of.

You must be talking about the old ones, which are much much much smaller than the new ones.

http://www.mg.org/Gallery/Boulders02/Img_0475.jpg

That's a classic mini along with a new one.


User currently offlineJared From United States of America, joined May 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1322 times:

Here are more pics comparing.

http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/Pflashinaz/tortilla_flat_run_2-1-03_line_up_of_minis.jpg

http://www.mini2.com/gallery/personal/pbraun/old_and_new.jpg


User currently offlineAvt007 From Canada, joined Jul 2000, 2132 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (11 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1305 times:

OK, the new Mini is nice, but is has as much in common with the old Mini as a Pontiac GTO versus a Ferrari GTO. My Mini, a bastardized Cooper S wannabe
(as countless Minis were) had a 1275 and all the usual trick things, but this new one is a luxury car compared to the original. I know they have to make it good to sell, but look at the Beetle. The original everyone knows, and the new Beetle is still fairly plain jane.
But the Mini has gone overboard, in a way. The original had a "heater" that was almost non existent, no sound insulation,"carpet" that was like burlap sacks, no radio, no lighter, originally, windows that didn't roll down, bias ply tires-4 1/2X10" drum brakes, a 4 speed that ran outa gears way too early ( 4,000 rpm@60mph), seats that were intentionally designed to be uncomfortable ( I kid you not), the list goes on and on.
Now you can get a 163hp (with 3 different types of transmission) 4 wheel antilock discs, leather, sunroof, 6 airbags, CD,stereo, GPS, cruise, tilt, spin,rinse, wash, probably a goddamn DVD if you want it,etc, etc, ad nauseam.
I'm sorry, but it is a BMW-yuppy-caricature-wannabe of a car that had a certain style and cute attraction.

I usually don't condemn car in such terms, but I was an avid Mini guy in my twenties. Like many others, I knew every nut and bolt of that car, and could tell you at a glance exactly what engine block that was lying on the floor-997cc, 998, 1071, 1275, etc.
It's like seeing your first love all tarted-up with makeup plastered on an inch thick. No thanks.


User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (11 years 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1295 times:

Yes, one of the pool secretaries bought one. We instantly named it the 'Barbie Mobile.'
I figure every former valley girl in LA will be driving one by next year.

And yes, it's an S...and yes, I drove it. I does handle well when you fling it around. My primary issue is the insipid look to it.

But enjoy yours.


User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1767 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (11 years 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1309 times:

I had a 1997 VW bug and I can relate to Avt007's comments regarding the old bug versus the new beetle.............IT'S NOT AN EVOLUTION OF THE PREVIOUS MODEL!!!........but a completely different driving concept.

Greg.........I've heard the term "valley girl" used before but never really understood what the meaning was......care to explain?

Regards
Marcus




Kids!....we are going to the happiest place on earth...TIJUANA! signed: Krusty the Clown
User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1263 times:

Greg, perhaps because Texans don´t care about fuel consumption.
The new Mini seem much better than the orignal one, which was really dangerous. The fuel cap was easily peeled of if you tip over with the old one and then you soak the car with fuel, not good.


User currently offlineAvt007 From Canada, joined Jul 2000, 2132 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (11 years 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1252 times:

You had to work extremely hard to roll an old Mini. I never did it myself, or heard of one, with the exception of my cousin, who had help from a lamp post.  Big grin

User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (11 years 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1246 times:

Sure the hydragas suspension was making the car steady, but if you get into
and collision with another car, it´s likely you roll it and peel of the tank lid.
BTW for reviews of the Mini try out www.carsurvey.org and you find it under BMW...


User currently offlineB747skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (11 years 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1252 times:

To Jared ...
Ordered a BRG with white roof... nostalgia, nostalgia, nostalgia of my first Mini back in 1967... if not I would have taken a dark blue to please my wife...
(s) Skipper


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7932 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (11 years 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1232 times:

By 2003 standards, the only car I know of that is comparable to the original Mini for the US market is the now-discontinued Geo Metro/Suzuki Swift series of cars.

The current Mini is WAY too well-equipped in comparison.

One not-so-great thing about the new Mini--the car has a rock-hard ride in order to get that great handling. NOT a good idea given the poor quality of road surfaces here in the San Francisco Bay Area.


User currently offlineDoug_or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3381 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (11 years 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1231 times:

but it certainly didn't hurt their SFO area sales! damn, i swear every thrid car....


When in doubt, one B pump off
User currently offlineJared From United States of America, joined May 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (11 years 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1209 times:

Skipper,

Nice, that's what I have.

http://www.lagparty.org/~jared/mini/


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