Ybacpa From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1108 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2907 times:
Same road, Same distance, different prices?
Yep... the idea is by putting tolls on only one direction, and making them twice as expensive. The average person will pay the same, as most people make round trips.
By doing this, you can take advantage of the geography to better control traffic (anyone that commutes in the area can stop laughing now). For example, all bridge / tunnel tolls in the area crossing the Hudson (Holland & Lincoln tunnels, George Washington & Tappan Zee bridges) are on the eastbound side. This keeps toll-related traffic from backing up into the city in the evening, thus reducing already extensive traffic problems in the city. In the morning, the tolls reduce the rate traffic spills into the city, again reducing the congestion in the city.
Of course all of this is theory, and probably worked when the system was initially set up, but ask anyone who commutes in now and you'll hear of hour-long backups in the morning on the approaches to the bridges / tunnels, and the same on the city streets leading to the tunnels in the evening. Unfortunately, the reality is tolls as a traffic management device don't work.
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STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 17593 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2879 times:
The Port Authority bridges and tunnels from New Jersey to NYC costs $6, you only pay when going from NJ to NYC, there are no tolls from NYC to NJ.
If they did it the other way they would have traffic jams on each side to collect the $3, instead there's only toll booths on one side that collects $6.
The MTA bridges (Verrazano Narrows) are the same, but more expensive. It costs $7 to go from Staten Island to Brooklyn, but there's no toll from Brooklyn to Staten Island (opposite direction, same bridge).
Mls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3081 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2860 times:
Don't forget either the Lincoln, Holland or GWB in that...
Cars cost more to go through the Lincoln tunnel I believe in an effort to get people to take the bus, and the bus tolls are cheaper since almost every bus goes through the Lincoln Tunnel to the PA.
I couldn't get through the Holland Tunnel when I tried, there were signs that said 8 feet wide was the limit, and I was 8 and a half plus the mirrors. What I was really pissed off about was getting routed (by the posted signs) way the F--K around on the New Jersey Turnpike instead of just up the road to the Lincoln. I hate New Jersey because of this. Those c--ksuckers.
Jimbobjoe From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 677 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2843 times:
STT757: The MTA bridges (Verrazano Narrows) are the same, but more expensive. It costs $7 to go from Staten Island to Brooklyn, but there's no toll from Brooklyn to Staten Island (opposite direction, same bridge).
I paid a toll on the Verrazano from Brooklyn to Staten Island three weeks ago ($7). It's definitely a two-way toll. The Goethals bridge, on the other hand, is a one way toll only from Elizabeth to Staten Island.