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User currently offlineSleekjet From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2046 posts, RR: 21
Posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3435 times:

in passing DOMA (Defense of Marriage Act). Gov. Perry still has to sign it, but that is a foregone conclusion. This act defines a marriage as a union between a man and a woman. It protects the state from the scenario of a couple of gay guys leaving the state to go to, say, Vermont to get a civil union approved, then returning to Texas as "married". Without DOMA, such a couple could conceivably (poor word choice?) receive the rights and benefits usually reserved for a more typical couple consisting of a man and a woman.

Nice effort by Christians to stave off the homosexual lobby and all inroads they wanted to make in rotting our society.




II Cor. 4:17-18
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User currently offlineMls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3076 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3374 times:

On the other hand, I do understand their counter arguement that strait people have already done enough to fuck up the "sacred" institution of marriage.

If half of them fail, are they worth defending?


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3368 times:

I can always count on my state to do the right thing.


"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3354 times:

Big Brother in the Bedroom. That's all it is. A crock of right-wing shit.

User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3354 times:

This is totally unconstitutional and unfair. You so-called "Christians" think discrimination and bigotry are such wonderful things? You ought to read your own good book more often, and leave the rest of us alone to live our lives in peace.

I've signed a petition lobbying Congress NOT to pass such an amendment pushed forward by the hypocritical, hateful Christian right. If there is any good left in this world, it will not pass.

Sleekjet, the only rot in this country is people like you and your mindset.


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3317 times:

I thought that the only way you could "save" marriage was to ban divorces or make it really tough for horny straight people to go around cheating on each other. Therefore:

1. Behead those spouses who cheat (Henry VIII will be cheering in his grave)
2. Make every horny straight couple go through 2 years of marriage counseling before they marry. This includes watching "Leave it to Beaver" and memorizing all the cheezy lines.
3. Make all couples seeking a divorce spend time in a bootcamp run by Woody Allen and Mia Farrow in which both whine non-stop about each other.

Punish those straight folk who are out their defiling the insititution of marriage.
How can you "save" a marriage by banning it for gays? Gay people don't even have the right to marry? Talk about an idiotic misnomer by stupid people who have nothing better to do with their time but to bash gay people who actually want to start families. I've been with my partner for five years now, considerably longer than most straight people have with their spouses. Whether some dumb bigot recognizes it or not, is really not a big worry for me. I've ensured every single legal right for him that I can under current law.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3310 times:

On my Respected User's List you go, Jaysit.

You hit this hypocritical nail right on the head. Of course, it's not about "saving" marriage. It's about making life miserable for people that right-wing nuts get the willies around.  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineDc10guy From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3305 times:

Jaysit, I agree with your post but disagree with what should be done. The only holy thing that I see could be done to save a bad marriage is "stone" the women. I agree with the rightwings on this one. Women are the 2nd biggest cause of problems in the world for men.


Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
User currently offlineAC320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3296 times:

Gays are rotting society now? Yes save us oh mighty Christians from the evil homosexuals  Yeah sure

User currently offlineWe're Nuts From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5722 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3278 times:

Texas has dumb legislators.


Dear moderators: No.
User currently offline777YYC From Canada, joined May 2000, 744 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3277 times:

I often wonder what scares some people so much about same-sex legal unions. Face it, bible thumpers, homosexuals are not trying to take over the world; so there's no need to keep trying to make laws designed to prevent them from doing so. Ten percent have been gay throughout human history, same with animals. End of story.


The Christian right will bring America down...


User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3249 times:

Nice effort by Christians to stave off the homosexual lobby and all inroads they wanted to make in rotting our society.

Nice words. But you're not a Christian. I think you know that.

If you were a Christian you'd realize the hypocrisy in 'defending marraige' in a place where 1 out of 2 straight marraiges end in divorce. So who's 'defending it' from you?

Christ said absolutely nothing about homosexuality. NOTHING. He went off on hypocrisy.

You're many things. Do us a favor and stop pretending one of them is Christian.


User currently offlineMxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 35
Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3245 times:

They forget that the leading cause of divorce is marriage! Who cares who the partners are. Are they devoted to each other and love each other and remain true to each other? If yes, then they are a married couple - gay or straight! Why even have the differentiation of "gay" or "straight"? Why not just plain "married couple"? Grow up, Texas and show us some of that "renown" Texas heart! Give these people a break and maybe society won't be so damn uptight about everything else! (But that's just my opinion - I could be wrong!  Smile)

MxCtrlr  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Freight Dogs Anonymous - O.O.T.S.K.  Smokin cool



DAMN! This SUCKS! I just had to go to the next higher age bracket in my profile! :-(
User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5032 posts, RR: 43
Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3231 times:

In my country, Belgium, gay people are legally allowed to get married. Evern though I am straight, I am damn proud of that fact, and the fact that my country was one of the first in the world (the second, after the Netherlands) to get rid of this discrimination.

User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3229 times:

Sleekjet, I think that the DOMA makes sense.

I've heard it said that for Christians, there's only one sole Biblical reason why you should get married. If you and your spouse can serve God better together than single, then that's the reason why you should be wed.


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8507 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3227 times:

You will also notice, that as a slightly general rule, you don't exactly go around seeing Christians say stuff like A crock of right-wing shit. Although Alpha 1 says he's a Christian...

Anyway, I have nothing against homosexuals. I have no doubt that if Jesus came back today he'd probably be more likely to appear in San Francisco than in a First Baptist Church like my home church. I simply feel that marriage is meant to allow for birth, education, and well-being of children, to protect women who have historically been slightly less capable of fending for themselves than men, and to allow the unique strengths of men and women to be combined into a whole that is greater than the sum of its parts. 2 men who aren't man enough to love a woman...married? Why? Because you think help legitimize being queer? I truly feel sorry for gays, male and female, and I don't wish to make their lives any harder than they already are.

Heavymetal, the synoptic gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) cover only 3 years of Jesus life here on earth (excepting his birth). Even those are not very complete. We have no clue what all He said, but to say that Jesus never said anything about homosexuality is probably not true. Being gay was soundly condemned by the Greeks at the time of the NT, despite what historical revisionists would have you believe. Obviously, however, God didn't feel that it was a pressing enough issue to include it in the Bible.

777YC, no matter how many times gay activists spout the 10% theory doesn't make it true. Even today it's only about 1-2% of the population or so.


User currently offlineHepkat From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 2341 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3214 times:

Perhaps the most ironic thing about this is that in Europe, many countries give gays the legal right to marry or have a civil union, one or two even accord the exact same priviledges, including adoption, but this doesn't seem to have any effect on society at all. Straight people don't feel threatened, you don't see gay men and women walking hand in hand and flirting their new found marital status on the streets (even though they have the legal right to), you don't see anyone complaining, it's as if the right to gay marriage didn't even exist.

Somehow the Europeans managed to get rid of their fears, and the result after legalizing gay marriage was decidedly disappointing, absolutely nothing happened. No social decay, no gay flaunting, men and women are still getting married, children are still being born, life continues as always.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3214 times:

Anyway, I have nothing against homosexuals.

Sure you do, and that's why you support this crock of shit called DOMA. It doesn't protect marriage in ANY WAY. Heterosexuals have done enough to screw up the institution of marriage, but the right-wing nuts, with their usual need to blame someone, blames gays for the problems of wedlock, which, as I stated us a crock of crap. What has ruined marriage is the fact that so many straights get divorced, not because gays want to marry.

to protect women who have historically been slightly less capable of fending for themselves than men..

ROTFL. Yes, and they should walk two step in back of, and to the left of their all-knowing man, right?  Laugh out loud

These laws were concocted by extremists on the right, not to "protect" the institution of marriage, but to further try to keep gays "in their place" by making them feel inferior. That's all it's meant to do.


User currently offlineSchoenorama From Spain, joined Apr 2001, 2440 posts, RR: 25
Reply 18, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3212 times:

Sleekjet:

"Nice effort by Christians to stave off the homosexual lobby and all inroads they wanted to make in rotting our society"

I don't understand how a self-defined Christian can say such a thing about homosexuality. To make things even worse, your profile says you are a teacher. Your religious thoughts about homosexuality are from the Middle Ages. It always supprises me how it is posible Christians in a modern and open country as the US, still maintain the same thoughts and ideas on homosexuality as those common a few centuries ago.

Over here in Europe many countries do give the right to homosexual couples to get married and to have all the rights and obligations two sexes married couples have. There isn't a single problem with it, birth-rates aren't going down and our societies are far from 'rotting'. Sure, many religious groups in Europe don't agree with that either, but none of them would go as far and low as saying they 'rot our society'.



Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!
User currently offlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5032 posts, RR: 43
Reply 19, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3202 times:

Schoenorama,

but none of them would go as far and low as saying they 'rot our society'.

Actually, some would. But here in Europe, they are ignored and disregarded by 98% of the population, and rightfully so. In some parts of the US, it seems they actually help determine the policies, which is frightening indeed.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3199 times:

Your religious thoughts about homosexuality are from the Middle Ages.

Schoe, fundamentalist Christianity, like Fundamentalists Islam or Judiasm, is stright out of the Middle Ages. It's an intolerant, vengeful brand of Christianity that is so out of touch with what Christ was like, that He, I swear, must roll His eyes sometime and wonder about these people.

Jesus said "Do unto others, as you would them do to you." But with these right wing fantatics, it's more like "treat those that you don't like in a way that you yourself would be outraged over."

They aren't Christian, in my view, in the true sense of the word. They hide behind their faith to promote a worldy, political agenda. I have no use for them.


User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3193 times:

I don't see the big riff...who the hell wants to get married....gay or straight, anyway.

User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3181 times:

"I've heard it said that for Christians, there's only one sole Biblical reason why you should get married. If you and your spouse can serve God better together than single, then that's the reason why you should be wed."

Now I've heard it all. So when Baptist Brad and Brittany are doing the happy 69 together they're serving God? So thats why people say "Oh God, oh God, oh God, oh God, oh God" as they're having an orgasm ! Thats their way of serving the Lord - together.

But I guess if they're not serving the Lord, then all those Christians who marry because they think their potential spouse is hotter than a George Forman Grill should be stripped of their marital rights. And as far as heathens and pagans and atheists are concerned, well, no marriage for them either.

Now that would truly "save" marriage. Or at least your warped definition of it.


User currently offlineMbmbos From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3175 times:

To quote Mae West: "Marriage is an institution and I don't want to live in an institution."

Sometimes I wonder what all the controversy is about. Is it about the word "marriage"? Is it the notion that gays are mocking straights by having ceremonies?

Sleekjet, you mention gays obtaining "rights and benefits" that you don't think they should have. What, specifically, do you mean by that?

Are we talking about health care? Tax breaks? Power of attorney? Health proxy? Inheritance rights?

Sleekjet, are you aware that if I found out that my partner had been hit by a car and was dying in I.C.U., that I would not be able to see him without having power of attorney documentation on my person?

My partner and I have paid thousands of dollars to lawyers to establish power of attorney documents, health care proxies, wills, trusts, etc. to protect us from a legal system that not only ignores our status, but would financially wipe out the surviving partner should one of us die.

You know, my partner and I earn healthy incomes and we pay lots of taxes. Taxes that in part go to programs that will never benefit us personally - schools, child welfare programs, tax benefits to married couples.

Is it possible for us to look at this issue in a reasonable and fair way?


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3174 times:

MD90, most people don't get married to "Serve God". I got married because I happen to love the woman I got married to. I happen to think she's a great mother of our children, and I greatly enjoy our sex life.

If I serve God, it's not because I got married. It's because I live a decent and honest existence. That's the best way for me to serve God-by being that way. My marriage was consecrated on an Alter before God, but I don't see where it's serving God. And even if it does, who the hell are you, or Rick Santorum, or the Texas Legislature, or anyone else, to tell ANYONE what they can or cannot do in the privacy of their lives.

I imagine the next "logical" step by these Holy Rollers is to lock up any Gay people who dare say they're married, and who dare to have sex together. Far fetched? With these nuts running around? Don't laugh.


25 Aviatsiya : Welcome to America. Land of the free.....but only if you happen to be a white heterosexual Christian male between the ages of 18-65. I really would ex
26 Hepkat : Aviatsiya, indeed. I'm afraid that more and more I'm beginning to see just how incredibly intolerant American society is, to our unending shame. Of al
27 Jaysit : "Sleekjet, are you aware that if I found out that my partner had been hit by a car and was dying in I.C.U., that I would not be able to see him withou
28 TWFirst : 1) I'd like Sleekjet or anyone like him (unfortunately there are others) to articulate just ONE shred of logic that would convincingly illustrate how
29 Yyz717 : I'm afraid that more and more I'm beginning to see just how incredibly intolerant American society is, to our unending shame. I'm not sure this is tru
30 Jaysit : "I'm not sure this is true. I'm always amazed how liberal, tolerant & diverse much of the US is." I agree. Of course, fringe elements always exist at
31 777236ER : Isn't religion great? Everyone has their own view of it!
32 Hepkat : I'm not sure this is true. I'm always amazed how liberal, tolerant & diverse much of the US is. The problem is that special interest groups (religious
33 Heavymetal : I have no doubt that if Jesus came back today he'd probably be more likely to appear in San Francisco than in a First Baptist Church like my home chur
34 Go Canada! : the christain right is going to have same explaining to do on judgement day with the way some of them carry on
35 PHX-LJU : Yyz717 wrote: "I'm not sure this is true. I'm always amazed how liberal, tolerant & diverse much of the US is. The problem is that special interest gr
36 Seb146 : I and other gays in this country have though about marrying the opposite sex just to get benefits. No love. Just the piece of paper that says we can l
37 MD-90 : Jaysit, marriage is more than sex. Alpha 1, I said it's the only Biblical reason, not the only personal reason. Psalm 133:1 How good and pleasant it i
38 Alpha 1 : MD90, you do not HAVE A CLUE what God approves of-I don't care what the Bible says. To me, the Bible is a guide. To you, it is Literal. Take ANYTHING
39 AC320 : I have G-d on my speed-dial he says he's cool with it.
40 MD-90 : And I also don't think you're really saved, Alpha 1, but I don't go around spouting that off, now do I? You say too many mean things to too many peopl
41 Alpha 1 : And yes, it is literal. It's called the Word of God. What part of that do you not understand? That is your OPINION, that is not FACT. I do not believe
42 We're Nuts : MD-90, have you ever read "Inherit the Wind"? And by the way, switch around a few words in your post and it could have come straight from Osama.
43 Post contains images Ilyushin96M : OK, so which version of the bible do Christians take literally? When I was in college at Baylor University (which is Southern Baptist-affiliated), it
44 MD-90 : One of my very best friends is a freshman at Baylor right now. She would agree with you about the hypocrisy. And the Bible versions thing is stupid in
45 Sabena 690 : It is disgusting how some people can be sooooooo narrow minded. Am I straight? Yes. Am I homo? No. Am I glad that Belgium was one of the first countri
46 MD-90 : And We're Nuts, no I haven't. I've never heard of that book/play.
47 Gc : First of all, once again, "Christian" has become a dirty word. Can we please look past Christianity and it's worst examples and have a bit of common s
48 Post contains images Gc : Just to follow on, watch the People's Front of Judea colliseum scene in "The Life of Brian" where they are having a discussion on a man's right to hav
49 Gc : Sorry, couldn't resist. here's the script from the scene if you don't have the DVD: [Elsewhere on the stands, sit the terrorist organisation the PFJ.
50 Daedaeg : The fact is the vast majority of Americans believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman..not an opinion...a fact. So what is so shocking
51 L-188 : Now I am trying to remember. Where they the people's front of Judea or the Judean peoples front?
52 Mbmbos : The fact is the vast majority of Americans believe that marriage should be between a man and a woman..not an opinion...a fact." Actually, it's still o
53 Heavymetal : DOMA is reflecting what most americans feel, protecting the sanctity of marriage. Once again, I ask.....what sanctity? That's the fine Doctor Laura an
54 Jaysit : "Jaysit, marriage is more than sex." I know. I've been with the same person for five years. I don't need lectures from cafetaria Christians on what co
55 Pilot1113 : If you don't like the laws in Texas, there's 49 other states that could probably suit your needs. That's what's great about our system of government.
56 Post contains images Ilyushin96M : Oh, yeah, that's the answer, Neil. If you don't like something in the state you live in, move. You would have everyone who doesn't like something relo
57 Heavymetal : You know, Neil, you're right. And in a way, those who live in less Talibanesque places ought to in a way be grateful for the fine bigots of Texas. Bec
58 Turbolet : What tolerance indeed! I'm sure many of you can understand why I so often wish I were straight. I'm gay, so what does that imply? No way I can legally
59 Post contains images Gc : "I'm young. I'm gay. And eventually, I want to settle with someone with whom I'll have a strong, reciprocal bond of love. And I'd also like to share s
60 MD-90 : Oh please. God wired their chemistry? God does not make anyone gay.
61 Heavymetal : God does not make anyone gay. That's not the message I got. But to each his own. As long as you don't attempt to force that opinion on me legally, we'
62 Ilyushin96M : MD-90: "Oh please. God wired their chemistry? God does not make anyone gay." So, when did God tell you this? What a presumptuous, uninformed thing to
63 Hepkat : God does not make anyone gay. Well just when I thought I'd heard it all. MD-90, what a presumptious statement you've made! As Illyushin96M has pointed
64 Pilot1113 : >>Oh, yeah, that's the answer, Neil. If you don't like something in the state you live in, move.
65 Jaysit : Its not a question of "moving" because you dont like the State you're in. We are a UNION of States, not just a rag tag group of States like the politi
66 Turbolet : God does not make anyone gay. You just summed up why I can't believe in the Christian idea of God. He created us all, and chose the way we should be.
67 777236ER : MD-90 once again sums up why religion deserves to be confined to the past. He says "God doesn't make anyone gay" when he MEANT to say "In my opinion,
68 MD-90 : I think homosexuality is a worldly perversion, and it's unfortunate that the people who are gay feel that way. Unfortunately, it's probably going to g
69 Hepkat : ...and boys growing up often don't have a father, and even if they do the man of the house may not be doing his job. I'm not a girl, so I can't really
70 Jaysit : "I think homosexuality is a worldly perversion, and it's unfortunate that the people who are gay feel that way. Unfortunately, it's probably going to
71 Ilyushin96M : MD-90, thanks once again for making a statement that shows how catastrophically and irreversibly ignorant you are. I am constantly amazed how the igno
72 Ual747 : MD-90, Do a search for a thread I did called, "A Letter To My Therapist" a few months ago. Read it. BTW, has anyone noticed that sleekjet has failed t
73 Hartsfieldboy : MD-90: Being gay or straight doesn't matter. So why do you keep going on about how being a homo is wrong!!?? You say being gay doesn't matter, yet it
74 Hepkat : I'm straight, but I 100% believe in the philosophy that as long as someone doesn't deny another person their rights, they can do whatever they want. W
75 B757300 : Anyone can go to Heaven, even if you are gay. You just have to accept Jesus' gift. Being gay or straight doesn't matter. Sorry MD-90 but on that I hav
76 Johnboy : Fundie Xtians....yucko! Thank God (haha, a pun!), they spout off so much, so that when The Day comes, we'll all know exactly where they are........(no
77 Ilyushin96M : Congrats, B757300. You get to be in the same disgusting, hypocritical un-Christian category as MD-90. You win the big prize. And I'm sure there's no p
78 Jaysit : "Corinthians 6:9-10 (KJV) "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the immoral, nor idol
79 MD-90 : Ual747, yes I read your letter. B757300, yes I am quite aware of that. And finally, I believe that gay men are still boys who haven't grown up yet and
80 Ilyushin96M : MD-90, you could serve God and Jesus by resisting the temptation to post more of your fundie religious crap. Hell, that would serve all of us, as well
81 Post contains images B757300 : So using Viagra so a husband and wife can enjoy a perfectly normal part of marriage makes one a pervert? Please. Sex is supposed to be something for a
82 MD-90 : Ilyushin, someone's getting a little defensive, eh?
83 Jaysit : "So using Viagra so a husband and wife can enjoy a perfectly normal part of marriage makes one a pervert? " No, and neither does reading the word sati
84 MD-90 : And more venom from Jaysit. What else is new?
85 Ilyushin96M : Please continue on your self-righteous trip, MD-90. I'm sure your god is watching and keeping tabs.
86 Post contains images Superfly : [spoken with a strong Texas accent] .......and them Gawd damn liberals from up north keep tryin' to tell us the arth (earth) is round. The arth is fla
87 MD-90 : The Creator and Maker of everything is always watching.
88 Jaysit : More garbage from MD-90 of the "think after you type" variety. More selectively enforced religious edicts culled from one interpretation of the Bible.
89 Heavymetal : The Creator and Maker of everything is always watching. The 'Creator & Maker of everything' huh? HIT REWIND BUTTON BACK TO REPLY 60 God does not make
90 We're Nuts : And We're Nuts, no I haven't. I've never heard of that book/play. Fair enough, but I urge you to look it up sometime. It's quite famous, and I think y
91 777236ER : This has no correlation whatsoever to Islamic hijackers who think there'll be 77 virgins or whatever awaiting them in their heaven if they blow up inf
92 Turbolet : If one takes it dogmatically enough, as the Maltese Church preaches, a husband and wife are not sinning when they have sex only to produce offspring.
93 Post contains images Superfly : The only purpose of marrage is to shut up the girlfreind and family from asking; "when are youy two going to get married?" It's a very annoying and na
94 Post contains images Superfly : Men after marrage.
95 Gc : "If one takes it dogmatically enough, as the Maltese Church preaches, a husband and wife are not sinning when they have sex only to produce offspring.
96 Covert : As a muslim, the first reason you should marry is to procreate. You can really worship God by bringing forth children that will also worship Him. I do
97 An-225 : Well, Covert and GC, I think gay people will most likely disagree with you. And also, isn't love the first and foremost reason for marriage, at least
98 We're Nuts : And what if this "god" doe not exist?
99 MD-90 : That's a good one, Heavy. God made everything. Every person, every planet, every star, every galaxy, every universe. But what I meant when I said that
100 We're Nuts : But what if there is no god?? Does your argument fall to pieces?
101 MD-90 : If God didn't exist then everything would be all peachy keen as far as homosexuality is concerned. I am absolutely convinced beyond a shadow of any do
102 Post contains images Superfly : God, Jesus, Bible my a$$! Couples get married to shut up there mothers, aunts and girlfriends from nagging men from that annoying question; "when are
103 Mbmbos : Since it's up to me, let me say that I just don't buy it - your brand of Christianity. One that imposes severe punishments as a solution to human prob
104 We're Nuts : Wait, wait, wait, so your entire argument hinges not only on the existence of a supreme being, but the assumption that he thinks like you? Sounds pret
105 Heavymetal : The Bible takes the difficult position that all sex outside of marriage is wrong. Amen! So let gays marry! because we have free choice and if you want
106 Hartsfieldboy : But to me, Faith is the ability to live with Doubt. Faith without Doubt to me is merely Obedience, and that wasn't Christ's message. Heavymetal, that'
107 Turbolet : I would say that a person would have more faith if they questioned everything they believed in. Good way of putting it. One should always think about
108 MD-90 : I now believe without a doubt, but that hasn't always been the case. I grew up in a Methodist church, but I didn't become a Christian and really under
109 Heavymetal : Exactly. I'm not 'saved'. My Christian belief is I never was "un-saved". To quote Dennis Miller, pardon me for getting it right the first time. (Presu
110 Post contains images We're Nuts : So can anyone pop in with scientific, empirical data on why two gays should not make love? Or be married? Because my god says that not only is he cool
111 Post contains images Heavymetal : Nutsy... The world is replete with Bible-quoting sh*tstains, who can recite chapter and verse and yet are no closer to understanding the meaning of Go
112 Sleekjet : Sure, let's let all the homos continue to do their thing in private (that's all that matters, right?) and let's not worry at all about the further spr
113 Heavymetal : Heavymetal, that's an interesting point, can you explain that more in detail? Hartsfield... Yeah, man, I think you nailed it in so many words. I don't
114 Ilyushin96M : Sleekjet, I hope you're not saying you think AIDS is a gay disease. Because if you do, you really need to pull your head out of your rectum. Learn the
115 Post contains images 777YYC : Let me guess... you think AIDS is God's way of punishing gays? The fact that you have to resort to AIDS, which affects homosexuals and heterosexuals i
116 Heavymetal : Sure, let's let all the homos continue to do their thing in private (that's all that matters, right?) and let's not worry at all about the further spr
117 Post contains images We're Nuts : Sure, let's let all the homos continue to do their thing in private (that's all that matters, right?) and let's not worry at all about the further spr
118 MD-90 : 20 years ago when 'Christians' like you were cheering on the staggering butcher's block of dead 'homos', more proof, you thought, that your glorious '
119 Post contains images Superfly : MD-90: .......since guys like to have sex more often than your typical woman, and it's a lot easier for a gay guy to shack up with another guy than it
120 MD-90 : So I've heard. Personally, I'd rather meet them at youth.
121 Ilyushin96M : MD-90, you obviously have never heard of Fred Phelps. The man is probably the best example of a "Christian" hate-monger, sending his followers to pick
122 MD-90 : Fred Phelps is a nut who abuses Christianity to further his own homophobic goals. Despite what he says, he is not genuinely a Christian in any way, sh
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