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User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1436 times:

Psychopathology Of Contemporary American Civilization

By Ernest Partridge, The Crisis Papers
April 24, 2003

Can an entire country go mad?

Of course it can!

And history provides many examples: the Salem Colony during the witch trials (and its 20th century counterpart, the McCarthy mania), Nazi Germany, Cambodia under Pol Pot, and arguably the United States under George Bush.

Worse yet, most people living at a time of national derangement, perceive that condition as perfectly normal, and even “moral.” And pity the poor soul who sees things differently: the “one-eyed person in the land of the blind.”

If we are even to suggest that the American public has, by and large, gone bonkers, we should begin with a definition of “sanity” and, by implication, of “insanity.”

Perhaps Sigmund Freud said it best: a sane person is someone with an operating “reality principle” – someone who checks his beliefs against the readily-available promptings of “the real world.”

Of course, each and every one of us falls short of complete congruence with “reality” – it’s the price we pay for our finitude, our mortality.

“Sanity” does not mean perfection; it merely means sufficient commerce with the real world to allow us to survive both day-by-day and in the long term – thus “sane” individuals obey traffic laws, learn from their mistakes and practical experience and, in the case of moral sanity, they recognize in others their worth and their capacity for joy and suffering. Furthermore, sanity implies a capacity to critically evaluate one’s experience, to distinguish fact from fiction, and to further adapt to the real world through that experience and knowledge.

Insanity, by implication, suggests a kind of “habitation” in an unreal, made-up world. The megalomaniac who believes he is Napoleon, to put it bluntly, is not Napoleon. The schizophrenic hears voices that nobody in fact utters. The paranoid is in constant fear of non-existent threats. The psychopath can not recognize the human worth and the capacity for pleasure and pain in others, and so on.

A deranged society is often, but surely not always, made so by a deranged leadership. This is especially likely when that leadership has effective control of the media. Then the leaders possess the means to convey their delusions to much of the public at large.


Now I don’t wish to claim that one George Bush has lost all his marbles, though I suspect that he may be “a few bulbs short of a full marquee” (Garrison Keilor). George Bush’s “world” may, to a disturbing degree, be out of sync with the real world.

That’s a startling charge to level at “our leader” and, by extension, at our compatriots. So let’s look at the evidence:


“National Solipsism.”

“Solipsism” is the philosopher’s term for the assertion that “all that exists is my mind and its ideas.” It is epitomized by the opening sentence in one of Arthur Schopenhauer’s books: “the world is my idea.” Of course, no sane person believes this (including Schopenhauer).. However, the challenge of “escaping solipsism” leads to the core issues of epistemology: how do we demonstrate the existence of other minds and of an independent “outside” physical world. (My late friend, the novelist Edward Abbey, had an ingenious solution: “if someone tells you he is a solipsist, throw a rock at his head. If he ducks, he is a liar.”)

Now, of course, Bush and his gang are not solipsists, and the term, “national solipsism” is meant figuratively. (Literally, the term is self-contradictory – “national” entails a plurality of minds).

In this figurative (and I suspect original) sense, “national solipsism” is a belief, still better an “attitude,” that the world beyond our borders is just what I want it to be and believe it to be, and nothing more. To Bush and his neo-con “handlers,” ours is an uncomplicated world free of unintended consequences. This world need not be studied in order to be understood – the opinions of “experts” are of no interest. Rather, the state of the world is best apprehended by “gut feeling.” So we are free to violate a batch of treaties, to defy the United Nations, and to invade an unthreatening country. And what will the excluded “community of nations” think of this behavior? How will the Arabic and Islamic nations react? Can they retaliate in any troublesome way? We don’t know and we don’t care.. Anyhow, we can always bribe or bully our way through, as we did when we collected the “coalition of the willing.”. In brief, in the world of the “national solipsists,” our nation is the sole actor; all other nations are completely passive.

Case in point: Syria. When asked “what is the message of the Iraqi attack” to other countries in the region, Richard Perle casually said: “you’re next!” To Perle and others of like mind, the governments of Syria, Iran, North Korea, or wherever, upon hearing this and contemplating the fate of Iraq and its leader Saddam, will simply passively await their fate in fear and dread, making no alliances or other preparations that might surprise us. Instead, they will wait helplessly, like condemned prisoners in their cells, awaiting the sentence of the court.

And that kind of an assumption is just plain crazy.

In point of rational fact, the remark “You’re next!” must surely provoke strategic planning in Syria, etc., and for that matter in numerous nations throughout the world. Similarly, reactive strategic planning is the certain response abroad to the Bush regime’s flagrant violation of treaties, and its disregard of international law and institutions. We are not the only nation on earth with “national interests” to attend to, although the neo-cons behave as if this were so..

Suppose one were to directly confront Perle, or Wolfowitz or Rumsfeld with the question, “Do you really believe that other countries will stand idly and passively by as they contemplate the fate of Iraq, as they read the text of ‘Project for a New American Century,’ and as they hear that taunting remark, ‘you’re next’?” Surely they would reply, quite truthfully, that they don’t really believe in the complete passivity of nations abroad. But the essential point is that they act as if they believed this! Provocative remarks (‘you’re next!”), violations of treaties, habitual lying, unprovoked attacks upon harmless and disarmed countries – all this is done by the Bush team as if they firmly believed that the U.S. government and its military can do whatever it damned pleases, without fear of “surprises” and retaliation from other regimes and non-governmental organizations such as al Qaeda.

In short, their beliefs in rational reflective moments are fundamentally disconnected from their actions and their policies. And that is clinically insane behavior. Moreover, to the degree that this disconnection between certifiable knowledge (“justified-true-belief”) and operative foreign policy doctrine infects the general public, via the “vector” of a compliant media, that public “catches” a bad case of the crazies from its government.

Sooner or later, the Bushistas and the American public will find out, to their astonishment and chagrin, that “the world” beyond will not tolerate this behavior much longer, and moreover, that the community of nations, comprising the “other” 95% of the world’s population, is quite capable of devastating, albeit non-military, retaliation.


Science be damned -- “the world is my idea.”

Solipsism, or “subjectivism gone mad,” is reflected in Bush’s attitude toward science, and in the consequent policies of his administration. According to the Bushevik subjective metaphysic, the physical world is also just what we want it to be, scientific expertise and proof be damned. And so, when the threat of global warming is affirmed by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate change, consisting of 2000 of the leading atmospheric scientists of the world, and when the IPCC findings are confirmed by the National Academy of Sciences, the Bush regime responds by “shooting the messenger” – by arranging the firing of the IPCC Chairman, Thomas Watson. Furthermore, the Bush EPA then removes a section on climate change from its annual report. Similarly, Bush energy policy is apparently based on the belief that petroleum reserves are infinite – contrary to scientific information and economic statistics. . “We don’t want to believe what the scientists tell us, so it ain’t so.”

Economics is not a “hard science” – to say the least of it. Nonetheless, there are a few compelling economic principles that are ignored at the peril of society. One is that huge deficits far into the future, with no indication of reversal, leads inexorably to fiscal collapse. Another principle is that the way to “stimulate” an economy is to direct funds to those who will spend and/or invest in the near future (that’s most of us), and not to those who will send these funds to offshore banks or to set up low-wage industries abroad (i.e., to the fortunate top 2%). But never mind all that. George Bush has “a promise to keep” – to his political contributors. And, at least in this case, he keeps his promises.

Another bit of economic lunacy: “Compulsive behavior” – persisting in an activity that has clearly been shown to be useless or even counter-productive – is a compelling indicator of some loose screws in the cognitive clockwork. In extreme cases, it calls for strait-jackets and padded cells. Now consider “supply-side,” “trickle-down” economic policies (i.e., “reverse Robin-Hoodism" – throwing money at the rich), which proved to be a colossal failure during the Reagan and Bush-I administrations. When Bill Clinton dumped “supply side,” two conservative Texas Professors of Economics, (and Senator and Congressman respectively) Dr. Phil Gramm and Dr. Richard Armey, predicted economic disaster. Instead, there followed eight years of unprecedented grown and prosperity. But never mind that, with Bush the Sequel we get supply side, the sequel. Experience refutes supply-side economics, and eight Nobel Laureate economists have denounced it. But so what?. George Bush’s “gut” says otherwise, therefore “supply side” theory is true.


Psychopathology: “Who cares what you think?”

Psychopathy – the failure to recognize, much less to empathize with, the personal human dignity, rights, and feelings of others, is displayed in the Bush administration de-funding of Medicare, Social Security, veterans’ benefits, and furthermore, in the callous disregard of the lives and safety of the unfortunate Iraqis beneath the U.S. military’s cruise-missiles, shells, and bombs. Sure enough, the Bush word-smiths recognize compassion as a politically potent concept – hence “Compassionate Conservatism.” But the astute citizen will (untypically) follow Richard Nixon’s advice: “don’t pay attention to what [they] say, pay attention to what [they] do.”


“The Truth is Out There.”

The Bush administration has an uncanny ability to concoct lies and, when “found out,” to “move on” unscathed. This accomplishment stands as a tribute to their mastery of the black arts of public relations and propaganda.

Consider the “justifications” for the attack on Iraq – in particular, those presented by Colin Powell to the UN Security Council. (a) Saddam Hussein is producing weapons of mass destruction (WMDs), and (b) Saddam Hussein is in close cahoots with al Qaeda terrorists. As it turns out, the case for WMDs was based on a collapsing structure of plagiarized term papers, forged documents, rumors and false reports, even as the UN inspectors were failing to find any independent evidence of WMDs. And even the CIA reported that there was no evidence linking Saddam with al Qaeda. Furthermore, it was a plain verifiable fact that none of the 9/11 hijackers were Iraqi. And yet, so effective is the Bush propaganda machine, that a majority of the American public now believes that Saddam had WMDs “at the ready,” and that Saddam was involved in the 9/11 attacks. Significantly, the corporate media has taken no great pains to disabuse the public of these flat-out misconceptions.

In other words, the American public’s “reality principle” was, in these cases, deliberately and effectively sabotaged, resulting in a case of mass-derangement.

And yet, “the truth is out there.” The facts about Saddam, WMDs, al Qaeda, 9/11 are not secret, nor are the opinions of atmospheric scientists, petroleum geologists. The opinions of world-renowned economists are on the record, and if that doesn’t suffice, the economic statistics – unemployment, consumer confidence, inventories, stock prices, etc. – are published for all to see.

Yet, to the neo-conservative and fundamentalist dogmatists in the Bush administration, none of this matters. “Screw reality, we have our doctrine – and we have the interests of our ‘sponsors’ to tend to.”

Likewise, although the facts are out there in front of the eyes of the public, yet they refuse to see. Meanwhile, the subservient corporate media have instituted a successful campaign of “mass distraction,” while the Congress and the Courts are no help, since they no longer work for “We the People.”

Corruption and despotism, like cockroaches, scurry for cover when the light is cast upon them. Thus the most dependable route out of this pit that we the people find ourselves in, is the route prescribed by Thomas Jefferson and fellow founders of our republic: a free and diverse media, a vigorous and well-funded system of education, and the resulting open discussion of competing ideas. Unfortunately, now that the corporate media at home have abandoned us, we must now look to the foreign press and the internet for our news and information.

So wake up, America. Reality calls!

And reality won't budge an inch to accommodate our fantasies.

---------------------

Thankfully, there are plenty of people in the US who can see what Bush and his cronies are up to. I, for one, don't need a reality check to see this. Who can say the same?

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User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1408 times:

And history provides many examples: the Salem Colony during the witch trials (and its 20th century counterpart, the McCarthy mania), Nazi Germany, Cambodia under Pol Pot, and arguably the United States under George Bush.

Yeah, someone who compares George W. Bush with Pol Pot, Adolf Hitler, and the town of Salem (Salem wasnt a colony...idiot) should really be trusted with analysis. Great observations...I mean trivializing the deaths of the Jews, Cambodians....its absolutely disgusting.



America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1405 times:

(Salem wasnt a colony...idiot)

I'd be asking who's the idiot. Hell, I am not a Yank, and even I have heard of the Salem Colony.


User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1397 times:

Disgusting, Jcs? Hardly. The man has quite a few valid points, I think. It's just that people with Bushite Republican blinders on can't see them. More's the pity. Ignorance is bliss.

User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1381 times:

I was almost going to respond to JC, then I realize I desperately value the 6.4 seconds it would take to outwit him.

Thanks for the article, 96. It's a rather in depth opinion requiring about a hundred times more brainpower needed than scoffing at Simon on American Idol, which is why it's an opinion soaring in the ether above the typical American radar screen right now. But appreciated in these quarters none the less.

I'm becoming more and more understanding of why the "Bushistas"...actually I like Bushies the best....are so contemptuous of Hollywood.......the drama from the Left Coast is clearly in direct competition with the scripted drama from the right. I mean look at the hopelessly staged photo op today....lifted right out of the pens of some of the Movie's finer gung ho-ists.

"The bigger the lie the more people will believe it".....Hitler only had it half right. Karl Rove has perfected it to "The bigger the hype, the more people will forget and forgive the lie."

I fear at some point very soon in the United States a return to balance in something other than a violent, internal disaster will not be possible. One of two things will happen.....the absolute power of the right will keep going to the right, and those it considers its' 'enemies' will no longer have legal or moral recourse to make their opinions known in civil fashion. Thus, in the tradition of the powerless throughout the ages, the law will become meaningless. What is civil discourse now will become terrible chaos.
Or....against a successful effort to return moderation to it's place in the American family structure, the right will be unwilling to cede the power they have achieved, and, again, chaos reigns. A few years ago, the Right upset the equillibrium with tales of a blowjob. If such sordid trite doesn't exist, the next step is more extreme measures. The next Democratic President will not be safe from these people.

This is an idealogy that will continue to grow cancerous on the American body. Time will tell if it is allowed to kill its' host.


User currently offlineAviatsiya From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1371 times:

I was almost going to respond to JC, then I realize I desperately value the 6.4 seconds it would take to outwit him.

It takes you that long? Surely not?!? Seems your standards are slipping somewhat there matie.


User currently offlineYak42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 800 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1361 times:

Yes I think there needs to be a real change in the USA, and I think that is more likely to happen if the Republicans get in again because they are running things in a very unsustainable way. If the Democrats got back in, they would allow things to go on festering slowly for a longer time. At least the Republicans are speeding up the process.

User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8502 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1351 times:

Interesting? Yeah, I'd say that the author of this article is amusingly deranged.

Not to mention incredibly, horribly biased.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1344 times:

Yes, MD90, I mean, how DARE anyone even suggest Bush and his cohorts are maniacs, right? How DARE anyone critisize His Holiness.

(dripping with sarcasm)


User currently offlineIlyushin96M From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 2609 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1343 times:

Yeah, Yak42, I agree with you. If we want this country to continue on its downward trends, it's best to have the Extinctionists in power for another term. Big grin

However...I'm thinking NOT. It's going to take enough time to repair the damage Bush & Co. have already done to our freedoms, our economy, our environment, our relations with the rest of the world. That's going to take a pretty powerful new president with a crack team of people in his administration at least one term in office, if not two.


User currently offlineScootertrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 569 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1339 times:

Interesting entertainment, that article.

Very long on insults and innuendo. Very short on substantive fact. Although it is the type of writing calculated to make those on the political left and those who hold vehement anti-American beliefs mess your underoos, there is no new enlightening facts to debate here.

'Nuff said.


User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1327 times:

My favorite quote during the Iraq war...

"We need a regime change at home."


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1330 times:

You know I was of the understanding that most of Freuds theories about human behavior have ben discreditied.

Did the author not want to have sex with his mother or what?



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8502 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1315 times:

Yes, Alpha1, I mean, how DARE anyone even suggest Alpha 1 and his cohorts are maniacs, right? How DARE anyone critisize His Holiness.

(dripping with sarcasm)





...whatever...


User currently offlineDaedaeg From United States of America, joined Feb 2003, 657 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1281 times:

so basically because america is not run by lefty looseys therefore we must be crazy? that makes a whole lot of damn sense


Everyday you're alive is a good day.
User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8045 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1276 times:

I think the article is very interesting. As it says, 'So we are free to violate a batch of treaties, to defy the United Nations, and to invade an unthreatening country' - these indeed are symptoms of a country gone mad.

Maybe Pol Pot and Hitler killed more people, but Bush & Co have at least another year to go, and more importantly, a body count isn't the only way of measuring a nation's path off the highway of sanity. What about loss of personal freedom, jobs, wealth, international respect etc? These are all things America had more than any other country, and now it's plummeting out of control on all fronts.

And faking offence at (valid) comparisons to Cambodia or Germany, or making jokes about the author fancying his mother do nothing to deny the validity of the points made.

And as Yak42 said, the Democrats aren't the answer.



fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineJamesag96 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2095 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1255 times:

Valid comparisons to Cambodia or Germany? My God some of you are so lost in your own personal American Bigotry.

We as a nation aren't perfect, and nor do we advertise as such...but to compare our Government and its people to such tyrannical examples is folly.

J



Why Kate, You're not wearing a bustle. How lewd.
User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8045 posts, RR: 54
Reply 17, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1228 times:

I repeat: "...faking offence at comparisons to Cambodia or Germany, or making jokes about the author fancying his mother do nothing to deny the validity of the points made." Yet that is Jamesag96's response. Oh, and, "We as a nation aren't perfect, and nor do we advertise as such." Yes you do.



fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineJamesag96 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2095 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1228 times:

I was indeed referring to you directly Mr. Jet with my comments on the comparison. It was you that indicated that they were valid with:

...And faking offence at (VALID) comparisons to Cambodia or Germany...

That is ridiculous, and results from someone that is so wrapped up in their own hatred that they are unable to make a clear headed observation, additionally that applies to the comment that we advertise perfection.

We are a proud people Sir, but we are also quite aware of our faults.

Respectfully,
J



Why Kate, You're not wearing a bustle. How lewd.
User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8502 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1197 times:

Pol Pot was an insane murderer who starved his own people and killed what, 3.5 million people? He was living proof that Communism is evil, despite what Hollywood always wanted us to believe.

How you could ever compare the US to Cambodia I cannot understand.


User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1192 times:

He was living proof that Communism is evil, despite what Hollywood always wanted us to believe.


(eyelids fluttering) IIIIIIII'm sawree, was that THE Hollywood that reminded the world about Pol Pot's brutality (almost overlooked in the 'Southeast Asia-burnout' that infected popular culture after the US withdrawal from Vietnam) with the award winning The Killing Fields?

That Hollywood, right?

Give the Party Doctrine a rest, young'n.


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1194 times:

I see tremendous similarities between what the US is doing now and what history has taught me that Nazi Germany did in the 1930s.

Guantanamo Bay is essentially a concentration camp for so-called undesirables that the state wishes to be held without due process.

The NSEERS "special registration" is essentially a means of identifying and registering undesirable members of society based on their ethnicity and religious affiliation.

The contrived excuses to go to war in Iraq ring very similar to Hitler's "justification" for his European conquests.

Innocent civilians may not have been executed without trial quite yet in the United States, but the Patriot Act allows for the provision of military tribunals sitting in judgement over civilians with the power to sentence them to death.

When innocent parties are subject to interrogations where physical abuse and torture are used as tools to coerce "confessions" you must admit that the similarities with the Nazi Gestapo are far too many to ignore.

Again, I apologize if you are offended by my views but I fear that history may record George W. Bush as having had as much of a negative impact on the world order as many other leaders who are universally reviled today.



User currently offlineJamesag96 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2095 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1170 times:

Wow B747...Brilliant conclusions.

J



Why Kate, You're not wearing a bustle. How lewd.
User currently offlineKAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1958 posts, RR: 33
Reply 23, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1167 times:

What would you suggest B747-437B? Let's sit back and wait for more terrorist attacks to kill us and destroy our economy? Something had to be done, and so far whatever we're doing appears to be working.

User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1149 times:

Something had to be done, and so far whatever we're doing appears to be working.

(Chuckle) Thanks for summing up perfectly what's WRONG.

It's the pervasive "So Far..!" attitude that's keeping us in mortal peril.

When 'So Far' ends in the violence of the next 'terror event' , what then?

Please tell me we'll do it differently, under a different leader with better ideas and fewer Top Gun fetishes.


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 25, posted (11 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1144 times:

What would you suggest B747-437B? Let's sit back and wait for more terrorist attacks to kill us and destroy our economy? Something had to be done, and so far whatever we're doing appears to be working.

Indeed, Kauspilot, something must be done. America chooses to do it this way:
look for terrorists, bomb countries, ... and what is the result? More extremism.

You can also do it this way: ask yourself: why do they do this to us.

The past proved that extremism is caused by a population, which feels that they miss the train. With the globalisation, we have the subjective feeling that everything goes so fast, and a lot of people in the Middle East have the feeling that they are excluded of this. THIS is how terror starts. History teaches me that this terror is not new, but already happened at the end of the 18th century. This terror stayed under the right wing regimes we had (right wing regimes are conservatif), and instead of looking why this happened and do something about it, they reacted like Bush does now: trying to stop it by repression, sanctions, bombings, ...

Luckily, a more left minded (so progressive) regime replaced this right wing nuts, and what did they: make that those powers are not subversive. They gave the liberals a place in this world. Conclusion: it stopped.

If you know something about history (which you clearly don't do), you can link the present to the past. And all things we see now are not new, including terror. Like they say: 'history repeats itself'. And only with looking to the past, you know which is the correct solution in the present.

/Frederic


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