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The Gibraltar Straight Bridge  
User currently offlineSoku39 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1797 posts, RR: 9
Posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3281 times:

I remember hearing about this a few years ago, and I was just wondering if there is still any discussion about it in Spain or Morocco. It sounds like a great idea, and we absolutely be great to see built. So is the ball still rolling?


The Ohio Player
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User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3284 times:

The best I could find on Skyscrapers.com is an expected completion date of 2020. Here are some websites:

http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/eti/projects/bridgemain.html
http://www.skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=5478

By the way, it's Strait, not Straight.



Pete


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3212 times:

hmm...well politically Spain and Morocco arent exactly best buddies so I dunno how feasible this is from that perspective...

Greg



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16862 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3221 times:

Also I think the Spainish have taken note of the problems Britain is experiencing with illegal immigrants using the Chunnel to enter the Country from Continental Europe, Spain's not the most welcoming place for illegal African immgrants who swim a shore.


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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3210 times:

Spain's not the most welcoming place for illegal African immgrants who swim a shore.

Judging by the sheer volume of illegal Africans that keep arriving in Spain, it would seem that Spain is a damn sight more welcoming that what they're leaving behind.

Anyway, I also agree that Spain will not proceed with a bridge that will serve only to funnel more illegals into Spain. Spain really has no economic benefits to gain from a bridge to Morocco.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineBmi330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1450 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 19 hours ago) and read 3156 times:

There was a show on discovery channel about the bridge. Its just Studies and looking to the future this is not a definite project a bit like a or b doing a blended wing deigns etc.

User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7776 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 17 hours ago) and read 3129 times:

The "Extreme Engineering" shows on Discovery are pretty good. I've seen the show about the Gibraltar Strait bridge a few times, and I really think it is pie in the sky. I cannot imagine the enough commerce exists, or could potentially exist to make such a connection economically feasible. Plus the engineering challenges, which are easier to overcome than the economic challenges, of building a bridge over one of the busiest sea lanes are pretty big.

Even more pie in the sky, is the Bering Strait bridge. The cost of building the bridge, plus all the neccessary infrastructure leading up to the bridge, would cost hundreds of billions of dollars. Again, I generally believe that the engineers could do it, but it couldn't be justified to the accountants.

Plus anything that relies almost exclusively on automobile traffic is suspect. Such a project should include rail as well... which the Bering Strait proposal does, along with oil and natural gas pipelines.



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User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 13 hours ago) and read 3112 times:

Desertjets....I share your sentiments about the economics of this project.

This reminds me, when I was in Prince Edward Island in 1967 (Canada's smallest province, with only 100,000 people) they were talking about a 10 mile causeway to the mainland. The conventional wisdom at the time was that it would be more economical just to tow the island to shore!

Pete


User currently offlinePHX-LJU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 13 hours ago) and read 3104 times:

There are some people who want to built a bridge over -- or a tunnel under -- the Bering Strait to connect the US and Russia:

Here's an article: http://www.alaskajournal.com/stories/082602/foc_bering_dream.shtml


From www.alaskajournal.com

[Edited 2003-05-05 03:02:36]

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 12 hours ago) and read 3094 times:

This reminds me, when I was in Prince Edward Island in 1967 (Canada's smallest province, with only 100,000 people) they were talking about a 10 mile causeway to the mainland.

And yet.....the bridge was built! It has apparently been a boon to the PEI economy.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2732 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 12 hours ago) and read 3089 times:

People may be interested to know that funding for a bridge between Honshu (Ooma town) and Hokkaido (Toi town) in Japan has been approved. This would be the longest bridge in the world requiring two artificial islands to finish it.

The money is really a bribe by the national government to Aomori state on Honshu so Aomori will continue to take nuclear waste at a facility in Rokkasho village in Aomori. Such are politics in Japan !



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User currently offlineMls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3076 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 10 hours ago) and read 3075 times:



Some of those projects are beyond sanity. For the money involved in building a Spain-Morocco bridge, you could probably operate a free high speed on-demand ferry service FOREVER if you set up an interest-earning trust fund.


User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7776 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 9 hours ago) and read 3084 times:

The PEI bridge was featured in the episode with the Bering Strait Bridge. The PEI bridge does make sense seeing as there is a reasonably strong connection and need for a connection to the mainland... seeing as the strait ices up in the winter making travel by boat impossible, and air travel isn't always the best choice.

But the Bering Strait bridge is something else. One of the people on the show mentioned that the cost of the connecting infrastructure would be most of the cost of the project. On either side of the strait there is nothing for literally hundreds if not thousands of miles. In support of that project they tried to compare it to the effort that was required to build the Alaska pipeline... but they aren't pumping millions of barrels of oil through it.




Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
User currently offlineJessman From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1506 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3034 times:

I wish the title of this thread could be changed. Every time I see it I want to type "The Gibraltar Gay Bridge"


User currently offlineBobrayner From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3018 times:

Where would a Bering Bridge go to?

It's about 2000-3000km to the nearest point of the Baikal - Amur railway? There might be a railhead slightly closer on some little branch line to a mining town or whatever, but it's still a very long distance, over some of the world's most unforgiving terrain.

Even the BAM works at a tiny fraction of capacity on most of its route. Many of the towns that it serves were built to house people who worked on building the railway... I don't doubt it was an awesome feat of engineering, but what were they supposed to do after the railway was finished?



Cunning linguist
User currently offlineSoku39 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1797 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (11 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3004 times:

Ya that Bering straight show reminded me of the bridge over the Strait of Gibraltar. Man, but talk about something that could never happen that Bering straight thing takes the cake. How long is the ferry ride between Morrocco and Spain anyway, like 15 mins ?


The Ohio Player
User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 16, posted (11 years 3 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2964 times:

Well, the Gibraltar bridge is definitely in the realm of contemporary engineering, considering the bridge that Japan built over the inland sea. Right now I can't remember the name or exact location of it, but it is a three or four mile suspension bridge built with composite metals.


redngold



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