MaxPowers From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 475 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1884 times:
Buying a car now a days is hit or miss for the sub 45k market. Granted, there are some cars built then others, however my Envoy is built rock solid so far after 6 thousand miles. My moms Passat is holding up very strong after 35k miles in one year. However, my dads Camry is allright, it's having problems after 45k miles.
However, I've known people with VW's who have constant problems, who own GM's that fall appart (like our past Jimmy).
Again, I feel like it's Hit or Miss with cars these days in the Sub 45k market.
Maybach has amazingly built cars, inside and out. Some Benzes have major problems, as well as BMW.
Captaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1876 times:
One thing that always interests me with these surveys is the difference in reliability between different makes that have similar vehicles. For example, what brings Chevrolet's reliability below Buick? Ford below Mercury? Part of the reason might be actual quantifiable measures, but the major difference I feel is due to the older clientele who purchases Buicks, don't drive them nearly as much or as hard, and therefore wont experience as many problems in a short period of time.
It's nice to see the German car companies on a bit of a comeback, although it seems to me the Japanese are losing ground. There is precious little reason to purchase a car nowadays on the premise that "it's Japanese, so it will be reliable" or not buy a car because "it's American, and American cars are unreliable."
"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
DesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7879 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1871 times:
Hit or miss sounds about right. It also depends on which model you purchase as well. Some products from one maker seem to do better than others. And there is a lot of variation as well. Nobody really wants a car that causes all sorts of problems, but what it really comes down to it is how good the warranty is and how well the dealer network handles problems. I'd suspect that the makes with lower numbers might also have better dealer networks with bigger and better equipped shops to handle problems. If a problem gets fixed right the first time, other stuff tends not to reoccur.
Stop drop and roll will not save you in hell. --- seen on a church marque in rural Virginia
747-451 From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2417 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1858 times:
Hit or miss, perhaps, above 45k a car better be perfect. Being that most people spend between 20-30k those are the results that count (excepting gas guzzling battering rams...errr SUV's). Though not perfect, the Accord and Camry do very, very well for their cost--and offer same or better quality that cars costing more. Secondly, where domestic midsizes may fail "initial quality" (what ever that really is) my own 1984 Dodge 600 had 178,000 miles when it was wrecked in an accident, and that was one the original engine, transmission fuel injection A/C etc. It was very reliable, sure the body loosened up and there were a few rattles and squeeks, but it never left me stranded. /i have had good experiences with American cars since then as well.