Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4144 times:
Was flipping through and saw the end of a debate between two columnists on CNN. Below them the headline read that Bush and Blair are to be nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. Haven't read anything on their website yet.
Is this someone's idea of a sick joke? If true, this is an abomination.
KAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1955 posts, RR: 37 Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4074 times:
Bush and Blair were nominated by a Norwegian legislator.
"The background for my nomination is their decisive action against terrorism, something I believe in the future will be the greatest threat to peace," Nesvik said. "Unfortunately, sometimes ... you have to use force to secure peace."
If Carter, Arafat, and Kissinger can win it I don't see why they can't. The whole thing is a joke anyway.
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4063 times:
Carter has worked his who life, post-1600 Pennsylvania for peace, KAUSPilot, so I think he deserved it. Kissinger and Arafat were jokes. But for ANYONE to nominate two men who launched a war against a rather helpless nations should be the LAST two to be nominated.
IHadAPheo From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 6026 posts, RR: 59 Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4040 times:
UPDATE !!!! in a minor upset the Nobel Peace prize goes to a man well known for his many wonderful works.... Edi Amin.
Yours,
IHadAPheo+anMI AKA "Gobi"
Pray hard but pray with care For the tears that you are crying now Are just your answered prayers
B757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 25 Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4040 times:
They'll never get it. The fools who run the Nodel committee made it quite that they hate Bush. That was the whole reason for giving it to Carter and they publicly admitted it. Instead of giving it to people who deserve it, the idiots are more than happy to award it to terrorists, dictators, and their leftist buddies. Alfred Nobel would be turning in his grave knowing the prizes he created are being used as tools in a petty political game.
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4026 times:
Instead of giving it to people who deserve it,
Tell me, Mr. GOP, why does Bush deserve it? What has he done that is so peaceful, or that has promoted peace? Killed a few thousand Iraqi's, and about 200 allied troops? Threatened Iran? Threatened Syria? Threatened allies who don't agree with him.
Bush is not a man of peace. He never will be. He wants to be remembered for all ages as a great warrior. He may be remembered as a warrior. I doubt, when the last word is said about him, he'll be remembered as great.
Vafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 18 Reply 17, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3933 times:
Alpha 1 is completely right, the peace prize should be given to somebody that goes out of their way to force peace. Starting a war, doesn't help, occupying nations who hate us just because we control everything and tell EVERY country what to do (think bush telling saddam he has 48 hours to get out of his own country, or telling Russia that the islands that have belonged to them, but still lie off of the north of Japan should be given to Japan). A person who pushes international relations should be given the prize, not the person who ruined them.
Clinton spent 25% of his presidency out in another country having peace, economy, and allied talks between many many nations, and improves the Israeli/palestinian situation, and here comes Dubya who sat at his ranch 41% of his first year in presidency.
I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
MxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 40 Reply 18, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3929 times:
MxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 40 Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3910 times:
< whispering > psst, L-188 ... we're not supposed to say anything bad about His Holiness Bill ... Don't you remember, he never did anything wrong and always was only looking out for us poor citizens ... You post confuses the issue with FACTS!
For the record, I don't think Bush deserves the Peace Prize, nor does Blair or any of the rest of the world politic!
MxCtrlr
Freight Dogs Anonymous - O.O.T.S.K.
[Edited 2003-05-09 06:04:05]
DAMN! This SUCKS! I just had to go to the next higher age bracket in my profile! :-(
JetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 13 Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3916 times:
The argument is that sometimes you have to use force to secure peace. I don't disagree with that, and I doubt many of you are too simplistic to understand that. Surely you do, and if you do, then you should argue that the force used in question did nothing to end a threat to peace. Also, the gravy was 23 million people getting a new start and a chance for lives out from under the thumb of a tyrant. Certainly you would agree that that alone would warrant a Nobel, I do. Now if you do, then you need to argue that the Iraqi civilians were not under the thumb of a tyrant. Will their lives be better? Probably after some hard work but maybe not. At least they have a chance. So go ahead and poo-poo away, but I think this isn't as insane as you are all making out out to be. At least you haven't made a case against; just reactionary small talk driven by your bias. So which is it? Is waging war to end a threat for peace never Novel worthy? If it is IYHO, then did this war not achieve that? Does freeing millions from a tyrant not warrant a Nobel? If so, did this war not achieve that. I know most of you are smart enough to make a case, so let's hear that instead of cheap talk.
P.S. The nomination sounds like it came under doing battle against terrorism in general, so I suspect Afghanistan and those civvies are part of the equation.
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29350 posts, RR: 62 Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3903 times:
Well, Blair might, correct me if I am wrong but he is actively working on the whole, N.I. thing. But time will tell if that pans out.
A Nobel prize of G.W........Well I guess that is more of a second term issue. You never know though if the Iraq reconstruction turns out well or if that roadmap is accepted by the Palestinians and Israelis. Then he may end up still deserving of one.
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
25 MxCtrlr: Airworthy, All that epistle (from the Gospel according to Michael Moore) shows is that he doesn't like anybody or anything other than hearing himself
26 Airworthy: I totally agree MxCtrlr. Michael Moore is just like all of the other people who are paid to hold certain views. He has to keep up all of his criticism
27 MxCtrlr: I guess every country has to have it's "Iraqi Minister of Information" and Michael Moore elected himself to the position! MxCtrlr Freight Dogs Anonymo
28 Bobrayner: Didn't Kissinger got a Nobel Peace Prize? In which case they're clearly using a different definition of "peace" to the rest of us. A definition that w
29 CPH-R: I think that Blair would fit it nice, given that he tried to get Dubya & his Chickenhawks to cooperate with the U.N. He has also worked for an increas
30 PPGMD: CPH-R, Well I wasn't going to get involved in this thread because the I feel the peace prize is worthless (except the money that they give the winner)
31 Cba: "Remember the Balkans? Remember women and children dead after a medicine plant was attacked in the Sudan in 1997? Remember the thousands of innocent A
32 Goingboeing: Didn't Kissinger got a Nobel Peace Prize? In which case they're clearly using a different definition of "peace" to the rest of us. A definition that w
33 Alpha 1: Apparently Saddam is still around too. The good news there, cba, is that Saddam's days of murder and torture are over with. Out of this mess, maybe I
34 FDXmech: >>>Remember the thousands of innocent Afghan and Iraqi citizens that died under Bush's invasions? 2 years later, Afghanistan is still not stable, we s
35 Alpha 1: But if you've been keeping abreast of current events, you'd be aware that much of the Al-Qaeda's hierarchy has been captured. That part of what the B
36 WiLdmanVzla: That must be a terrible joke!!!!!!!!!! If Bush & Blair are both nominate for that Nobel price... why shoudn´t we nominate Osama Bin Laden?, he deseve
38 WiLdmanVzla: JetService: If I could nominate someone for the Nobel Peace Price, be sure I´ll look for someone fighting for the right of freedom of speak & thinkin
39 Cba: "But if you've been keeping abreast of current events, you'd be aware that much of the Al-Qaeda's hierarchy has been captured" If much of Al-Qaeda's h
40 Alpha 1: Cba, don't play dumb, ok? You know perfectly well that there are still thousands of terrorists out there, and that they don't necessarily need OBL tel
41 CPH-R: PP-whatever .. let's just agree to disagree.
42 KLAX: If they can give it to Arafat they can give it to anybody... -Clovis
43 CPH-R: The problem with Arafat getting it, IMO, is that the groups who does the palestinian attacks, call them what you want, simply weren't going to comply
44 Airplay: I think Bush and Blair are excellent candidates for a prize that is awarded to persons whose actions have had a profound affect on peace. These two to
45 KLAX: They did free an entire populace from a grotesque dictator. I'd take American occupation to Saddam's totalitarism... -Clovis
46 Alpha 1: KLAX, that may be, but it doesn't warrant Bush even being nominated for an honor usually reserved for someone who actually worked overtime for peace,
47 KLAX: I agree. I'd say if anyone should be given the prize, it should be Saddam. He left Baghdad so fast it made the war end in a zip! -Clovis
48 747-451: Hope Bush/Blair decline. Who needs a prize who's legacy includes the giving of one to Arafat...
49 Bobrayner: I don't for a moment doubt that Bush's decision to invade Iraq ultimately led to Iraq's liberation from SH. However, I don't think he deserves any awa
50 Bobrayner: The Onion intervewed a few people about this... http://www.theonion.com/onion3918/wdyt_3918.html
51 Caravelle: On reading this thread, I noticed someone (KAUSpilot, to be exact) claimed Norwegian legislators proposed Dubya and ChainDog. Who, I pray, made the pr
52 Bobrayner: Who, I pray, made the proposal? And why? It was Harald Tom Nesvik. Surprise, huh? Incidentally, all this is old news. They were nominated last year; N
53 Bobrayner: Hmm, maybe it might have been Simonsen rather than Nesvik. Not sure.
54 L-188: Unsurprisingly, the nomination wasn't successful. Jimmy Carter was the Nobel Peace Prize laureate in 2002; he "has stood by the principles that confli
55 Shamrock1Heavy: *cough* money involved with some governmnets that will go nameless*cough* (britain and usa) *cough* I am sickened by this -D
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