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User currently offlineThumper From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 550 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1794 times:

France is Not a Western Country Anymore
By Guy Milliere
FrontPageMagazine.com | March 31, 2003


French-bashing is everywhere in the American media. I am French, and I must say if Americans knew completely what's happening in France, the French-bashing would be far harsher.

Jacques Chirac has been a friend of Saddam Hussein for more than thirty years. He allowed the sale of nuclear facilities to Iraq that were destroyed just in time by Israël. He sold Iraq the planes that were been used to gas thousands of Kurds. And Saddam is not the only friend Chirac has. Chirac has never met a ruthless dictator he did not like. Worse, Chirac is unprincipled and greedy. It is common knowledge in France that he stole a lot of money when he was the mayor of Paris, and everyone knows that if he had not been re-elected in May 2002, he would be in jail now. To hear him speaking about morality or international law nauseates every decent Frenchman.

And Chirac is not the only politician of this stripe in France. These days, it is becoming hard to find a French politician ready to speak about human rights, freedom or democracy. All of them seem to have the same speechwriter or to belong to the same totalitarian political party; all of them are anti-American, anti-Israeli and "pacifists." They regard Western civilization as something filthy and abhorrent.

If you read the newspapers, it's the same. At times it seems the only difference between the Soviet Union twenty years ago and France today is that in Soviet Union you had only one Pravda, and in France you now have at least ten such propaganda outlets: Different titles, same content. Their party line is clear in reporting on the personalities found in the present Middle Eastern crisis. Saddam Hussein, the "President of Iraq"? Well, maybe he has been brutal, but you know, in "those" countries... George W. Bush? He’s a "moron" - a former alcoholic, who has become a crazy fanatic, in fact the most dangerous man on the face of earth. Ariel Sharon? A fascist who loves to kill Arabs. Arafat? A great freedom fighter. When an American general speaks, it is merely propaganda, but when Tariq Aziz pontificates, it is pure truth. Almost everyday you hear anti-Semitic remarks, to boot.

The anti-Semitism has created a threat to the physical safety for French Jews. Almost every week, some Jews get mugged, simply for being Jews. Almost nobody pays attention to it. When an anti-Semitic act is so disgusting it is impossible to hide it, journalists will speak of "confrontation between communities." When confronted with the reality that these "confrontations" are always Muslims attacking Jews, the editorial response: "Just because there has yet to be a single documented case of a Jew attacking a Muslim yet doesn't mean it will never happen. . . ."

And Jews are not the only victims of France's new identification with radical Islam. In many French cities with a growing radical Islamist population, no teenage girl can go out in the evening, at least not without a full burqa. If she does, it will mean that "she is for everybody": in short, a whore. In the same cities, every teenage girl - regardless of religion - has to wear the Muslim veil if she does not want to be harassed or killed. Almost every month, a young woman is mugged and raped in a suburb of a big city. Gang rape has become so frequent that a new word, used by the rapists themselves to define their hideous actions, is used by everybody: tournantes (revolving). To the rapists, the woman is nothing, a mere object to be thrown away after use. The people who speak about "revolving" seem to forget a human being is involved as the victim. Policemen do nothing. Every decent person knows the problem is Islam, but no one dares to say it. It could be dangerous. The streets are not safe.

One year ago, a French Muslim decided to create a new business: he was tired of seeing people drinking Coca-Cola - all this money going to Americans! He found a factory and started to produce Mecca Cola. On the label, he put a picture of the Al Aqsa mosque, with a large part of his profits would help to support the Palestinian cause. In some suburbs of Paris, Coca-Cola has disappeared; Mecca Cola has replaced it. A few days ago, another Muslim businessman announced he will start to sell Muslim-Up. It will have the taste of Sprite or Seven-Up, but it will be a Muslim drink - and naturally the profits will go to the Palestinian jihad, as well.

Three radio stations in France are Muslim radio stations, and if you listen to them, dedicated to broadcasting the voice of hate and racism all day long. One radio station belongs to a friend of the rightist Jean-Marie Le Pen, and curiously, if you listen to it, you will hear the same voice of hate and racism. Rightists and radical Muslims have discovered they have many things in common.

If you want to understand why all this is happening, you have to understand one thing: thirty years ago, French governments started to have a new foreign policy. They called this new policy, "Arabian Policy." France became closer to Arab countries - all of them disgusting dictatorships. France "benefited" by doing business easily in these countries. In exchange, France had to push Europe to unknot its ties with Israël and the United States. In exchange too, "professors" came from the Arabian dictatorships to teach the Arabic language to the young Arabs living in France. The only book they used to teach the Arabic language was THE book, Al Kuran.

Now comes the time to pay the check: six million Muslims live in France, at least ten per cent of them are radical Islamists poised on the edge of violence. And these radical Muslims have allies on both the extreme Left and the extreme Right. France is not a Western country anymore, it is now the leader of the Arab/Muslim world. Israel has to know France is its main enemy. The United States has to understand they have nothing to expect from today's France except nastiness, treason, and cheating.

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User currently offlineMD11 From Pakistan, joined Oct 2004, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1752 times:

Front Page Magazine is the absolute worst piece of writing on the planet! And I'm Republican.  Wow!

User currently offlineDavid B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1737 times:

what is the point of this worthless shit? Did the GOP Isreal asskisser write this?

This person should be shot on site. What are your comments Thumper?



Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
User currently offlineThumper From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1728 times:

Seems kind of radical to me.I believe Chirac is a weasel, but I have a hard time believing France is that bad! I thought some French would respond and set the record straight. I knew that Chirac was a thief when he was mayor of Paris, but its hard to believe the rest is true. I sure as hell hope not!

User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1697 times:

"George W. Bush? He’s a "moron" - a former alcoholic, who has become a crazy fanatic, in fact the most dangerous man on the face of earth. Ariel Sharon? A fascist who loves to kill Arabs."

Sounds pretty close to the truth to me.

The sick thing is that a majority of Americans believe crap like the posted article. Thumper, you need a reality check.


User currently offlineAOMlover From Singapore, joined Jul 2001, 1308 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1671 times:

HAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Don't worry Thumper, that's not France...
and I'm pretty sure the guy who wrote this piece of shit is not even French.
I'm also worried that some ppl seem to consider frontpagemag as a reliable source...


User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1645 times:

The anti-Semitism has created a threat to the physical safety for French Jews. Almost every week, some Jews get mugged, simply for being Jews. Almost nobody pays attention to it. When an anti-Semitic act is so disgusting it is impossible to hide it, journalists will speak of "confrontation between communities." When confronted with the reality that these "confrontations" are always Muslims attacking Jews, the editorial response: "Just because there has yet to be a single documented case of a Jew attacking a Muslim yet doesn't mean it will never happen. . . ."

This part is true. I know many Jews in France.


User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1632 times:

" In many French cities with a growing radical Islamist population, no teenage girl can go out in the evening, at least not without a full burqa. If she does, it will mean that "she is for everybody": in short, a whore. In the same cities, every teenage girl - regardless of religion - has to wear the Muslim veil if she does not want to be harassed or killed."

ROFL! I got it know, frontpagemag has to be a satirical magazine.


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1613 times:

Lol!!! You have to love frontpagemag.

Thumper, if you believe any of this you're an idiot. You believe Chirac is a weasel, what, because you read articles like this? Grow up.

" In many French cities with a growing radical Islamist population, no teenage girl can go out in the evening, at least not without a full burqa. If she does, it will mean that "she is for everybody": in short, a whore. In the same cities, every teenage girl - regardless of religion - has to wear the Muslim veil if she does not want to be harassed or killed."

Haha!


User currently offlineKLAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1605 times:

In the same cities, every teenage girl - regardless of religion - has to wear the Muslim veil if she does not want to be harassed or killed."



What "cities" are these?  Confused

Frontpagemag once again proving how retarded they are...

-Clovis


User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2334 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1605 times:

The anti semitism is true, but in Marseille the situation is still good, this city has the largest concetration of Jews and Muslims, but the rest of France...
Many Jews are thinking about moving to Israel or the US, where they most likely would be killed by Muslims as well  Sad

Well France has a loooong history of trying to be on both sides of the table, and with the Middle East they sold loads of weapons to many many countries, of course Russia is the main weapon dealer to the Arab countries.

Iraq's main nuclear reactor is actually called Chirac!
And that is not from the front page...It's a fact!
Germany has sold so many chemicals and even cropdusting planes to Iraq damn now who had the most interests in Iraq???
Russia signed a contract last fall on Iraqi oil so...

France has the larget Muslim and Jewish population in Europe, and in Holland and in my country the situation is growing from bad to worse...
In Holland there is so many problems with Arabs that the other wise liberal country has now grown concerned  Sad

In most countries people are just bitching, but the situation in France is NOT good!
Chirac threatened the new EU countries for their US friendly attitudes...
How dares he?? He said that they should know their place in the order, of course France would like to see them selves in the leading role...
France also told the public schools not to go to Denmark because we supported the military operations in Iraq!!!
I feel like Germany and France has destroyed the EU and NATO even the relationship between Europe and the US  Sad

Thanks again Chirac and Sch??der!

But that article gave me goose bumps because it almost dictates the words of Nostradamus...
In almost every prophesy he praised France, but not in our century, he cursed France for their affiliations with the Arab world and their sale of weapons to those countries, "...And for that they will pay a heavy price..." He wrote!

So maybe some of those things are true, it sure highlighted the situation and where it's heading! And that it does!

Boaz....



"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
User currently offlineNicogagne From France, joined Feb 2003, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1603 times:

The article is indeed a piece of crap, it seems that the writer wants to set a country against another, the Jewish community against the Muslim one, the French against the Americans, the Americans against the French...what the article is describing is not France at all!
It's true that France sold nuclear facilities to Iraq, but the US and Britain did the same.

"One year ago, a French Muslim decided to create a new business: he was tired of seeing people drinking Coca-Cola - all this money going to Americans! He found a factory and started to produce Mecca Cola"
-> I've never heard of it, and I have never seen a single Mecca Cola bottle.

"Three radio stations in France are Muslim radio stations, and if you listen to them, dedicated to broadcasting the voice of hate and racism all day long. One radio station belongs to a friend of the rightist Jean-Marie Le Pen, and curiously, if you listen to it, you will hear the same voice of hate and racism. Rightists and radical Muslims have discovered they have many things in common."
-> That is maybe true, I have never heard of these radio stations neither. However I know a Jewish radio station, and if you listen to it, you will hear radical speeches and comments! These radio stations, which represent religious or ethnic communities, seem to be very radical.

"Their party line is clear in reporting on the personalities found in the present Middle Eastern crisis. Saddam Hussein, the "President of Iraq"? Well, maybe he has been brutal, but you know, in "those" countries... George W. Bush? He’s a "moron" - a former alcoholic, who has become a crazy fanatic, in fact the most dangerous man on the face of earth. Ariel Sharon? A fascist who loves to kill Arabs. Arafat? A great freedom fighter. When an American general speaks, it is merely propaganda, but when Tariq Aziz pontificates, it is pure truth"
-> This passage is pathetic! No comments!

I hope that nobody believes what the article says! It's simply disgusting!

Nico


User currently offlineThumper From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1585 times:

777236ER: Your an idiot if you don't think Chirac is a weasel! This article means nothing as far as that.The BBC,and even the French have said he is a thief,everyone knows that.I think you better come up and smell the roses. I do not like Bush and his policy but as a man he is head and shoulders above Chirac. I also do not believe the rest of the article,that's why it was printed,to let the French on here dispel with all the lies in the article.

Nicogagne; Thanks for the response,its good to hear how a real Frenchman fells about it.I feel the same way about it.


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1582 times:

Your an idiot if you don't think Chirac is a weasel! This article means nothing as far as that.The BBC,and even the French have said he is a thief,everyone knows that.I think you better come up and smell the roses. I do not like Bush and his policy but as a man he is head and shoulders above Chirac. I also do not believe the rest of the article,that's why it was printed,to let the French on here dispel with all the lies in the article.

Sorry what, you DON'T believe this article? Why did you post it? What in the article do you believe?


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7966 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1575 times:

He found a factory and started to produce Mecca Cola"
-> I've never heard of it, and I have never seen a single Mecca Cola bottle.


Mecca Cola does exist - so what?

Your an idiot if you don't think Chirac is a weasel!

Foul language that will help closing this forum.



I support the right to arm bears
User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

Your an idiot if you don't think Chirac is a weasel!

Replace the Chirac with Bush and it's ok...

/Frederic


User currently offlineManni From South Korea, joined Nov 2001, 4221 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1553 times:

'George W. Bush, he is a moron, a former alcoholic'

Hahaha atleast he's got the symptons, you better stick to Mecca cola and Muslim-up. And dont forget to have a muslimburger at the Mac Mecca, and at some areas Marlboro has dissappeard because everybody smokes Camel.



SUPPORT THE LEBANESE CIVILIANS
User currently offlineBlink182 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 5485 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1535 times:

George W. Bush is a moron. Completely true!

Before we get on Chirac's back about all of this which seems to be false according to the French people here. Does anyone here really think Bush went to "war" with Iraq to free the Iraqi people? He wanted Saddam out so he could get free oil. Is it any coincidence that while N. Korea has stated it has nuclear and biological weapons yet the United States still declares war on the biggest oil producing country? Is it any coincidence that Bush picked an oil tycoon to be his vice president?

France has had its faults, but the United States does too. The only reason the US hasn't gone after Saudi Arabia for "human rights" is because the Bush family hit it off well with the Saudi Arabian monarchy.

blink



Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineThumper From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1524 times:

777236ER: "I also do not believe the rest of the article,that's why it was printed, "TO LET THE FRENCH ON HERE DISPEL ALL THE LIES IN THE ARTICLE."
Try getting past your prejudices and READ!

Manni: "and at some areas Marlboro has dissappeard because everybody smokes Camel." Ha Ha I like that,that's very funny!


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1481 times:

Try getting past your prejudices and READ!

Read WHAT?! You DON'T believe in the article but you still posted it?


User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1477 times:

Can you say "windup" Thumper.....I knew you could.

User currently offlineThumper From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 550 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1472 times:

777236ER: "Read WHAT?!"--- "TO LET THE FRENCH ON HERE DISPEL ALL THE LIES IN THE ARTICLE."
Which one of those great big words do you not understand?


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8773 posts, RR: 42
Reply 22, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1453 times:

When I read the source of that article, I switched to "this must be a cynical satire". And I have to say that it's the best thing I could do. France the leader of the Arab world... with 600,000 radical muslims, as the writer says... LOL!

The funniest sh!t is this:

"Three radio stations in France are Muslim radio stations, and if you listen to them, dedicated to broadcasting the voice of hate and racism all day long. One radio station belongs to a friend of the rightist Jean-Marie Le Pen, and curiously, if you listen to it, you will hear the same voice of hate and racism. Rightists and radical Muslims have discovered they have many things in common."

I thought Le Pen had gotten that far by preaching hatred toward Arab people? I knew I was wrong!

@ 777236ER: "Read WHAT?! You DON'T believe in the article but you still posted it?"

That's called demonstrating what you're opposed to, I guess. Maybe Thumper should have made this clearer than he did, though.



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineMxCtrlr From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 2485 posts, RR: 35
Reply 23, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1443 times:

Check out the following threads. This has been posted before...in TWO post, both by myself...

The first thread:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/370617/6/

The second thread (which says it all!):
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/non_aviation/read.main/370712/

'Nuff said!

MxCtrlr  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Freight Dogs Anonymous - O.O.T.S.K.  Smokin cool



DAMN! This SUCKS! I just had to go to the next higher age bracket in my profile! :-(
User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 1435 times:

"Your an idiot if you don't think Chirac is a weasel!"

You're an idiot if you don't think Bush is a weasel.


25 777236ER : Which one of those great big words do you not understand? So you still think Chirac is a weasel (because...?) but you think the article is entirely wr
26 B757300 : Ouch, truth bites big time. Of course, many people would feel right at home in modern France. They hate Jews and America, love Saddam and support the
27 777236ER : Ouch, truth bites big time. Of course, many people would feel right at home in modern France. They hate Jews and America, love Saddam and support the
28 Sabena 690 : B757300, I guess you come from another planet?
29 Ilyushin96M : It's really pathetic that some people have nothing better to do than post idioitic articles about France. Seems the more conservative members of this
30 Post contains images MxCtrlr : FrontPageMagazine.com makes Rush Limbaugh look like a bleeding-heart, dyed-in-the-wool left-wing liberal! Not a real "trustworthy" news source (as I w
31 Post contains links Aloges : Remember that other frontpagemag jewel? For the memories: A Story About The Middle East And Turmoil
32 Cba : "Ouch, truth bites big time. Of course, many people would feel right at home in modern France. They hate Jews and America, love Saddam and support the
33 Sabena 690 : He probably thinks that he is cool with saying that an extreme right president as Le Penne is better than Chirac. With only a minor knowledge of how t
34 PHX-LJU : B757300 wrote: "Of course, many people would feel right at home in modern France. They hate Jews and America, love Saddam and support the Islamofascis
35 Delta-flyer : It's reassuring to see people react negatively to this radical article. Yet many of you who are appalled by it support equally radical views against t
36 Aloges : "I wouldn't mind your stupidity that much if you didn't embarrass your fellow Americans in the process." Rest assured, you fellow Americans are doing
37 B747forlife : Ilyushin96M, but it is perfectly alright to post idiotic articles about the US. Hmmmmm, can I smell and see a huge, glaring double standard in your po
38 Ilyushin96M : B747, where did I say it's alright to post those? Only morons read things that aren't there.
39 Ilyushin96M : And B747, might I add that as of late, responses like yours seem to be the typical knee-jerk reaction of anyone who's pro-Bush and pro-war. Anyone who
40 Sebolino : HA HA I just read the article. If the writer is really French, then he's in the Extreme right party of LePen, no doubt.
41 Eg777er : A serious point about FrontPageMag. They seem to think that if an anti-French article is written by a Frenchman, as done here, then it somehow lends t
42 B747forlife : Ilyushin96M, to tell you the truth, my comment has nothing to do with Bush or the war. All I said was that you would not be saying that an article by
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