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Series Of Bomb Blasts In Riyadh; 10 Americans Dead  
User currently offlineEg777er From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 1837 posts, RR: 14
Posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5546 times:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/05/13/saudi.blast/index.html

It seems that Al-Qaeda is not the defeated force we thought it was......

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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 43
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5468 times:

Let's wait and see when this will become a bashing fest between "Bush haters" and "right wing idiots". Insane Seems like simply beating the "towelheads" up didn't work, as predicted.

In the meantime, I'd like to express my deep sympathy for the victims and their famlies.



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8124 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5474 times:

When was Al Qaeda granted a monopoly on anti-American violence?! This could be anyone. No-one in Saudi except a few of the royals want any Americans in their country, let alone defence and military experts (I note Boeing lost a few people). The idea that OBL is connected to this attack or others is ridiculous. Concentrating on one guy and one small organisation is dangerously stupid when virtually every Arab speaking person on the planet resents US support for dodgy regimes and of course Israel. This attack could have been carried out by absolutely anyone.


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User currently offlineEg777er From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 1837 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5467 times:

It must be Al-Qaeda.....Powell said so! Weren't we supposed to believe him at the UNSC!?  Big grin

User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5378 times:

The idea that OBL is connected to this attack or others is ridiculous.

Amazing, Cedarjet, that you can much such a sweeping statement, with so much confidence, only hours after the attack! Why is it ridiculous? It seems perfectly plausable: he's from Saudi; his network extends into Saudi; his network would certainly have as much capability to pull off such an attack on "home turf". So, tell us, why it's ridiculous to speculate that it could be him?

It certainly could be someone else, but to say, outright, as you did, that Al Qaeda wasn't behind it is the ultimate in naivte.

Shows once again that, despite the wars in Afghanistan, which I support, and the one in Iraq, which I didn't, that terrorism is still a scourge on the earth. And, I'm sure Bush will ratchet up the fear rhetoric after this attack. It serves his re-election purposes to keep the focus on terrorism, and away from the economy.


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8124 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5374 times:

I just meant it as a general observation. A carbomb outside a nightclub in Bali isn't particularly complicated - surely a load of fertiliser and some gasoline with a timer would do the trick? And for this, they need financing from OBL?

And this incident in Saudi is the same: a few blokes with bombs and guns and it's 'international terrorism'? Hijacking jets and all the preparations that go with it (flying lessons et al) is one thing; but these small-scale incidents aren't in the same league. Why would Al Qaeda bother with such small-scale stuff? I think Al Qaeda are the last group I'd suspect in an incident such as this one in Saudi.



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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5365 times:

Why would Al Qaeda bother with such small-scale stuff?

Cedarjet, you forget one thing: Al Qaeda and it's leader-if he's still alive-is dedicated to killing Americans whenver and wherever they are. And killing over 19 Americans, at last count, isn't small-scale, is it? It fits their pattern. It may not be them, but they're the prime suspect.

If you can't see this, you're hopelessly blind on this issue.


User currently offlineKlaus From Germany, joined Jul 2001, 21480 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5358 times:

It´s a horrible tragedy. My condolences to the victims and their families.

Attacks such as this don´t take much organisation; Some explosives and a lot of hate are quite enough. There is no purely military solution to this. Bombs and invasions can´t get rid of hate. Quite the opposite, in fact.


User currently offlineTodaReisinger From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 2806 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5346 times:

The idea that OBL is connected to this attack or others is ridiculous.




[...]




This attack could have been carried out by absolutely anyone.







This last sentence is highly ridiculous



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User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5315 times:

The attacks had all the hallmarks of Al-Qaeda. No one ever said Al-Qaeda was defeated. Their operations have been disrupted but not destroyed. Even though we've taken out a lot of their infrastructure, it probably doesn't take much to carry out an attack in the Middle East.


"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2330 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5299 times:

Al Qaeda is not a small organization it is beyond that!
It's like saying that the Star Alliance is an airline!
AL Qaeda is not ONE organization, the heads of it is, but they are only pulling strings.
The Bali bombing was Al Qaeda, but the men in direct resposibility for the bombing was Indonesian, that had ties to Al Qaeda, their like the UN in function, but with just the opposite objectives!

And please please PLEASE don't compare Israel with ANY of the other "dodgy-regimes"!
Israel is the only democracy in the MIddle East!

This IS Al Qaeda's fingerprints on this one!
Suicide car bombings, simultaneous attacks and the targets!
And Saudi Arabia being Osama Bin Laden's home country, and the American presence being the fuel on his fire of hatred towards the west, this IS their fingerprint!

Also you must remember that the fanatics hate the US more than Israel! Actually!
Go and talk to people in The Middle East, I found much much more hatred towards the US than to Israel, Israel is not loved, far from it, but the pure and dangerous hatred is towards the US...

These are not funny times people! I see the future as unclear, either a peaceful solution to this, where all sides lay down their arms and hatred, or everything escalates into a final show down...

This is sad, but also very true...

Boaz...



"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
User currently offlineIllini_152 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5288 times:

To call this a small scale operation is nuts, did you READ what happened? They shot their way into a secured compound, simultaniously breaching the main gate and crashing though the main wall, then detonated their car bombs inside the secured compound.

Yeah, my crazy neighbor down the street could have pulled that one off. Give me a break, this took preperation, training and big $$ to finance. Hell, even the Palistinians don't got to this extreem, the just strap some dynamite to some gullible sap and send him on his way.

If it wasn't Al Quida, then it was some new terrorist organisation with big funding and strong backing in the Arab world.

--
Mike



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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5267 times:

Ten AMERICANS?! Woah! I mean 19 other people died, and 200 were injured, but ten Americans?!

That's just going too far!


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8124 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5268 times:

Actually I heard that the Saudis are now saying 29 are dead...but another source informs me that the true number is closer to 100 (which may give me cause to withdraw my earlier doubts about a sizeable organisation being involved). Anyone else know anything more?


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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6006 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5251 times:

Well, Cedar, 10 + 19 IS 29  Laugh out loud

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/WBT264951.htm

You really have to love the guys response to it. I'd like to see how he'll punish the dead bodies of the terroists.


User currently offlineDerico From Argentina, joined Dec 1999, 4307 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5251 times:

..."Ten AMERICANS?! Woah! I mean 19 other people died, and 200 were injured, but ten Americans?!"

"That's just going too far!"...


Yeah, 777236ER, I was thinking the exact same thing. I don't think it was eg777er to discount the non-americans killed as less important, but it needed to be clarified that not only americans died, but just as importantly other nationalities died.



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User currently offlineKLAX From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5241 times:

The point isnt that the American dead are any "more important" than the other tragic losses, but that Americans were most likely the target of the attack...

-Clovis


User currently offlineRwy31R From Saudi Arabia, joined Aug 2001, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5235 times:


It has been a very long night/morning we have been getting victims at the emergency room at many hospitals in Riyadh, the blasts were so massive that some were heared over a 10Km radius.

The last figures are 29 confirmed dead at least what we are hearing here as said on msnbc and cnn (and not 91 as mistaken earlier),the number is feared to increase.

My deepest sympathies to those who lost their lives of many nationalities. Terrorism is just that where ever it happens, and those commeting such act belong to no religion or form of civilization. The think they are martyrs, they are not even close.



"Saudia Three Five hold short Three One Right"
User currently offlineEg777er From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 1837 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5189 times:

Just to clear any confusion over the title of my post.

I posted the information just after midday (British time) this afternoon as the first reports were coming in, when obviously the number of casualties was not known for certain.

In hindsight, it was probably insensitive of me to write "10 Americans Dead" as of course deaths of any nationality, race, creed etc. are tragedies. However, this was the headline across CNN.com which was the website being used for my information (and which I subsequently made a link to).

I must therefore apologise for any offence that the title of my post may have caused.

On a personal note, I have family in Bahrain and many friends in Riyadh. I sincerely hope they are all right, and that this terrorist activity does not spread to other parts of the Middle East. My condolences are with everyone's families, and my thoughts with the professionals such as Rwy31R who are having to deal with the aftermath of this needless violence.


User currently offlineIndianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5151 times:

Lets not forget where all this started from and who started it.

George Bush sent in mercenaries to rape a sovereign Arab nation and continues to illegally occupy Arab territory. As long as American mercenaries continue to occupy Arab territory and molest Muslim sensibilities, the Muslim people have the right to attack American interests wherever they can be found. This is not terrorism, but a freedom struggle.

As long as American troops occupy Iraq all American targets are fair game. I think Jay Garner's illegal "interim authority" should be targetted next.

-Roy


User currently offlineEric505 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 592 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5141 times:

Forget Jay Leno, Indianguy is all the entertainment I need for tonight...
LMAO



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User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5145 times:

" and molest Muslim sensibilities...This is not terrorism, but a freedom struggle."

Wow, what a coincidence...isn't that what you are cheering on when the Pakistani 'freedom fighters' act in Kashmir? Those guys crossing your border are simply freedom fighters protecting a majority Muslim land from the heathen Indians, right?







User currently offlineDavid B. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5136 times:

Took the words from my mouth Indianguy.

Signed,
OBL



Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5124 times:

I actually agree with you on this one David B.  Smile

I just turned Leno off, a search of the original Airliners.net terrorist-wanna-be's posts is better!

 Laugh out loud


-NWA742


User currently offline9V-SVE From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 2066 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (11 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 5109 times:

Lets not forget where all this started from and who started it.

George Bush sent in mercenaries to rape a sovereign Arab nation and continues to illegally occupy Arab territory. As long as American mercenaries continue to occupy Arab territory and molest Muslim sensibilities, the Muslim people have the right to attack American interests wherever they can be found. This is not terrorism, but a freedom struggle.

As long as American troops occupy Iraq all American targets are fair game. I think Jay Garner's illegal "interim authority" should be targetted next.


LMAO! The posts from the most Left Wing Nut and the most Right Wing lunatic in Airliners.Net are very amusing  Big grin


25 Indianguy : @Eric505, DavidB, NWA742, 9V-SVE: Facts and rational statements to back up your beliefs dont really help in a debate. They only spoil the fun, and wh
26 KLAX : The US has to answer why it is supporting terrorism in some parts of the world, like Kashmir and Chechnya while condemning it when it hurts you! This
27 B747-437B : The point isnt that the American dead are any "more important" than the other tragic losses Again, another attempt to be "politically correct" rather
28 Alpha 1 : I think that the fact that Roy was allowed to have a post stand where he actively calls for the targeting, attacking and killing of Americans is atroc
29 Post contains images Goodbye : Looks like the "war on terror" has been successful!
30 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Goodbye, dipping your toes somewhere you haven't been in a while, eh?
31 TodaReisinger : As long as American troops occupy Iraq all American targets are fair game. Great...And the 9-11 attacks were also "fair game", I guess...you just need
32 N79969 : Roy, No desperation here. I am just challenging your utterly delusional view of the world and your creative moral accounting when innocent Americans a
33 MD-90 : Sic 'em, Alpha 1! lol I couldn't resist. I do agree with you (not Roy) but it is kind of funny, to me at least.
34 Heavymetal : As long as American mercenaries continue to occupy Arab territory and molest Muslim sensibilities, the Muslim people have the right to attack American
35 747-451 : "Is that what is taught in American schools these days? " As opposed to what your schools fill your mind with? "George Bush sent in mercenaries to rap
36 Indianguy : What also is a fact is that Roy is so removed from reality-he has absolutely no concept of what is going on here, that it really blows the mind. The
37 Indianguy : Iraqi's are still the bigger victims here. The Iraqi casualties caused by the crusade launched by GWB was almost 3599! thats right, almost 3600 Iraqi
38 David B. : Again, another attempt to be "politically correct" rather than admitting the obvious facts. Of course American dead are "more important" than any othe
39 N79969 : Roy, Why aren't you weeping for the innocent civilians of Kashmir that have been brutalized and killed by the Indian Army over the past 50 years?
40 Eric505 : If OBL is helping to even the score, whats wrong with that? The message should go out loud and clear: That no attack on any soveriegn nation will go u
41 Post contains images Goodbye : I missed you too Alpha 1!!
42 Heavymetal : If you've read any of my postings in the past three months, Mister Roy (and I have to assume you did), you will notice a stubborn theme, much to the c
43 Post contains images Alpha 1 : I missed you too Alpha 1!! ROTFL. Hope you've been doing well, Goodbye. Thanks for making me laugh there. As for you Roy, I get such a kick when you c
44 SV747-468 : Heavymetal, Totally uncalled for! How raciest can you get? By the way you were trying to reply to Indianguy! Nothing connected to ARABS! He has an opi
45 Alpha 1 : People like you are reasons why we have UBL and other thugs that run around trying to change the world!!!!! CHANGE the world? Don't kid yourself. Dest
46 SV747-468 : Alpha 1, Your right I agree with you 100%! Destroy is a better word, and thanks alot for correcting me!
47 Heavymetal : I now have God, Guts N Guns Americans and Saudi Arabs made at me. I must be doing something right. SV, if you will look at my first post, you will I d
48 SV747-468 : Heavymetal, Buddy I don't mean to offend you, but people who think UBL is serving anybody or it's right to go around and kill people for an Unkown cau
49 Post contains images GKirk : Alpha 1, I suppose with ADG gone, you still have Goodbye to argue with Anyway, I heard some British folk died also. Condolences to those who knew peop
50 Alpha 1 : GKirk, actually, I plan to keep my promise to Goodbye as long as he keeps his end of the bargian. He seems to be an honest young man, so I have no rea
51 Ryanb741 : Yep the attack was justified. Thanks to the brave martyrs who conducted this 'heroic' act there will be fewer schoolteachers, children and development
52 Post contains images 747-451 : "So what is the "real" truth? What you see on FOX? Tell me, are American mercenaries in Iraq or not? Why is Jay Garner in Baghdad? Was this about "rem
53 Indianguy : Iraqi civilian casualties are accidents, while OBL and his thugs commit meditated murder. Understand that? Sending a 1-million dollar missile to atta
54 L-188 : Ahhh and Roy chimes in. Next thing you know he will be blaming the US for those 7000 brides that are accidently burned alive in India per year.
55 Indianguy : L-188: May I remind you that we are discussing the bomb blast in Saudi. -Roy
56 L-188 : Really. I thought we where discussing the attempted assignment of blame in the case of a terrorist target on the victims.
57 N79969 : Roy, Once again you demonstrate your breathtaking bigotry and hypocrisy. I have a pretty solid grasp of the issues. Much better than yours I suspect s
58 N79969 : Roy, The attackers in Riyadh, Casablanca, and elsewhere actively seek out defenseless, innocent civilians and murder them in their sleep, while they e
59 L-188 : Kashmir is Indian. With you or without you. And nothing is ever going to change that Spoken like a true arrogant. Tell me has India cleared it's illeg
60 Indianguy : L-188: The elections are done with. The Kashmiri's have chosen their leader and now have a chief minister of their choice. If only you had gone to sch
61 Post contains links L-188 : Roy, Don't emphasis your lack of intelect by attempting to trash my education. At least I attempt to expand mine, which is more then you seem to be wi
62 Airmale : I would'nt be surprised if Al Qaeda itself is something set up by the secret agencies that govern the world order, so they can impose their one system
63 L-188 : Oddly enough the US does not keep fighters lock and loaded for 24 hour intercepts in the continetal US. You are getting really close to the conspiricy
64 N79969 : As much as I hate to disturb the Potemkin Village that is your mind but the Jihadis that come over the border from Pakistan and shoot up innocent peop
65 PROSA : Conspiracy suggestion: Maybe the Saudi government was behind the bombings, so it will have more justification for cracking down on those pesky fundame
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