Sleekjet From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2050 posts, RR: 21 Posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2087 times:
I never cease to be amazed at Vermont. In some respects, it's pretty much colonial America...very, very rural and agricultural and devoted to early American values - but also maybe the most liberal group of folks between the Atlantic and Pacific.
When I go there, I only seem to see the traditional side. In the really small towns, folks are anti-urban sprawl and anti-growth of any kind...and pro-small town and family values.
But regardless, Vermont's beauty is hard to express in words. And autumn in the Green Mountains will make your eyes hurt.
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2050 times:
What are early American values?
What are "liberal" values?
You throw those terms around in much the same way Bill Bennett throws cash at a slot machine.
Having lived in Vermont, I know that its a "live and let live" state in which folks respect individual human rights and prefer to have the government outside their individual homes and bedrooms. They also vote for those elected officials who will guarantee the amazing, stupendous beauty of their state. Vermont is beautiful at any time of the year. In Autumn, however, you can get drunk on its beauty. Some day, I hope to retire in my little house in Norwich.
Mbmbos From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2627 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2051 times:
"What are early American values? "
I don't know. Where in this thread has the term been used?
"What are "liberal" values?"
You are the one who mentioned liberalism and the irony of it's strong hold in rural Vermont.
I don't see it as terribly ironic actually.
"Having lived in Vermont, I know that its a "live and let live" state in which folks respect individual human rights and prefer to have the government outside their individual homes and bedrooms."
I think that what you are referring to is what is know as libertarianism, which is prevalent throughout the United States - not just Vermont. Conservatives have taken ownership of libertarianism, as they have used it successfully in populist campaign themes. But you'll find very strong threads of libertarianism running through the liberal camp as well.