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User currently offlineTechRep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 14646 times:

Please list what you consider the top 5 movies about WWII from the German perspective. I have now seen Stalingrad and want to see Cross of Iron and now Die Brücke.

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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8765 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 14638 times:

Phew... I believe it's hard to make up that list because we don't really have a lot of movies to choose from. Nevertheless, "Die Brücke" is quite impressing and has been one of the reasons for me to be a pacifist.


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User currently offlineCanyonBlue From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 14619 times:

I asked my cousin who lives in Munich about any titles, since I couldn't think of any. His response?

"Why would the German's make a movie about WWII?!!? Didn't we star in the infamous fist version?!!? Crazy american!"


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User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3682 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 14610 times:

Well, the Germans are not to blame about WW2. The nazis are, and few Germans were really Nazis.
So I think there's no reason for the Germans not to make any WW2 movie. There must be still a big confusion in people's mind in Germany about this past.

But I must say, when I saw the pictures of my German grand-uncles at perhaps 15 with nazi uniforms, I had a shock. They were just "in the system", like many other young people. That's very sad. Especially because my 3 German grand-uncles were killed during the war, some years later.

But that's true, I didn' see many German war movies.
I just remember "Das Boot".


User currently offlineTechRep From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 14605 times:

Call me crazy if you will but I was am only 35 years old. How can one hope to not repeat tragic events or learn about anything without books and movies? I think it's very important to understand both sides of any story. For years I have been bombarded with the "American Ideal" of WWII with its patriotic overtones and over glorification of war.

I find the German accounts deeply tragic and apologetic. I have learned that not every German supported the war, not every Landser was a Nazi and much of the nation was pulled in by a deeply maniacal man.

Since I worked for Dornier, an obviously German company, I found many Germans very knowledgeable about specific events but not willing to communicate. I always search out both sides, so if the German forum contributors would allow, offer your feelings on the Top 5 WWII Movies from the German perspective.

The movies don’t have to be made by Germans per say but offer the German Perspective.

TechRep


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8765 posts, RR: 42
Reply 5, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 14596 times:

TechRep, who'd call you crazy for advocating reading? I agree 100% with that point of yours.

As for the movies, I only really know "Das Boot" and "Die Brücke", I don't remember whether I've watched "Stalingrad" or not. I think I have, at least partially. However, the Germans' knowledge about WWII is most often not derived from feature films, but from ducomentary films, which are quite common here. So I think many people would have a hard time making up that list.



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User currently offlinePacificjourney From New Zealand, joined Jul 2001, 2734 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 14572 times:

Not really on topic but if this stuff interests you then check out these websites. Must be the most comprehensive I have ever seen on any subject (other than A-net of course).

http://www.feldgrau.com/

http://www.wssob.com/



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User currently offlineDc10guy From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (11 years 6 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 14563 times:

If there ever was a "Hogan's Hero's" movie I'll bet it would be at the top of the list....


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User currently offlineFDXmech From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 14550 times:

From the German perspective?

1) Tora, Tora, Tora

2) Guadalcanal Diary

3) Bridge Over the River Kwai

4) Flying Leathernecks

5) Sands of Iwo Jima

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>>> Well, the Germans are not to blame about WW2. The nazis are, and few Germans were really Nazis.
So I think there's no reason for the Germans not to make any WW2 movie. There must be still a big confusion in people's mind in Germany about this past.
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Whaaaa???



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User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 14540 times:

as a german, I find it very hard to find a WWII film good , cause we allways loose.........  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

cheers Robin



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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4696 posts, RR: 42
Reply 10, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 14525 times:

Not exactly filmed from a German perspective, but trying to be somewhat neutral in the presentation of the two war parties, "A bridge too far" and "The longest day" both also tell the story from a German perspective without diminishing the German role to one of "cannon fodder" for Robert Mitchum, Telly Savalas or Clint Eastwood.

Although those "classical" American war movies fromt he 40s and 60s, where e.g. Robert Mitchum is surrounded by 50 evil Nazis but still manages to escape unharmed (after killing all fifty Nazis with just his Colt) also have a certain charm. Big grin



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 14521 times:

Actually Robert Mitchum Was in "The Longest Day"  Big grin

I would be curious to find out what some of the folks over there think of James Mason in "The Desert Fox".


My understanding was that was ment to be a pretty close Biography.



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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 14516 times:

Winter War is a good film, not exactly about Germans but Finns allied with Germans fighting invading Soviet troops....


User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 13, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 14515 times:

No it was not....at least not where it really counts.

We had a really good retelling of the Generalfeldmarschalls life on German TV, lots or memories from the family and especially his son, who was a pretty popular politician in Germany, mayor of the city of Stuttgart (recently retired), and whose nickname in Stuttgart is "Wuestenfuechsle", which is a cute way to say something like "the little desert fox".

A lot was said about his way into Wehrmacht and his way of dealing with the Nazis, and of course the way the Nazis dealt with him, facts that are instrumental in understanding why Rommel acted how he acted.

Now the movie was never popular in Germany, it is shown occasionally on weekday late nights and holiday afternoons, when nobody sits in front of the TV really...and James Mason definitely doesn't look like Erwin at all Big grin



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 14514 times:

You know the other movie that I didn't think played the Germans in a bad light either was, "The Battle of Britian".

Any thoughts on that film.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 14512 times:

Yeah. I remember that the son was mayor of Stuttgart when I was over there.

Interesting about the Rommel movie. That is one of the films that I would consider acceptable to show in a History classroom.



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User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 16, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 14513 times:

Most films on WWII do show Germany as one entity, the bad one, and considering the unspeakable crimes certain fellow countrymen of mine committed during those thousand years, that lasted 12 years in the end, such generalization (Germany=Wehrmacht=Nazis=Mass murderers=War mongers) does hold a lot of truth unfortunately.

Now what sort of light would you shed on Germany when you really want to show the victory of your own country or the story of a victim of Germany and you got 100 minutes of time to do so? A bad one.


edit L-188: Actually it would be advisable to show that 90 minute documentation on Erwin Rommel, that one was good, and then...to show kids the way entertainment generalizes, the movie starring James Mason. THAT would be a good lesson indeed!!

[Edited 2003-06-20 13:38:37]


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 17, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 14509 times:

Well, even though I don't teach, if the world imploded and I had to take up that occupation I would consider the following War movies acceptable for educational purposes.

The Longest Day (WWII D-DAY)
Glory (US Civil War)
Tora Tora Tora (WWII Pearl Harbor)
Das Boot (WWII, Some of the Foul Language probably would prevent that though)
The Alamo (Really that is as 'Hollywood' as I think I would go)
All Quiet on the Western front (WWI)
ZULU (the ZULU war)


Of those I know I got to watch ZULU, TORA TORA TORA and Patton in history class when I went to got. I also ended up watching "All quiet on the Western Front" in English Class.






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User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 14479 times:

While not a movie....pick up a copy of "The Forgotten Soldier" A good read from a man who went into the Wermacht and fought on the Russian front. Powerfull story.

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 14455 times:

The Guns of Navrojn.


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (11 years 6 months 6 days ago) and read 14453 times:

The Guns of Navarrone.

That was a good flick, but just based on a novel.

Too bad it took 25 years to get the sequel made, "Force 10 from Navarrone"

It has been the intent to make that sequel immediately but legal and technical problems took that long to resolve.

By that time all the original players had aged too much for their roles.



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