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User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1620 times:
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I have products like a firewall and wirus scanner, but what do you feel is the best protection for a computer, for the value of your dollar?

Just wondering what you think is best for the average user.

MY friend has Norton and loves it Another I know has Mcaffee?(sp?) But what is the best to use without spedning a fortune?




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User currently offlineRalgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1593 times:

Virus scanner is more important than a firewall. Basically, all a firewall does is stop unauthorized/unknown connections from being made. It won't stop a virus in an email or file you download, so if you only get one or the other, get the virus scanner. Also, if you're not online a lot, a firewall isn't really worth it, unless it's a laptop that wanders around between different networks.


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User currently offlineBobrayner From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1586 times:

It varies according to usage patterns!

1. For an always-on machine used by somebody reasonably computer-aware, a firewall is the best place to start spending money.
Win XP has a basic free firewall, built-in; and there are limited firewalling features integrated into win 2k (but not for dialup connections, ISTR).

2. For an infrequently-online machine, or one used by somebody who has little interest in the techy stuff, then a virus scanner is a better option.

Frankly, "the best protection for a computer, for the value of your dollar" is paying more attention to good config, disabling unused services, and not clicking on every damn thing that pops up. These are all free.



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User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1577 times:
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Well, since I have win XP, should I bother with a firewall at all?

Otherwise I guess I can stick to virus scanner.

Also, what can I do to avoid spyware? And how do I know if I have any already?

Thanks Bob, that's twice tonight  Big grin google wasn't giving me the best info but you guys set me straight. Big thumbs up



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User currently offlineKAL_LM From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 497 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1570 times:

With regards to spyware, you can avoid it if you know what to look for, things like Gator, Bonzi Buddy, or anything bundled with Kazaa or other P2P apps (most are supported by spyware).

But we can't be on top of it all the time. I use Spybot S&D as my spyware app of choice which can be found here. Another choice is AdAware. While each have their quirks, they both work well. Most reviews I've read suggest using both so you are pretty well good and covered. You can get it here.

Hope this helps!

regards,
Tom



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User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1554 times:
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whilest surfing, I think on Kazaa, in the past, I saw a gator ad pop up. If I just clicked no, am I safe?

How can I be sure I do not have any stuff on here already? I have to get adware or spybot to scan and "clean" it out?



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User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4856 posts, RR: 20
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1547 times:

http://www.hbedv.com/ offers a good anti-virus program for free. If you don't want to spend money and want an acceptable firewall, try http://www.zonealarm.com. KAL_LM already posted a link to Ad-Aware, imho the best anti-spy program.

User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1544 times:
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-If I have the Windows XP firewall(how do I know if its on anyway), do I need to bother with zone alarm?

I'll look at hbedv, thanks all! I have so many dumb questions!


-SO looks like the virus scan and firewall through mcafee arent; worth it?



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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1541 times:

Yes, you need to bother.

It's always better to be safe than sorry...

ZoneAlarm on my machine has alerted around 200 intrusion attempts and portscans in the last 24 hours.

McAfee is excellent. By far the best virusscanner out there. Stay far away from any Norton software though, it's generally not as good by far and more expensive.

I've no experience with the McAfee firewall, you'd have to see for yourself.



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User currently offlineBobrayner From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1538 times:

Stay far away from any Norton software though, it's generally not as good by far and more expensive.

And all generalisations are false.  Wink/being sarcastic


Some quick ideas on securing a WinXP client:

1. Only log on with admin rights if you need them. Create a "power user" account for day-to-day use.

Why? If you accidentally run some malware, it won't have local admin rights.

2. If other people ever use the machine, create separate accounts for them. No ifs, no buts. Never delete an account when obsolete - just disable it. Also, in this scenario - or if you worry about local data being accessed by someone who steals the PC - seriously consider using EFS.

3. Have a quick look at Control Panel > Admin Tools > Local Security Policy. The range of options and setting is baffling, but you can avoid hours of study by using a readymade security template; alternate-click on Security Settings, then Import Policy. "hisecws" is most secure but also most likely to break features; "compatws" is the opposite, and "securews" is in the middle of the spectrum.

4. Go to Control Panel > Admin Tools > Services, and set the following services to "Manual" (unless you need them for something specific):

Remote Registry, Routing & Remote Access, Error Reporting Service, Print Spooler (if you don't have a printer), Secondary Logon, TCP/IP NetBIOS helper, Windows Time, WZC, ALGS, Application Management, Terminal Services (if you never need fast user switching or any kind of remote desktop).

If you're especially paranoid, and you're sure nothing is dependent on them, then set them to "Disabled".

Hope that helps!
These things are all free, and only need to be done once.  Smile



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User currently offlineRalgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1533 times:

All good advice, but you're still screwed if you download a virus that gains root through any means, even if it doesn't gain root it can still wreak havoc on what the user has access to. I still say virus scanner over firewall.


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User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1535 times:

To view the built-in firewall in XP:
START; SETTINGS; CONTROL PANEL; right click on NETWORK ADAPTERS; select the last tab (I forget what it's called) and check the box to enable firewall.

I suspect Norton Internet Security is a decent package. It gives you firewall, anti-virus, ad blocking, parental controls, and privacy controls... all in one program.

A.W.


User currently offlineBobrayner From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1530 times:

All good advice, but you're still screwed if you download a virus that gains root through any means, even if it doesn't gain root it can still wreak havoc on what the user has access to. I still say virus scanner over firewall.

Surprisingly little modern malware tries to get local admin privileges; and far less will succeed if you take some basic precautions. Ditto for trashing files.



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