Jhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6210 posts, RR: 11 Posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4484 times:
OKLAHOMA CITY (Reuters) -- An Oklahoma man arrested on suspicion of beating his wife faced year in prison and a fine. But when he spit in an arresting officer's face, he got a life sentence instead, officials said Wednesday.
John Carl Marquez, 36, was convicted of "placing bodily fluid upon a government employee," a felony that can carry a life sentence because of the possibility of transmitting a potentially deadly disease.
State judge April Sellers White sentenced Marquez this week even though Marquez and the officer tested negative for any communicable disease.
Marquez also was convicted of assaulting a police officer, and a jury recommended the maximum sentence because he had previous convictions.
Marquez, arrested several months ago, could have received one year in prison and a $3,000 fine for wife beating, according to the Creek County court clerk's office.
His lawyers said they plan to appeal.
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DesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7879 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4464 times:
The thing that bugs me about this case, is that the penalty for spitting on a cop once, in an isolated incident is FAR greater than the assault on his wife. Which was probably not a one time isolated incident.
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Hartsfieldboy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 552 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4455 times:
What makes a pussy cop, or any government employee, so special that if they are spit upon, the penalty is life? While the law is totally stupid, why isn't there a life sentence for spitting on a civilian?
KROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4307 times:
Well done Homer71, lol.
You all are missing the point. This man had previous convictions, he had done time in the joint as well. Not to mention he seems to make a hobby of kicking his wife's ass (what a guy he is). That is why with the spitting on a cop, he was recommended for the maximum punishment.
This guy just did not up and hock a lugie on a cop, all while having a clean record and such.....Its not as cut and dry as many of you would like it to me. Life for spitting on a cop...absured, life for spitting on a cop, having a previous record, with previous jail time and fines, and for being a wife beater.....let this fucker rot.
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4299 times:
KROC, it's easy to say "let him rot", simply because he's not up for sainthood, but there has to be some common sense in this process, and there's evidently none. Putting someone in prison for LIFE, should be for extremely serious offenses, and extremely serious repeat offenses-like murder, not for some two-bit felon like this guy. We don't need to be filling up our prisons for a lifetime with the likes of this man. This is just insanity, pure and simple, levied by a judge who obviously doesn't have a clue what she's doing.
Had he tested positive for a communicable disease, then I can see throwing the book at him, especially if it threatened the officers life. It didn't, and THAT is what makes this sentence bullshit. He'll win on appeal, then he'll sue the state of Oklahoma for this nonsense, and, presto, thanks to this asshole judge, we'll have created another wealthy individual.
Nice job, Judge White. Way to fuck it up, just to show the people in Oklahoma that you're a woman with balls. Maybe she can volunteer for these she-male experiment currently going on.
American_4275 From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1076 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4285 times:
Are you telling me that him spitting on a police officer was proper justification for him spending the rest of his life in jail? Yes, it sucks that he's a wife beater and has had previous convictions - he's a sleezeball. However, like the article said, he could have faced ONE YEAR in jail for the wife beating. Going from one year in jail to LIFE because of saliva is ABSURD. It's the principle of the matter, really, and not the reality of it that makes this so appalling.
KROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4285 times:
Sebolino, I'ma break it down, just for you. Watch and learn.....
1.) An Oklahoma man arrested on suspicion of beating his wife faced year in prison and a fine
2.) Marquez also was convicted of assaulting a police officer
3.) But when he spit in an arresting officer's face, he got a life sentence instead
The maximum fine for #3 wsa levied, in addition with the first 2 crimes, and in looking at his prior record, he is a known criminal. Just because something happened say a year ago that was a crime, does not mean it is gone forever. Hence the 3 strikes policy and such.
JetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 4276 times:
You don't get life in prison for spitting on a cop; let's ge that straight. KROC was right in sorting this out. The judge did not have saliva in mind when sentencing this dirtbag. She had all his priors and a bloody wife* on her mind. The spitting sentence was just a way to get him out of society because the wife-beating laws are apparently inadaquate. She 'Al Caponed' his ass.
*Translation for UK folks - 'a bloody bloody wife'
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4260 times:
Again, I find it amazing anyone can justify life in prison for what are, relatively, minor offenses. This is typical over-reaction on the part of some zealots in our judicial system, looking to score political brownie points with the naive of our society, who thinks everyone like this guy should just be locked up.
It's a sad indictment on our society when we feel the need to lock up someone like this, who is no saint, obviously, but hasn't committed any major offense, simply because people in society don't want to be bothered.
I think you'll see this idiocy overturned in another court. And while we're on the side subject, I'm surprised that no one has challenged the constitutionality on the "three strikes" law. I don't know how that would play out, but I'm surprised it hasn't happened.
: Alpha 1, I find it amazing that you think beating your freakin' wife is a MINOR offense. Get a clue.
26 Alpha 1
: KROC, put against capital muder, or 1st Degree murder, or other offenses that normally carry a life sentence or worse, it is a minor offense, and shou
: Is that what the defense should be for the next guy who is arrested for beating his wife for the upteenth time? "Well gee officer, sure I beat her ass
28 Alpha 1
: Again, KROC, I'm not trying to minimize domestic violence in this case. But for God's sake, this guy DOES NOT deserve life in prison! And you can blam
: Alpha 1. Asked an abused wife what the appropriate punishment should be. Maybe ask a cop who was assulted for doing his job waht the appropriate punis
30 Alpha 1
: KROC, if EITHER said life in prison, they're nuts. Especially the police officer.
: It all depends on the severity of the beatings and the method used to 'place bodily fluid' on a cop. The article doesn't mention the severity of the b
32 EA CO AS
: The law is the law, granted, but this is insane, just for spitting on a cop he goes to prison for life, there is ABSOLUTELY no logic in this AT ALL. 9
33 Alpha 1
: ..but I think that maximum sentence (life) of this vague charge was exploited in this case in an effort to inflict a greater punishment for the other
: Alpha 1, I understand your point of view and I'm not saying this isn't extreme. I don't know the circumstances of the beatings and priors (which is th
: Alpha 1, you clearly have never spoken to an abused wife, nor do you understand what happens to a spouse that is abused in this way. Yeah, one is nuts
: Anyone who beats their wife DESERVES to rot in prison! Bubba will LOVE having him as a roomate. I agree, the F****R got what he deserved!
: Well, "they" gave Al Capone a big-timer on income tax evasion instead of multiple murder charges. Past records always (and) should be one of the facto
38 Alpha 1
: Wrong, Jack. If you're being charged with a specific crime, I don't see how a judge has the right or the ability to pass a sentence on things not rela
: Alpha1, I hope this does not come thru as a "dual reply"...I lost connection in prev. reply. I do not disagree with you that this sentence will probab
: lol I thought this was tongue in cheek humour, oh well
: Of course prior crimes should factor into sentences, just as a lack of prior crimes should factor in on the side of leniency (suspending the prison te
: If he had had enough money to hire a good enough lawyer to get him off the hook......then he would be walking the streets......just like this guy.....
: Marcus...why would you post a mugshot of Jesse Jackson? ...Jack
: This is so stupid and embarrassing. America must seem like such a joke to the rest of the world.
: Life for spitting on a police officer! Horrible. -UN
: Life in prison, IMO, is cruel and unusual punishment in this case, and thus violates the constitution. Spitting on a cop should carry maybe a maximum
: Jhopper, even certain felonies are exempt from the three stikes law. I think the first two have to be violent felonies while the third is any. Also, I
48 Alpha 1
: Whatever our point of view on this one, I think there's a terrific chance this idiotic sentence will be reduced on appeal. I don't think he'll be let
: Alpha 1, I'd wager the fact that the guy is a convicted rapist, broke the woman's arm, then resisted by spitting-on and biting the cop while in custod
: Whilst I am fully behind the viewpoint that serial offenders should be punished, I am extremely uneasy that some of you wish for an excessive punishme
: Banco, I agree with you that priors shouldn't be used in a trial because it can make the jury bias, but there is no indication that that happened here
: Some people can kill without getting a life sentence. Now that's whack.
: EA CO AS: Yeah, he probably should have just been caned instead, right? A less harsh sentence(let's say 2 years) would have sufficed. 9V-SVA