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Man Gets Life In Prison For Spitting On Cop  
User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6199 posts, RR: 12
Posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3428 times:

OKLAHOMA CITY (Reuters) -- An Oklahoma man arrested on suspicion of beating his wife faced year in prison and a fine. But when he spit in an arresting officer's face, he got a life sentence instead, officials said Wednesday.

John Carl Marquez, 36, was convicted of "placing bodily fluid upon a government employee," a felony that can carry a life sentence because of the possibility of transmitting a potentially deadly disease.

State judge April Sellers White sentenced Marquez this week even though Marquez and the officer tested negative for any communicable disease.

Marquez also was convicted of assaulting a police officer, and a jury recommended the maximum sentence because he had previous convictions.

Marquez, arrested several months ago, could have received one year in prison and a $3,000 fine for wife beating, according to the Creek County court clerk's office.

His lawyers said they plan to appeal.



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User currently offlineNWA742 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3424 times:

"placing bodily fluid upon a government employee," a felony that can carry a life sentence because of the possibility of transmitting a potentially deadly disease.

The law's the law, and he gets what he deserves.

Let the asshole rot in jail for all I care.  Insane



-NWA742


User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3422 times:

I highly doubt it's even legal to get life in prison for spitting on the cop.

To me, it seems like something is missing.

FB05

I am glad he got punished for what he did.



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User currently offlineFloris From Netherlands, joined Jun 2003, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3414 times:

This doesn't make sense. I agree, something must be missing, or you can all spit in my face  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7737 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3408 times:

The thing that bugs me about this case, is that the penalty for spitting on a cop once, in an isolated incident is FAR greater than the assault on his wife. Which was probably not a one time isolated incident.


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User currently offlineHartsfieldboy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 552 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3399 times:

What makes a pussy cop, or any government employee, so special that if they are spit upon, the penalty is life? While the law is totally stupid, why isn't there a life sentence for spitting on a civilian?

User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3382 times:

I share similar sentiments as DesertJets and Hartsfieldboy - The lop-sided sentencing is disgraceful.

a.w.


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3365 times:

I guess the judge didn't agree with the maximum sentence he could pass on the main crimes in the case and decided to invoke an obscure law in order to get the sentence he wanted.

Excellent judgement.

And might lead some people to be more courteous to cops, something that's sorely needed from reading threads here about encounters people have with them...



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User currently onlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29705 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3362 times:

Doesn't Oklahoma have a three strikes law?


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User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3363 times:

Good point. I don't know. Does it?

a.w.


User currently offline9V-SVA From Singapore, joined Aug 2001, 1860 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3319 times:

The law is the law, granted, but this is insane, just for spitting on a cop he goes to prison for life, there is ABSOLUTELY no logic in this AT ALL.

9V-SVA



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User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3675 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3315 times:

This is stupid. As far as I know, the USA aren't an islamic republic. One doesn't spend a life in prison for such a minor thing (I hope).

And then you always find moralists to say they're glad, the law's the law, blabla ...


User currently offlineGotAirbus From Singapore, joined May 2001, 851 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3298 times:

Say no more...

Here comes the "Fast-food restaurants are bad" lawsuits.




Uh...question, not criticism: Why not check to see whether the "government employee" actually contracted any disease before giving him life imprisonment??

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User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3291 times:

Why don't they sit him on the electric chair or send him into the gas chamber? Damn, it's too liberal out there!  Pissed

Regards
Udo


User currently offlineHomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2240 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3267 times:

What's wrong with spitting on an authority figure?

Sincerely,

Roberto Alomar



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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3254 times:

LIFE IN PRISON, for spitting? What kind of over-reaction is that.

And NWA742, you REALLY want your tax money going to support the imprisonment of this person FOR LIFE-FOR SPITTING.

Obviously, he had no disease which to transmit to the officer, so why the hell over-react like this. Is this the kind of judges we get in the southwest and the south, who do garbage like this?

I can see this one being overturned by an appeals court that lives in the real world, unlike this idiot judge.

Those of you who support such luacy are so far removed from reality, that it's not even funny. What a sad day for the criminal justice system, when this can happen.


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8617 posts, RR: 43
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3253 times:

He could have infected the policeman: He didn't! There's even a difference between murder and attempted murder, isn't it?

And why are some folks happy to see their tax dollars wasted on some bloke's state pen accomodation?



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User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3251 times:

Well done Homer71, lol.

You all are missing the point. This man had previous convictions, he had done time in the joint as well. Not to mention he seems to make a hobby of kicking his wife's ass (what a guy he is). That is why with the spitting on a cop, he was recommended for the maximum punishment.

This guy just did not up and hock a lugie on a cop, all while having a clean record and such.....Its not as cut and dry as many of you would like it to me. Life for spitting on a cop...absured, life for spitting on a cop, having a previous record, with previous jail time and fines, and for being a wife beater.....let this fucker rot.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3243 times:

KROC, it's easy to say "let him rot", simply because he's not up for sainthood, but there has to be some common sense in this process, and there's evidently none. Putting someone in prison for LIFE, should be for extremely serious offenses, and extremely serious repeat offenses-like murder, not for some two-bit felon like this guy. We don't need to be filling up our prisons for a lifetime with the likes of this man. This is just insanity, pure and simple, levied by a judge who obviously doesn't have a clue what she's doing.

Had he tested positive for a communicable disease, then I can see throwing the book at him, especially if it threatened the officers life. It didn't, and THAT is what makes this sentence bullshit. He'll win on appeal, then he'll sue the state of Oklahoma for this nonsense, and, presto, thanks to this asshole judge, we'll have created another wealthy individual.

Nice job, Judge White. Way to fuck it up, just to show the people in Oklahoma that you're a woman with balls. Maybe she can volunteer for these she-male experiment currently going on.


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3239 times:

So beating one's wife (repeatedly) is not a serious offense? Way to bring us back to the stoneage Alpha 1.

User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3675 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3232 times:

So beating one's wife (repeatedly) is not a serious offense? Way to bring us back to the stoneage Alpha 1

1) He was not judged for that, why are you using that ?
2) You don't get a life in prison for such kind of things, I can't believe it.


User currently offlineAmerican_4275 From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1076 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3229 times:

KROC,
Are you telling me that him spitting on a police officer was proper justification for him spending the rest of his life in jail? Yes, it sucks that he's a wife beater and has had previous convictions - he's a sleezeball. However, like the article said, he could have faced ONE YEAR in jail for the wife beating. Going from one year in jail to LIFE because of saliva is ABSURD. It's the principle of the matter, really, and not the reality of it that makes this so appalling.

American_4275


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3229 times:

Sebolino, I'ma break it down, just for you. Watch and learn.....

1.) An Oklahoma man arrested on suspicion of beating his wife faced year in prison and a fine
2.) Marquez also was convicted of assaulting a police officer
3.) But when he spit in an arresting officer's face, he got a life sentence instead

The maximum fine for #3 wsa levied, in addition with the first 2 crimes, and in looking at his prior record, he is a known criminal. Just because something happened say a year ago that was a crime, does not mean it is gone forever. Hence the 3 strikes policy and such.


User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3220 times:

You don't get life in prison for spitting on a cop; let's ge that straight. KROC was right in sorting this out. The judge did not have saliva in mind when sentencing this dirtbag. She had all his priors and a bloody wife* on her mind. The spitting sentence was just a way to get him out of society because the wife-beating laws are apparently inadaquate. She 'Al Caponed' his ass.

*Translation for UK folks - 'a bloody bloody wife'



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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3204 times:

Again, I find it amazing anyone can justify life in prison for what are, relatively, minor offenses. This is typical over-reaction on the part of some zealots in our judicial system, looking to score political brownie points with the naive of our society, who thinks everyone like this guy should just be locked up.

It's a sad indictment on our society when we feel the need to lock up someone like this, who is no saint, obviously, but hasn't committed any major offense, simply because people in society don't want to be bothered.

I think you'll see this idiocy overturned in another court. And while we're on the side subject, I'm surprised that no one has challenged the constitutionality on the "three strikes" law. I don't know how that would play out, but I'm surprised it hasn't happened.


25 KROC : Alpha 1, I find it amazing that you think beating your freakin' wife is a MINOR offense. Get a clue.
26 Alpha 1 : KROC, put against capital muder, or 1st Degree murder, or other offenses that normally carry a life sentence or worse, it is a minor offense, and shou
27 KROC : Is that what the defense should be for the next guy who is arrested for beating his wife for the upteenth time? "Well gee officer, sure I beat her ass
28 Alpha 1 : Again, KROC, I'm not trying to minimize domestic violence in this case. But for God's sake, this guy DOES NOT deserve life in prison! And you can blam
29 KROC : Alpha 1. Asked an abused wife what the appropriate punishment should be. Maybe ask a cop who was assulted for doing his job waht the appropriate punis
30 Alpha 1 : KROC, if EITHER said life in prison, they're nuts. Especially the police officer.
31 JetService : It all depends on the severity of the beatings and the method used to 'place bodily fluid' on a cop. The article doesn't mention the severity of the b
32 Post contains images EA CO AS : The law is the law, granted, but this is insane, just for spitting on a cop he goes to prison for life, there is ABSOLUTELY no logic in this AT ALL. 9
33 Alpha 1 : ..but I think that maximum sentence (life) of this vague charge was exploited in this case in an effort to inflict a greater punishment for the other
34 JetService : Alpha 1, I understand your point of view and I'm not saying this isn't extreme. I don't know the circumstances of the beatings and priors (which is th
35 KROC : Alpha 1, you clearly have never spoken to an abused wife, nor do you understand what happens to a spouse that is abused in this way. Yeah, one is nuts
36 CanyonBlue : Anyone who beats their wife DESERVES to rot in prison! Bubba will LOVE having him as a roomate. I agree, the F****R got what he deserved!
37 Cptkrell : Well, "they" gave Al Capone a big-timer on income tax evasion instead of multiple murder charges. Past records always (and) should be one of the facto
38 Alpha 1 : Wrong, Jack. If you're being charged with a specific crime, I don't see how a judge has the right or the ability to pass a sentence on things not rela
39 Cptkrell : Alpha1, I hope this does not come thru as a "dual reply"...I lost connection in prev. reply. I do not disagree with you that this sentence will probab
40 Post contains images EGGD : lol I thought this was tongue in cheek humour, oh well
41 JetService : Of course prior crimes should factor into sentences, just as a lack of prior crimes should factor in on the side of leniency (suspending the prison te
42 Post contains images Marcus : If he had had enough money to hire a good enough lawyer to get him off the hook......then he would be walking the streets......just like this guy.....
43 Cptkrell : Marcus...why would you post a mugshot of Jesse Jackson? ...Jack
44 Kevi747 : This is so stupid and embarrassing. America must seem like such a joke to the rest of the world.
45 UN_B732 : Life for spitting on a police officer! Horrible. -UN
46 Jhooper : Life in prison, IMO, is cruel and unusual punishment in this case, and thus violates the constitution. Spitting on a cop should carry maybe a maximum
47 JetService : Jhopper, even certain felonies are exempt from the three stikes law. I think the first two have to be violent felonies while the third is any. Also, I
48 Alpha 1 : Whatever our point of view on this one, I think there's a terrific chance this idiotic sentence will be reduced on appeal. I don't think he'll be let
49 JetService : Alpha 1, I'd wager the fact that the guy is a convicted rapist, broke the woman's arm, then resisted by spitting-on and biting the cop while in custod
50 Banco : Whilst I am fully behind the viewpoint that serial offenders should be punished, I am extremely uneasy that some of you wish for an excessive punishme
51 JetService : Banco, I agree with you that priors shouldn't be used in a trial because it can make the jury bias, but there is no indication that that happened here
52 Buckfifty : Some people can kill without getting a life sentence. Now that's whack.
53 9V-SVA : EA CO AS: Yeah, he probably should have just been caned instead, right? A less harsh sentence(let's say 2 years) would have sufficed. 9V-SVA
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