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Pat Robertson, At It AGain  
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1456 times:

Brought to you from that same religious lunatic that claims he prayed a Hurricane away from the Carolina coast a few years back.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030715/ap_on_go_su_co/brf_robertson_supreme_court_1

Robertson Calls for Justices' Retirement
Mon Jul 14,11:48 PM ET


VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. - Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson urged his nationwide audience Monday to pray for God to remove three justices from the Supreme Court so they could be replaced by conservatives.



"We ask for miracles in regard to the Supreme Court," Robertson said on the Christian Broadcasting Network's "The 700 Club."


Robertson has launched a 21-day "prayer offensive" directed at the Supreme Court in the wake of its 6-3 June vote that decriminalized sodomy. Robertson said in a letter on the CBN Web site that the ruling "has opened the door to homosexual marriage, bigamy, legalized prostitution and even incest."


The same letter targets three justices in particular: "One justice is 83-years-old, another has cancer and another has a heart condition. Would it not be possible for God to put it in the minds of these three judges that the time has come to retire?"


Judging from the descriptions, Robertson was referring to Justice John Paul Stevens (news - web sites), who was born in 1920, and Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg (news - web sites), who had colon cancer surgery in 1999. The identity of the third justice was unclear.
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I guess, with prayer, ANYTHING is possible-especilly when you need to raise more money in the Name of God. This guy is such an embarrassment.


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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1441 times:

Par for the course, yet again. He is nothing more than a publicity hound. He is one of the more dangerous members of the Religious Right here in the US. Had he'd been successful in his Presidental campaign back in the 1980s, America would be living in a new Puritainical era. Most of these televangelists are nothing more than modern-day versions of the tent revival minister, who gets support through fear (the old Fire and Brimstone).

User currently offlineSchoenorama From Spain, joined Apr 2001, 2440 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1437 times:

Alpha 1:

Welcome back!

" The same letter targets three justices in particular: "One justice is 83-years-old, another has cancer and another has a heart condition. Would it not be possible for God to put it in the minds of these three judges that the time has come to retire?""

That's a way to go for a 'good Christian'! Instead of praying to God to cure the cancer and the heart condition, he prays to God so these three die.

"When I said during my presidential bid that I would only bring Christians and Jews into the government, I hit a firestorm. `What do you mean?' the media challenged me. `You're not going to bring atheists into the government? How dare you maintain that those who believe in the Judeo-Christian values are better qualified to govern America than Hindus and Muslims?' My simple answer is, `Yes, they are.'"
(from Pat Robertson's "The New World Order," page 218.)

Scary.

Here's some more 'great' Robertson quotes:

"Many of those people involved with Adolph Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals--the two things seem to go together."

Completely wrong and scary.

"I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period."

Incredible, although Osama bin Laden probably agrees with him!



Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!
User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8143 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1441 times:

Is this the guy that said 9/11 was because of the gays and lesbians?


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User currently offlineBobrayner From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1419 times:

That was Falwell, although Robertson agreed.
ISTR they both hastily withdrew their comments in the following mediastorm.



Cunning linguist
User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1416 times:

Actually it looks like 1-2 justices will be retiring during Bush's term in office to make sure their replacements are Conservatives.


"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
User currently offlineGoingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1403 times:

When I read the article, it came accross that Robertson was asking God to let these justices die. That struck me as a bit "un-Christianlike".

User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1398 times:

I pray that Robertson gets run over by a bus or Mac Trusk. He can take his pick.

User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8143 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1393 times:

"When I read the article, it came accross that Robertson was asking God to let these justices die. That struck me as a bit 'un-Christianlike'."

Sure, but W is always going on about Jesus (as though 'Jesus' is an oil-producing nation), but I want to know Jesus' position on bombing civilians.



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User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1385 times:

These guys are just one step away from Osama Bin-Ladin...and it is very small step: Both have a completely perverted picture of God in their sick minds and both obviously do not care about human life...only OBL is quite a few lives ahead in the statistics.

Therefore: To get rid of this scum I guess any which way is good enough...as long as it works!



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User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

Jesus's stance on bombed civilians is that he loves each and every one of them. Let's try to be more mature and leave nonsense such as Jesus's views on things to the side. I can in return ask, what is Jesus's views on the Muslim radicalists who flew planes into civilian buildings?


"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1372 times:

Now if this had come from someone on the left most in this thread would be singing their praises. However since it was someone on the right, they must be attacked and vilified. Last time I checked Pat Robertson still has the right to say whatever he wants, just like everyone else in the United States. I wonder if you would be saying the same thing about what the idiot leader of the NAA(L)CP said during their recent meeting?

Robertson says the things he does, however childish and stupid they may be, because he knows it will get a rise out of the left.

Personally though, I wish he would shut up. He does a disservice to those who call themselves Christians. However, if you want him to be silenced, then be prepared to shut up too. Freedom of Speech applies to everyone or to no one.

From the Liberal Dictionary:

Freedom of Speech- When a liberal is talking

Hate Speech- When a Republican, Conservative, or Christian is talking



"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineAndreas From Germany, joined Oct 2001, 6104 posts, RR: 31
Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1371 times:

CX747: That is exactly the point...there is no difference!!


I know it's only VfB but I like it!
User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8143 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1352 times:

"Let's try to be more mature and leave nonsense such as Jesus's views on things to the side."

Try telling that to the religion-crazed nuts in the White House! What the hell is a prayer breakfast? "Forgive us Lord, for we know not what we do."

[Edited 2003-07-15 17:34:51]


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User currently offlineSchoenorama From Spain, joined Apr 2001, 2440 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1346 times:

B757300:

"Now if this had come from someone on the left most in this thread would be singing their praises."

I still have to meet the first 'lefty' to say the stupidities Pat Robertson says!

"However since it was someone on the right, they must be attacked and vilified."

This man's general political standing really isn't the issue here. What really is important is that what he says generally is identified as (extreme) right-wing opinions, and its these opinions that should be attacked, not the man himself.

"Last time I checked Pat Robertson still has the right to say whatever he wants, just like everyone else in the United States."

Unless you're anti-war, anti-Bush and pro-Palestinians (not necessarily in that order or at the same time).

"Robertson says the things he does, however childish and stupid they may be, because he knows it will get a rise out of the left."

Wrong. He says it because he knows there are other people that think exactly the same way but are afraid to say so. He also has his own 'hidden agenda' which in a great way influences what he says and does (just like some other republicans, BTW):

"In recent days, Robertson has used his nationally broadcast television show to charge that the U.S. government has sought to destabilize Liberia and oust President Charles Taylor. Although Taylor is a brutal dictator under indictment for war crimes by the United Nations, he is a business partner of Robertson." (http://www.au.org/press/pr030708.htm)

From the Republican Encyclopedia:

Freedom of Speech: --> See Patriot Act I





PS Why don't you just blame Clinton, like you always do?



Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!
User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1346 times:

OH YES THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SMASHING AN AIRPLANE INTO A CIVILIAN BUILDING and accidentally bombing civilians during a war.

A prayer breakfast is when you get together with other Christians etc and eat breakfast. You pray about different things that you need help with etc. The United States is a Chrisitian Nation founded on Judeo-Christian principals by Judeo-Christian men. There is nothing unusual about what the President is doing. Last time I checked it said "IN GOD WE TRUST" on every piece of United States currency.



"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1332 times:

"Now if this had come from someone on the left most in this thread would be singing their praises. "

We on the so-called left don't send out prayer missives asking for Justices of the Supreme Court to be struck by lightning. Therein lies the difference.

"Hate Speech- When a Republican, Conservative, or Christian is talking"

The usual BS whining from Right-wing hate-spewing dittoheads. Its getting boring now. But, if it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it is a duck. When Strom, Trent and their buddies call people n*ggers and f*gs, when the religious right calls for pogroms against homosexuals, when a teenager is beaten by homophobic thugs and left to die, then it is hate speech. You may consider that doing God's work, but for the rest of us in contemporary American society, that kind of behavior is worthy of contempt. So, no one is stopping you from calling other people invectives, but you will appear to be a hate-mongerer if you do. Like everyone else in America, you're free to exercise your first amendment rights, but like everyone else in America your words are up for societal judgment as well.

"The United States is a Chrisitian Nation founded on Judeo-Christian principals by Judeo-Christian men."

Sorry. Nowhere does it say that the United States is a Christian nation. Its a nation with freedom of religion, which allows the President to practice his faith, as well as the rest of us to be free from religious impositions by the Government. Learn to live with the accomodating and complicated provisions of the Constitution.


User currently offlineBobrayner From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1324 times:

The United States is a Chrisitian Nation founded on Judeo-Christian principals by Judeo-Christian men. There is nothing unusual about what the President is doing. Last time I checked it said "IN GOD WE TRUST" on every piece of United States currency

However, I just had a look at the constitution, and the only mention of anything connected to religion is in the first amendment, surely?

We could argue about the boundary all day; suffice it to say that there's a grey area, and the Bush administration is happy to go deep into that grey area with faith-based initiatives and such.



Cunning linguist
User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1323 times:

Again, the United States was founded on Judeo-Christian principals by Judeo Christian men and continues to follow that track today with few deviations. You are free from religous persecution here in the United States, but that does not mean that the overall country as a whole is not Christian. Watch Congress every morning. Before they open the floor their is a morning prayer. Almost every sitting President goes to the same church every Sunday morning and I can't remember a President not ending a speech with "God Bless America".


"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
User currently offlineBobrayner From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1300 times:

What are your opinions on this Bush (Sr) quote?
No, I don't know that Atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God
 Big grin



Cunning linguist
User currently offlineBobrayner From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1291 times:

Anyway, here's another Pat Robertson quote, just because he's an easy target.  Smile

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians."



Cunning linguist
User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8143 posts, RR: 54
Reply 21, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1279 times:

Ha ha! A nation free of religious persecution, but George The First says an atheist isn't a citizen or a patriot? Are you KIDDING?! No wonder the Bush family get on so well with the Bin Ladens, and were so willing to do business with the Taliban.

[Edited 2003-07-15 20:57:54]


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User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 22, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1275 times:

Pat Robertson gives a bad name to Republicans (although his political views are more inline with the Reform party) and Protestants. That being said, he has the right to say whatever he wants, and we have the right to criticize him for it. I find it funny that you are all piling on B757300 because he affirmed Robertson's right to free speech, when he plainly said, "Pat Robertson gives a bad name to Christians." You are all ready to pounce on someone who believes what Pat is saying is right, tough shit, no one does. Everyone thinks he's a nutjob. Robertson has a right to say whatever he wants, and if you dont believe that, well then, you ought to reevaluate your views toward democracy.

"Last time I checked Pat Robertson still has the right to say whatever he wants, just like everyone else in the United States."

Unless you're anti-war, anti-Bush and pro-Palestinians (not necessarily in that order or at the same time).

Are you sure about that, slingblade? I want to hear about how Bush has cracked down on anti-war demonstrations. Tell me about the thousands rounded up while protesting and thrown in prison.

btw: Launch customer Condor is currently parking their B757300s to rest in the desert...what does that tell you?

Ummm, that Condor is unhappy with the 757300? That was an awful comeback....

when a teenager is beaten by homophobic thugs and left to die, then it is hate speech. You may consider that doing God's work,

Can you quote somebody on that? Or are you just making an overly emotional plea, again?

When Strom, Trent and their buddies call people n*ggers and f*gs

How about when Robert Byrd did the same thing? It goes both ways, chief. What about when Cynthia McKinney, Kwazi Mfume, or Carol Mosely-Braun blame the societal ills of black America on the whites?

This nation is one of Judeo-Christian beliefs...ask 70% of the American people if you dont believe me.

Jaysit, why are you so angry all the time? It always seems youre bitter about something...







America's chickens are coming home to rooooost!
User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13229 posts, RR: 77
Reply 23, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1250 times:

Thank f*** most of the loopy, swivel eyed, pain in the arse puritans left for the 'New World'.
You were welcome to them, and their descendents.
(But at least the originals had a proper work ethic, rather than screwing money out of the gullible, dumb and inbred with their hate filled TV channels as happens today).


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1218 times:

"when a teenager is beaten by homophobic thugs and left to die, then it is hate speech. You may consider that doing God's work,

Can you quote somebody on that? Or are you just making an overly emotional plea, again?"

Duh. Ever hear of Fred Phelps? Ever heard of Jerry Fallwells comments about lynching homosexuals in the 80s? Or were you too busy watching cartoons?

"Jaysit, why are you so angry all the time? It always seems youre bitter about something..."

LOL. Not bitter. Just amused by the DUH factor displayed by folks who can't even get a FedEx receipt right and bay on airliners.net for help on such a basic task.

"What about when Cynthia McKinney, Kwazi Mfume, or Carol Mosely-Braun blame the societal ills of black America on the whites?"

LOL. Ever heard of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation? Its called history. Do they teach that in Texas? Or do they not go beyond FedEx 101?


25 Alpha 1 : I certainly don't deny Robertson's right, Jcs17, to make a complete ass out of himself, and I will defend his right to do. Problem iwth people like B7
26 Jcs17 : Duh. Ever hear of Fred Phelps? Ever heard of Jerry Fallwells comments about lynching homosexuals in the 80s? Or were you too busy watching cartoons? W
27 Post contains images 727LOVER : He's the rudest poster on a.net?????? Hardly! Why Jcs17, do you have a disrespected users list? Can't YOU accept other people's opinions or does evero
28 Post contains images Jcs17 : Why Jcs17, do you have a disrespected users list? Can't YOU accept other people's opinions or does everone HAVE to agree w/ you. Please note that the
29 Donder10 : Jcs17,I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are a mere joker.
30 MD-90 : I don't trust any preacher that you see on national television. Christianity wasn't meant to be exploited by so-called pastors who whip up their masse
31 Kevi747 : What's really scary to me is how many Americans follow creepy freaks like Pat Robertson. I'd like to think that its just a matter of numbers. With a n
32 Post contains images Alpha 1 : MD-90, I'm beginning to like you more and more.
33 Jaysit : "Besides this, I mean, why dont you go after the Muslim faith and their leaders for being completely unaccepting to homosexuality." Because, duh, I me
34 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Besides this, I mean, why dont you go after the Muslim faith and their leaders for being completely unaccepting to homosexuality. Because they don't h
35 Post contains links MD-90 : I seriously doubt that Falwell has an ear with the president. You want to see desperate? Go watch TBN and see the masses crowding around to hear charl
36 Airlinelover : Hmm.. Wonder if any relation to known sick pedophile, Neil.. Hmmm.. Chris
37 I LOVE EWR : I am not a religious person at all, however as a conservative its the likes of Pat Robertson and others like him that I PRAY would just shut up. He is
38 Shamrock1Heavy : Jcs17- On March 20th 2003 (my birthday I may add) I was arrested for protesting and thrown in jail, Along with around 2000 other people So don't gimmi
39 Dc10guy : Pat Robertson is a Republican. Republicans support him, he supports the Republicans. He is one of the best reasons why I will always vote Democrat.
40 Post contains images Boeing4ever : Pat Robertson is a Republican. Republicans support him, he supports the Republicans. He is one of the best reasons why I will always vote Democrat. It
41 Dc10guy : Generalize ? Saying Pat Robertson is a republican is a fact. Whether you want to support him or not when you vote for a republican you vote for people
42 Boeing4ever : Whether you want to support him or not when you vote for a republican you vote for people that support his views ... Why all the personal attacks Boei
43 Jcs17 : Jcs17- On March 20th 2003 (my birthday I may add) I was arrested for protesting and thrown in jail, Along with around 2000 other people So don't gimmi
44 Alpha 1 : Ummm, $50 says you were doing something illegal. Ummm, $50 says he was just rounded up, like many anti-war protestors were before the war for no parti
45 Johnboy : Regarding the more notorious televangelists like Benny Hinn, etc. I have a close relative who does accounting work for several "nonprofit" (wink, wink
46 Galaxy5 : Geez, why can't robertson go away and live under a rock somewhere. He should move to France along with Aleck Baldwin, Madonna, Martin Sheen, alan alda
47 Cedarjet : Boeing 4 Ever, you're HILARIOUS! "Doesn't make you look to bright." Don't you mean, "Doesn't make you look TOO bright?" I wouldn't normally pull someo
48 Jcs17 : There was a huge crackdown on anti-war protestors, and the overwhelming majority did nothing but make their voice heard-I know that Ashcroft thinks th
49 Triscl : In New York, the numbers for the protests were all over the map. I haven't done any serious studying but it seemed to me that the numbers thrown out b
50 Shamrock1Heavy : I was rounded up, in a firestorm of police, VIDEOTAPING US.
51 Post contains images JBirdAV8r : I don't trust any preacher that you see on national television. Christianity wasn't meant to be exploited by so-called pastors who whip up their masse
52 JBirdAV8r : Shamrock1Heavy, if I may add...march 20 is my bday too!
53 Dc10guy : I think that we should all learn from 9-11-01 to the present that religion is the problem NOT the answer. Religion is all about power, control & hate.
54 Bobrayner : I think that we should all learn from 9-11-01 to the present that religion is the problem NOT the answer. Agreed so far... Religion is all about power
55 Alpha 1 : Religion is all about power, control & hate. Maybe it is for YOU, DC10guy, but for hundreds of millions, it's a way for many to find peace and some un
56 Dc10guy : Alpha 1, Religion is an industry. Millions of people are their customers. Religion has been used to humble the masses for hundreds of years. It plays
57 Post contains images Boeing4ever : I wouldn't normally pull someone up on such a small spelling mistake but when it's in a sentence knocking someone else's intelligence, it's got to be
58 Jhooper : I'm personally glad that sodomy laws have been found unconstitutional. Not necessarily because I think it's right or appropriate behavior, but because
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