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Saddam's Sons Likely Killed In Firefight  
User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 22
Posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2537 times:

We all remember during the war how the media sometimes got reports wrong in the rush to be the first to report things but this time lets hope they're right.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/07/22/sprj.irq.sons/index.html

http://www.msnbc.com/news/870749.asp?0cv=CA01

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,92591,00.html


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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13594 posts, RR: 61
Reply 1, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2468 times:
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this time lets hope they're right

I'm certainly keeping my fingers crossed!



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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2458 times:

Uday is such a thug, it would be preferable to have caught him alive.




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User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7957 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2414 times:

I'm "reasonably certain" to have heard the best news since weeks.


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User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4695 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

How many times have they been killed before?
Let's hope they now have used up their seventh life...



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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2404 times:

I think that the media has it right this time. I was watching FOX News and the building where the firefight was was just decimated. I think that our military got this one down pat, and we won't have to deal with two more aces in the deck of cards any more.

Jeff


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2407 times:

We finally got the garbage. CENTCOM has now confirmed it.

http://www.centcom.mil/CENTCOMNews/news_release.asp?NewsRelease=20030768.txt



"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7957 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

Pentagon CONFIRMS dead of Saddam's sons, N24 says.



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16865 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2384 times:

I happened to be watching a documentary about Saddams sons (mostly Udday) on the History Channel last night, this guy was a monster with no care for human life.

The stories recounted by exiled Iraqi Olympic Atheletes is very applaling, this guy (udday) was rediculously evil.



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User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

Jeff: FOX is no news, just wanted to make it clear...

For the rest, bush must be glad they FINALLY killed SOMEBODY carrying the name 'Hussein'  Big grin


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2360 times:

For the rest, bush must be glad they FINALLY killed SOMEBODY carrying the name 'Hussein'

Very true!

Patrick


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 42
Reply 11, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2353 times:

And finally, a good thing has happened in Iraq since they tore down that statue!


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User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

On a related note:

Wasn't Saddam killed 3 times?  Big grin

FB05



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User currently offlineStretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2568 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2329 times:

Good riddance that these two animals are apparently gone. They need to find Saddam, cut off his head, and pit it on a post in central Baghdad. Then maybe the rest of those Saddam "loyalists" will get the picture.


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User currently offlineApathoid From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2294 times:

One can only hope they suffered immensely before American soldiers sent them to hell...

User currently offlineIwantaBBJ From Switzerland, joined Jun 2002, 776 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2288 times:
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Well, if all I've heard about 'em is true, then yes, it's good that they're gone...

And yes, Apathoid, I'm hoping the same as you...



User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2286 times:

Good news finally from Iraq! I've wanted the two thug sons of Saddam killed more than Saddam himself.

I've heard some messed up stories about Uday after watching a specials about the two sons last night on the History channel. This ass hole raped a girl on her wedding night and took her from the hands of her new husband to rape her!

Hopefully this is true and it looks like it is. Let's home Saddam is next!


User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 17, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2261 times:

Info removed from cnn, so link no longer active

Jeremy

[Edited 2003-07-23 00:07:40]

User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 42
Reply 18, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2229 times:

It seems very true, I've read (on http://www.spiegel.de/) that they have been killed together with two other Iraqis, of which one is believed to have been the 14-year-old son of one of them (info no longer available on the website). They also report/reported that the bodies had been identified by several persons, by DNA test and by examining old bullet wounds. I guess we can believe it!


Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2211 times:

must be a relieve for many Iraqis, no risc anymore of Uday one day returning to power ....

if only half is truth of what we heard about him no one will miss him.

hopefully some leads to papa ...


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 42
Reply 20, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2203 times:

One thing about their loving and caring daddy: Wouldn't it be better if he was captured and sentenced to life in prison? And with that, I mean a dark solitary cell, no visits, no books, no music, no personal contact, no whatever-might-make-life-better-than-hell. At least to me, that would seem more of a punishment than being shot in a gunfight; and it wouldn't make a hero (in anyone's eyes) out of him.


Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineBobrayner From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2190 times:

If you want gruesome punishments, then how are you better than the original perpetrators?

If they died in a firefight, good. If they were captured and just locked up, also good. If you want gratuitous Really Bad Things to happen even though that won't undo any of their terrible deeds or make anything better - that sounds more like malice than justice.

Oops, flamebait again  Smile



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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 42
Reply 22, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2177 times:

Nope, Bob, not flamebait. It's just that you don't know what I consider the borderline for punishment.

For example, I would never wish anyone to get raped, or killed, or abused, or severly injured. I also object calling any human being "scum" or the like. The reason why I wrote reply #20 is that I thought about punishment for extremely dangerous and malicious persons, like Saddam Hussein. In an environment like the one I tried to describe he would get an idea of what most people think of him (they hate him), and maybe realize what he's being punished for. After a long period of time, his situation might be improved slowly and perhaps gradually, but he should never be allowed close contact with other persons.

Would that harm him mentally? Perhaps yes, perhaps not - at least it wouldn't be a philanthropist's mind that would get harmed.

The least an eventual trial against Saddam Hussein should provide is some sort of (delayed) gratification for his victims and their loved ones. I don't think that could be achieved by letting him die honourably, like a soldier, in a gunfight.



Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2171 times:

That is outstanding news-two scumbags of the earth eradicated. That is welcome news.

But again, it's NOT why we were told we went to war? Where are the weapons? The nuke research? The Al Qaeda operatives? As elated as I am to see these two bastards taken out, it's tempered by those continuing questions.


User currently offlineGalaxy5 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2034 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2160 times:

Its great news those two are dead and gone, its also great to she that a Shi'ite cleric was the one to turn them in. They also discovered $50,000,000 worth of US and German currency with them along with intel on the current guerilla leaders causing so much trouble there now. They should give the Cleric $15,000,000 out of the $50 mil they found that would save the US tax payer the cost. Now we need to move forward get Saddam, Usama and find those WMDs.


"damn, I didnt know prince could Ball like that" - Charlie Murphy
25 Aloges : "Now we need to move forward get Saddam, ..." Yep! "... Usama ..." whereever he may be... "... and find those WMDs." Good luck, it'll be needed.
26 Post contains images Yyz717 : Good riddance that these two animals are apparently gone. They need to find Saddam, cut off his head, and pit it on a post in central Baghdad. You've
27 Alpha 1 : You may find Saddam, and OBL, but I don't think you'll ever find WMD's in the amount that would have made this war truely necessary.
28 Post contains links Bravo45 : I have been once again browsing through the threads for a while now but this post by Alpha1 has made me reply, Do you believe it now?? (It goes out to
29 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Bravo45, that's funny stuff. Thanks for the laugh.
30 B757300 : For some, no amount of chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons & components will ever be enough to justify removing Saddam from power since it was do
31 Alpha 1 : For some, no amount of chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons & components will ever be enough to justify removing Saddam from power since it was do
32 N766UA : I agree that the WMD thing was hyped, but I think they DO have them. We know they had scientests and researchers doing work on Chemical and Nuclear pr
33 RayChuang : In many ways, Qusay and Uday Hussein were the real power of the Saddam Hussein regime. And both of them were capable of some quite unspeakable crimes,
34 GloBaLeXpResS : Iraq has not got any Weapons of Mass Destruction left. They were destroyed BEFORE this silly war. For christs sake, journalists all shit their pants w
35 Post contains images Airsicknessbag : It is very unfortunate they died before coughing up some information on the regime. E.g. status of WMD programmes, whereabouts of other wanted head h
36 Sabena332 : Now we need to move forward get Saddam, Usama and find those WMDs. Which WMD`s? Patrick
37 Super Em : They better find Saddam quick and put an end to his power.If they don't, it will only increase the violence against the Americans.
38 GDB : What do you reckon the Iraqi who turned them in will do with the $30 million reward?
39 GKirk : Emigrate to the UK or USA?
40 Qb001 : Just heard an expert on Iraq on Radio-Canada. He expressed some skepticism that both Saddam's sons were killed, since they apparently hated each other
41 Yyz717 : I agree, it does seem odd that they were together. They were rivals and common sense would suggest they would have separated. If Saddam had doubles, n
42 EA CO AS : WHAT amount of chem, bio or nukes, B757300!! For God's sakes, man, NOTHING HAS BEEN FOUND!!! And I'd be this pissed off had this been Al Gore or Bill
43 Bobrayner : Now let's assume he tells you that you can't go looking for it for TWELVE YEARS...and that it'll be buried somewhere in the state of California. Again
44 Yyz717 : WMD's (especially of a chemical variety) can be very compact & difficult to locate. Given Saddam's use of chemical weapons on the Kurds and his refusa
45 Post contains images Bobrayner : He certainly had them in the past; nobody's denying that. I don't doubt you'll find traces somewhere if you go over the right facility with a fine-too
46 Post contains links STT757 : http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/5867991?source=Evening%20Standard
47 Alpha 1 : WMD's (especially of a chemical variety) can be very compact & difficult to locate. ROTFLMAO. Riiight! Especially when the Administration said they we
48 Bobrayner : Powell: Our conservative estimate is that Iraq today has a stockpile of between 100 and 500 tons of chemical weapons agent And, of course, Rumsfeld: W
49 Bobrayner : Anyway. It's good to see that Uday and Qusay have gone.
50 B757300 : I'm reminded of what someone said once about Uday and Qusay. The greatest weapons of mass destruction (or biological weapons if you prefer) that Sadda
51 Alpha 1 : The greatest weapons of mass destruction (or biological weapons if you prefer) that Saddam ever created were his two sons. Yeah, but Bush didn't rail
52 Post contains images Clipperhawaii : You know what Alpha 1? We are there, making positive changes, they are gone, the regime is gone, and all the gripping won't change anything. Why is th
53 Post contains images EA CO AS : AMEN, PREACHER BROTHER!!!
54 L-188 : Word is that we had to call in TOW missle gunners to dig them out of an armoured bunker. Hopefully what will happen is that Saddam will hear the news,
55 NWA742 : Yeah, but Bush didn't rail on going to war because of Uday and Qusay. Remember Alpha 1, WMDs WERE NOT THE ONLY REASON we went to war. You seemingly pa
56 Post contains images NoUFO : As one of those who opposed to war I could always easily agree to some - if not all - of the pro-war arguments. However, my point of view was that the
57 Post contains images Jhooper : CNN is reporting that Saddam's sons had in their possession viagra, ladies purses, and a condom, among other things
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