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America's Finest City?  
User currently offlineCstarU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1091 times:

Is San Diego's official motto outdated?

I think so. Perhaps 15 to 20 years ago it was probably one of the best places in the States to live. Now, I might as well be in Los Angeles or Orange Co. when it comes to urban sprawl, traffic and pollution.

I been going there starting in 1973, every year since 1986, and I've noticed that it's not as enjoyable as my previous visits. My biggest gripe is about the traffic (been on Mira Mesa Blvd. lately) and the proliferation of strip malls (especially those stupid speedbumps). I think the city needs to curb its growth, but don't think that's going to happen.

Despite this, I'll probably be back there in a couple of months. Big grin



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User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 926 times:

What the bloody hell are you talking about, fool??? San Diego is a great place to live!! Well if you have money at least...it can get pretty damn expensive otherwise.

Well seriously now...I grew up in San Diego when it had evolved into a big city. I view it as something that should strive to be more; not try and sit on its past. It seems that all of the people that don't like San Diego now just can't compensate for the fact that it is now a region with almost 3 million people. What we need to do now is not try and constrain the city, but tend its growth wisely. I certainly do not like the proliferation of strip malls, and I support almost every land-saving measure that comes on the ballot.

I kind of like Mayor Murphy's stance on growth: Don't attract it, but do everything we need to accomodate it. Because it will happen. Whether we like it or not.

Aaron G.
San Diego, CA


User currently offlineCstarU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 903 times:

...we need to do now is not try and constrain the city, but tend its growth wisely

Case in point: Hwy 56 is now open between I-5 (Carmel Valley) and I-15 (Penasquitos); this will be a great benefit to commuters now using Mira Mesa Blvd. Unfortunately, I foresee further development (actually, it's occuring now) along Hwy 56, therefore instead of relieving congestion on the other surface streets it'll (development) add new traffic to the area.

I was there in the '70s and I saw how the city planners tried to accommodate the future growth, e.g. wider roads to add new lanes, but I'm sure they didn't foresaw the very rapid growth of the city.

Wasn't there a ballot initiative in 1998 curbing growth, but was unfortunately defeated?

regards,


P.S. don't worry about a new airport...you guys can't even build a new baseball stadium.  Big grin Big grin


User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 896 times:

hehe I guess not. If nothing can ever be done in this city I wonder why everyone's complaining Smile.

Aaron G.


User currently offlineDeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 901 times:

I'd rather live in America's Most Beautiful City.....



San Francisco, California.

DeltaSFO



It's a new day. Every moment matters. Now, more than ever.
User currently offlineIflycoach From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1015 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 891 times:

I'm with DeltaSfo on this one.

User currently offlineCstarU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 885 times:

I agree...Frisco (chuckle Big grin) is the most beautiful city that I've been to...besides where else can Willie Brown run for mayor as a moderate.  Big grin Big grin


Although this is my kind of town...


regards,


P.S. sorry for the cheap shot, again...but I'm a cheap shot artist, it says so in my business card. Big grin


User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 880 times:

Hey, SD, SF, and Chicago are my 1, 2, & 3 when it comes to cities. I like it.

Aaron G.


User currently offlineUs330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3866 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 877 times:

Although San Francisco is probably the pretteist major city in America, Vancouver is by far the prettiest in North America, especially when the sun is out.

User currently offlineBig777jet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 873 times:

I have heard that the worst place is in Yuma City, California about a few years ago on the news! I bet SFO, YVR, DEN and ORD are the most beautiful cities in North America. I really like DEN. Denver has been a lot of improving and bigger! I like to see the mountains from Denver. When I retire to move in Denver someday.

Big777jet


User currently offlineCOexERJ From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 870 times:

I would have to say Austin, Texas



User currently offlineCstarU From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 865 times:

big777jet

You mean Yuba City, north of Sacramento, near Marysville. It's pretty boring area except one can always drive to The Sierras and Lassen Volcanic National Park.

Yuma is in Arizona, there's nothing there unless you're a jarhead (Marine) or work for Boeing (nee McDonnell Douglas).

I think that survey also had Rockford, IL as one of the best place to live in America.  Confused

regards,


User currently offlineFDXmech From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 35
Reply 12, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 867 times:

What other city is called "The City", none other than New York City. Now thats a CITY. Smile


You're only as good as your last departure.
User currently offlineN960AS From Switzerland, joined Apr 2000, 466 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 856 times:

No city in the "New World" comes close to touching New York.
NYC has the most culture [Met, Guggenhiem, Cooper Hewitt, Whittney, MoMA, Met Opera, Natural History], lots of art from the galleries of SoHo and back up to the Met. Then there is the worlds greatest food, H&H bagels! Best places to eat with a variety as great as the many people that make up the city with a range of prices that reflect the increadible poverty and wealth in the city. Great architecture, despite eye soars like the World Trade Center. Ok, what else, Central Park is of course a great place to be, I can't think of anyother exercise I'd rather do than the 6 mile loop around the park from the rich streets of the Upper East Side to the rough but deep routed streets of Harlem and to the funky neighborhood like Upper West Side. New York is also made up of 4 other bourghs, let us not forget them, but now I have to go, so you can go explore yourself.



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PS...JFK is the best airport and London is my secod favorite city.


User currently offlineTWA From Iran, joined Sep 2010, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 847 times:

ATLANTA!!!!!

TWA


User currently offlineRedraider From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 531 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 842 times:

Austin, Texas and the Hill Country.

Pretty and affordable



My wife can't wrestle, but you should see her box.
User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 836 times:

Well, my first trip to America is coming up pretty soon...I'm flying to New York for a few days, and then my friends and I will be driving up to Boston, and then Providence.

I am REALLY excited, as I have seen and heard so much about this country. Yeehaa! Big grin


User currently offlineN766AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 832 times:

Hey, now... we're forgetting the Emerald City- yes that's right, Seattle is America's finest city.





User currently offlineUs330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3866 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 830 times:

Dallas or Fort Worth! No wait, I thought you were talking about America's ugliest city. Big grin

User currently offlineMls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3076 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 817 times:


Des Moines!!



Just thought I'd through this in.  Big grin
At least the rivers are clean enough to swim in and fish out of!
mls515


User currently offlineMls515 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3076 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 813 times:

What the hell, here's Iowa City too:


(river not clean enough to swim in and fish out of  Sad )


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39693 posts, RR: 75
Reply 21, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 820 times:

Wow a lot of great cities in this post.

DeltaSFO and CstarU both picked great cities!  Smile
San Francisco and Chicago are great.
...and yes Willie Brown is too damn conservative for this city!  Angry

Other great cities are Vancouver, Minneapolis, Duluth MN., and Des Monies IA.  Big thumbs up

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Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineN766AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 810 times:

Superfly... if I'm not mistaken, Vancouver is north of the border- that is unless you are talking about Vancouver, WA. hehehe  Big grin

User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 811 times:

How can Rochester NY not be on this list yet?! I'm hurt.

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39693 posts, RR: 75
Reply 24, posted (13 years 5 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 811 times:

N766AS, I was refering to Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.
Canada is part of America, North America that is. Thats what the topic is implying.
Mexico, Chile, Brazil, Panama is all a part of America. North, Central and South that is.

KROC, Rochester is up there!
It's a heck of a lot better than Austin, Texas!




Bring back the Concorde
25 Post contains links and images AKE0404AR : I have been to the following big cities: Boston, Hartford, New York, Philadelphia, Washington DC, Charlotte, Greenville Spartanburg, Atlanta, Charlest
26 Post contains images N766AS : haha alright... you're streeeccccchhhing it
27 Post contains images KROC : Finally...another believer
28 EIPremier : Portland, OR!! ---reasonable cost of living ---relatively low crime rate ---solid educational system ---strong economic growth led by high–tech
29 N766AS : El premier is correct... no sales tax in Oregon paired with no income tax in Washington also makes Vancouver, WA (just across the river) a great place
30 Post contains images Fightingfalcon : N766AS, you're right, Seattle is a fine city.....OK, it's the only american city I have been and I know...but it's great there. Especially with the Bl
31 Mls515 : The Des Moines one was a joke BTW.... As far as big cities go, it got to be CHICAGO!
32 N766AS : Yeah- Seafair is fun and its great you were here for Seafair2000. The Blue Angels are always the big attraction and put on a good show over the lake.
33 Post contains images Fightingfalcon : It were unfortunately bad weather, the performance was the bad-weather performance, but it was still great. I was also on the USS Constellation. I was
34 Fightingfalcon : sorry, but it should begin with "it WAS....."
35 N766AS : Ah yes- I remember that weather problem now... kind of disappointing because when the sky is clear and the sun is out, you can see them coming from mi
36 Lax2000 : Los Angeles is my favorite city in the U.S.
37 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : Im sitting in school right now and im typing so i got to make this quick before someone sees me addicted to a.net!!! , newayz i live by ORD and Chicag
38 Post contains images AS737900 : Anchorage! But as far as real cities go, I'd have to say Seattle...
39 Superfly : Is Anchorage a fake city?
40 Hairyass : I have to agree with LOT767-300ER Chicago is a great place!
41 VirginA340 : My favorites are Boston and NYC. San Francisco is great. Washington DC has a long way to to away from the Corrupt Mayor Marion Barry era before they b
42 AS737900 : Superfly- What do you mean by "fake city"?
43 Post contains images Superfly : You implied that Anchorage was a great city then turned around and said that Seatle was a 'real' city. Does this mean that Anchorage is not a real cit
44 Post contains images AS737900 : Ah. Ok. Duh...
45 DeltaRNOmd-80 : I like Atlanta, and from what I have seen, Orlando is a good city as well. I like those two cities and my favorite would have to be Jacksonville, FL,
46 Blink182 : I would say DC, represents our country in a good way. Fantastic city. rgds, blink182
47 CVG777 : Definitly Washington DC. But also include Chicago, Anchorage, San Fransisco, Ft. Lauderdale, Naples(FL), Orlando, Atlanta, and Philadelphia. DeltaRNOm
48 Post contains images DeltaSFO : I agree...Frisco..... *gasp*.... how dare you! DeltaSFO
49 Post contains images LH423 : Okay, call my biased but Boston is my favourite American city. I mean, the people suck (excluding your truly ), and people can't drive to save their l
50 LOT767-300ER : YVR, it looks like Kowloon!!!!! thats the ugliest city! All there is are cement apartment buildings! And those dumb lights on the bridges, i hate that
51 Post contains images N766AS : Hmm... I don't know what you are talking about, LOT. Though I would never want to live there, it is a beautiful city. And the condo buildings- one thi
52 Post contains images Big777jet : Hi CstarU- Yeah, It is in California north of SMF. Not Yuma, AZ! That's what I heard about this worst city in U.S. In Rockford - I have been through a
53 TWA902fly : Rockford's crime rate actually exceeds that of Chicago. Rockfords MURDER rate ia very high. For such a tiny city it is #3, after Gary Indiana and New
54 Post contains images Fanoftristars : Big777jet: I was about to correct you, but I guess CStarU already did and you recognize it I have been to Yuba City before, and I don't think it is al
55 EIPremier : "YVR, it looks like Kowloon!!!!! thats the ugliest city! All there is are cement apartment buildings!" Obviously, you're entilted to your opinion, but
56 COexERJ : Crapchester better than Austin? Ha ha ha! that's hilarious!
57 LOT767-300ER : It does, in my eyes YVR is so ugly. Overall Chicago beats everybody but i also like SFO, SAN, MIA, i also like MSP and YYC is okay too.
58 KROC : Okay. I am currently stationed at Beale AFB, and Yuba City is about 20 minutes or so away, and it truely is a D-U-M-P, and I have heard alot about it
59 AeroGlobeAir7 : I'd say either Kansas City, or Atlanta, I was born in Atlanta, and it's REALLY nice, and Kansas City's a nice place to live.
60 Rai : New York City baby!!! Nothing even comes close. I've lived and been all over the U.S and Canada too. Austin and Atlanta are shitholes. Chicago is in d
61 N863DA : ATLANTA!!! or should I say HOTLANTA. Jacksonville, (the Floridian version) Savannah & Charleston run close seconds..... FLY DELTA JETS and sail UNITED
62 Alle : San Francisco Of Course! Regards Alexander Holst Helsinki, Finland ICQ 94604005
63 Post contains images 767ALLTHEWAY : BOSTON is the best, plenty to do, great airport (except for the delays, and hassle to get to it) Boston is an all around great city. Great for vacatio
64 Delta15 : San Francisco! By far the best US city. Then comes Irvine California where i used to live, then New Port Beach where i was born.
65 CPDC10-30 : The best large US city that I have visited is Seattle.
66 Post contains images TWA : Rai stated: Austin and Atlanta are shitholes. I cant speak for Austin but being from Hotlanta, and going back over 50 times I can tell you that Atlant
67 TWA : Heya 767ALLTHEWAY, I visited Boston in 1999 and I really enjoyed it. I loved the Historical Buildings which we dont have a lot of in Atlanta because w
68 KROC : TWA: Testify. Even me, as a diehard New Yorker, I love Atlanta. The city is clean, beautiful, and there is tons of shit to do. Plus everything TWA sai
69 AgnusBymaster : Atlanta, GA!!! It's just peachy.
70 N863DA : >>I loved the Historical Buildings which we dont have a lot of in Atlanta because were such a new city.
71 DeltaRNOmd-80 : I love Atlanta as well, unfortunately, I have only been there a total of 8 days. In 1994 on a cross-country drive (Nevada to Jacksonville, FL) we went
72 KROC : N863DA, its because of you, us Yankee's have such a good time. I don;t know how many times I asked where the General William T. Sherman Memorial was,
73 Post contains images N766AS : >Where else can you be on the Expressway, 5 lanes, and traffic is moving at 80mph! Seattle! * *During non-peak hours, when half the metro area is on v
74 Post contains images TWA : I'm glad to see that Atlanta has a pretty big fan club on here I'm proud to be an Atlantan N766AS, Seattle is awesome but one problem. RAIN!!!!! TWA
75 DeltaSFO : Now that so many of you have brought up Mecca... er, Atlanta, I'll weigh in... I'm not a native, but definitely a fan! Ditto N863DA's comment on Gen.
76 Trvlr : I think California definitely has the worst traffic in the nation. On Thursday night as well it took me 45 minutes just to move down 3 miles of I-5 in
77 CstarU : There is also a place in SD County where two highways merge. It's called simply "The Merge" and it is the point where the I-5 and I-805 highways combi
78 LHMark : KROC- What the hell. I'll throw my lot in with Rochester, just 'cause I'm stuck here and, dammit, we DO have some pretty cool bars. (The author of thi
79 Trvlr : There is also the place where Torrey Pines Road and Ardath merge. It is how EVERYONE gets into La Jolla. It's horrible at rush hour...traffic is backe
80 Post contains images CstarU : There is also the place where Torrey Pines Road and Ardath merge. It is how EVERYONE gets into La Jolla. It's horrible at rush hour...traffic is backe
81 Post contains images KROC : LHMark: I had to represent for the Worlds Imiging Center, ehhhhh. Anyway, with good bars, any city is tollerable. I will be back in about 5 weeks, you
82 Post contains images GunFighter 6 : The BEST city in the US is ofcourse: PLANO TX. second the Dallas/Ft worth Metroplex. Can I also vote for the Best City in the world ?? AMSTERDAM my Ho
83 Post contains images LoneStarMike : Except for the traffic, I'd vote for Austin, TX. But then again, I'm a little predjudiced.LoneStarMike
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