StarAC17 From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3211 posts, RR: 9 Posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 632 times:
This topic is bound to create plenty of controversy but I want to see what people would think about taking Israeli type security measures at North American airports. We all know 9/11 was successful as we all know because of a breach of security in the United States but I don't think Canadian security is much better. So my question is. Would the people of North America be willing to sacrifice some of their freedoms to have an almost impossible to breach security in the airports, seaports, and borders hence throwing political correctness out of the window? This would be very expensive to do large scale but I believe the US is probably the only country to pull it off large scale. Tell me what you think.
Airworthy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 627 times:
I don't think the issue would be racial profiling, if you want to build a "fortress defense". The biggest issue would be cost pure and simple, and it will be pretty tough to do in these economic issues.
Alpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 592 times:
I hate to tell you, KROC, that if the ACLU weren't around, despite all our prostestations of them notwithstanding, the government, be it under Democrat or Republican, would run over personal liberties. Such is the nature of government.
N6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 562 times:
I hate to tell you, KROC, that if the ACLU weren't around, despite all our prostestations of them notwithstanding, the government, be it under Democrat or Republican, would run over personal liberties. Such is the nature of government.
Agree - But why is it that the ACLU only likes to defend certain amendments? Ignoring the whole right to bear arms debate (before you start, I don't agree with an unrestricted right to bear arms), why does the ACLU believe that federal judiciary action is the panacea to all its grievances? It seems to me that many of the ACLU's positions run directly in conflict with the ninth and tenth amendments.
I really believe that we are witnessing federalism growing out of control.
Jwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 21 Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 3 days ago) and read 551 times:
Americans would tollerate it after enough of them have been killed.
Israel puts up with it because they know the alternative is having hundreds of their countrymen killed every day by terrorists.
I have to hope Americans aren't so selfish that they put their own petty comforts over that and continue to protest having to pass through a metal detector when airliners start blowing up at a rate of 5-10 a day over their country.
LHMark From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 51 Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 540 times:
Hell, I don't deny my American-ness, but I'm half tempted to move to Iceland as it is. Ahhh, a government and population small enough to actually function together.
"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
DoorsToManual From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 533 times:
I agree with Jwenting - I'm pretty certain anyone, whatever their nationality, would be more than willing to put up with constant security checks if they knew they were 100% legitimate targets for 1000s of would-be currently active and furious suicide bombers living in the state next door.
Either that, or they would just leave the country.
Sane Israelis and Palestinians, imo, don't really have an choice anyway.
Av8rPHX From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 713 posts, RR: 9 Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 511 times:
How was what happened on 9/11 a security breach? Box cutters were not prohibited items at the time. The security didnt fail that day,it acted as it was supposed to. /rant off. No,Americans would not stand for Israeli type security here.
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