CaptainStabbin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 919 times:
Seems that California's Lt. Governor has a few skeletons in his closet. Apparently, he was a member of this hispanic student movement called MEChA while attending college at Fresno State. MEChA is known for using violence in the past and they are known to push racist views. Busmamante says he still supports this group and refuses to renounce his past ties to them.
Instead, Bustamante, who is running to be governor of California, praised the Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan, or MEChA (search), and said he still supports it.
"The students who are in MEChA today are just like the students when I was there, pretty much they are trying to get an education," Bustamante said during a press conference in which the first three questions related to his ties to the group.
"I think the actuality of what takes place in those organizations is to provide student leadership. For me, and many, many others, we were running for student government. That's how I got here today."
MEChA has used violence in the past to make its case. At a July 4 celebration in 1996, members of the group, who call themselves Mechistas, were videotaped attacking black and white Americans protesting illegal immigration. In 1993, students at UCLA caused $500,000 worth of damage during protests to demand a Chicano studies department. MEChA has also been associated with anti-Semitic groups like Nation of Aztlan.
MEChA's motto is "for the race, everything. For those outside the race, nothing." Critics say affiliation with that kind of group could spell political ruin for a white candidate and are upset that little attention has been paid to Bustamante's relationship with the group. He belonged to MEChA while attending Fresno State University in the 1970s.
Jcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 41 Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 860 times:
Hmmmm...interesting. MEChA is an extremist group, we actually have a chapter on campus, they basically hate anyone who isnt Hispanic. For Bustamante not to renounce his ties with this group could spell trouble and its completely stupid. All the GOP has to do is describe MEChA and their actions and I'm sure many would see Bustamante in a different light.
CaptainStabbin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 834 times:
I wish it was all so easy, Josh. Unfortunately, the media seem more preoccupied -- and offended -- by Arnold's father's Nazi past then Busamante's racist past and (possibly) present. They're really doing California voters a disservice.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39455 posts, RR: 76 Reply 10, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 814 times:
I remember when this happened. Politicians seem to be getting away with saying all sorts of offensive garbage. I think Cruz Bustamante's actions carries more weight than a poor choice of words at a speech.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39455 posts, RR: 76 Reply 12, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 801 times:
It was DickArmy (R-TX) that made the 'fag' comment.
Trent Lott was the one who praised Strom Thurmond's overtly racist campaign of 1948. Robert Byrd (D-WV)used a poor choice of words in an interview once as well. Conrad Burns (R-MT) joked with a guy who also used the 'N' word as well.
All of these politicians managed to keep there jobs after such garbage.
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39455 posts, RR: 76 Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 783 times:
Racist ties will not stick to either candidate. Since when are Republicans so concerned about tolorance any way?
What matters is who can solve this budget mess? Who has the magic wand to fix this mess with out raising taxes?
Maybe voters will realize that we are better off keeping Gray Davis.
ModernArt From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 757 times:
Hey Superfly, I don't disagree with you one bit in terms of what is really important for your state.
However, the media needs force Bustamante's hand like they would "hog-tie" any Republican that might have similar credentials as Cruz. His membership and/or association with this group is totally unacceptable in this day and age.
It's bizarre to assume this is some kind of radical group, seeking to overthrow part of the United States," said Mike Madrid , who has worked on Latino affairs for the state Republican Party. "It was part of the Brown Beret and Chicano studies movement, but it's mainly a social group and has been for years. To suggest it's involved in paramilitary training or some underhanded conspiracy is ludicrous."
However, the media needs force Bustamante's hand like they would "hog-tie" any Republican
That's because some Republicans play the race card to win over White voters particularly in the Deep South. Some of there lagislation and campaigns have racist undertones and that's why a Republican would have been 'hog-tied'.
I know people in Mecha and they are good people striving for an eduaction. Nothing more.
DeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 23 Reply 24, posted (10 years 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 680 times:
I'm amazed that people are actually arguing over whether Arnold's father's past or Bustamante's MEChA past.
Bustamante, Schwarzenegger, and Davis are all obscenely unqualified for the highest office in our state. All three of them are assholes and I won't vote for any of them.
You people arguing over who is worse are doing exactly what Gray Davis wants you to do. While you argue about Bustamante and Schwarzenegger, you forget that there actually is a recall election going on, and the worst possible thing happens, which is Davis stays in office.
This is a complete lose-lose situation for California. Either we keep the most corrupt governor in the history of our state in office, or we choose between a couple of completely worthless politicians. One wants the highest state tax increase in the history of the state (I don't care about the MEChA thing or the hypocrites who are making it a big deal), the other is a B-movie actor who doesn't know the first goddamn thing about politics, much less righting the budget of a state that is bleeding red ink.
It's a new day. Every moment matters. Now, more than ever.
25 Airworthy: I agree with DeltaSFO, but there is one candidate in this recall that I would vote for, Tom McClintock. He's the only person who has a clear idea of w
26 Superfly: N312RC: Its tough bein a white male American nowadays. You can't possibly be serious. DeltaSFO: I agree with you partially. I thinks it's silly to arg
27 Jaysit: "Its tough bein a white male American nowadays." You can't be serious now, can you? Try being a man (or woman) of color. Then try running for Presiden