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US State Sentences Man To Death For Rape  
User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Posted (11 years 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2481 times:

I cannot believe that this can happen in this day and age. I don't care how old the girl was, if he did not kill her then there is NO grounds for death...

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/31/national/31EXEC.html?ex=1062907200&en=819f357e0bcf5e6c&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

Rape can be a horrible experience. It can change a person for life. This girl may never live a normal life, especially due to the fact that it happened at this young of an age. I'm glad the guy got death, more rapists should.

User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

How can we justify the death penalty in a non-murder case? How far shall we regress?

User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (11 years 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

I don't know man, I am very very very against rape. The person who got raped is scared for life, they are lucky if their life isn't ruined. I definantly think anyone who rapes someone deserves to get their balls ripped off. Death? I don't know. I have mixed feelings about it.


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User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (11 years 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2455 times:

Balls ripped off? Yeah, I can go for that (surgical castration) if there is a DNA semen match and signes of forcible rape/beating and only on minors. Death? No way.

User currently offlinePilothighflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2449 times:

Raping another person while totally detestable and wrong, it does not justify capital punishment
Capital punishment should be for murder cases only


User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2444 times:

In truth, if tis man is executed, I feel the state (and allthose participating) murdered him. Both morally and leagally I feel it is wrong to kill those who did not kill others. This includes arplane hijackers (the traditional kind) who do not kill anyone...

User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2442 times:

The Supreme Court has prohibited the death penalty in cases of rape over a certain age, either 16 or 18 I think, but has never ruled on whether or not it can be used in cases when the victim is younger. This will probably end up before the Court and the idiots will cite European law or law from some God forsaken place to rule it unconstitutional like they did this last Court term.

Personally, I say fry the guy and then the world will be better off. That kind of scum doesn't deserve to live.



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User currently offlineCanyonBlue From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2434 times:

He raped an innocent 8 year old girl.

Kill him. No remorse, just kill him


User currently offlineBigphilnyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4076 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2426 times:

Personally, I think rape is worse than murder, and much more deserving the death penalty. At least the victim of murder doesn't have to live with the horror for decades on like a rape victim.


Phil Derner Jr.
User currently offlineBigphilnyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4076 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (11 years 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2416 times:

Flyboy, every one of your posts here have not really given a rubttal to anyone's argument, and is jsut you reiterating your opinion.

If you're so close-minded to debate, why even psot this and reply?



Phil Derner Jr.
User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4627 posts, RR: 36
Reply 11, posted (11 years 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

Just put him in Jail, we all know how well child molestors get treated in prison...


Word
User currently offlineQANTASFOREVER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

He raped an innocent 8 year old girl.

Kill him. No remorse, just kill him


And descend to his level in the process? No way. Send him off to prison as VonRichtofen said. I'd rather he sit in a dark room every day for the rest of his life suffering for what he's done rather than just ending it all. Capital punishment is the easy way out.

QANTASFOREVER


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5991 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (11 years 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2373 times:

Isn't there a rule/law in the US that states that the sentence has to match the crime (ie. like they guy who got life for stealing 3 VHS tapes)?

I'd much rather see this guy in jail for life instead on death row where it'll end quickly & human (unless, naturally, he goes for the gas chamber).


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2356 times:

You people and your grotesque want to kill people! God, what is wrong with you people?

He raped her. A horrible crime, no doubt. He should spend a lot of years in prision, and, if ever released, under these draconian laws we have now, he'll never have a moment of peace in his life. But even under "an eye for an eye", it's a joke to pass down a sentence of death for a crime where murder did not happen.

I think, fortunately, this one will be overturned, but it shows how extreme some of our courts-and many of our people-are getting about crime. Put your balls back in your pants, chill, and let's get an appropriated sentence for this mutt. But killing him SOLVES NOTHING!


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7952 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (11 years 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2349 times:

It's not the first time he committed a horrible crime. Nevertheless, I think the judge wanted to make him an example and sentenced him to dead, knowing that it's more than likely that he will leave the death row after a habeas corpus review of his case. It's partially an expression of his feeling rather than a verdict.


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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2333 times:

Death for rape? It's a horrible crime but there are other horrible crimes. What about death for drinking and driving? What about death for libel and slander? - after all the poor victim has to live with the effects for life!

What about death for the emotional damage every time another CEO lays off thousands of people...and then gives himself a bonus and a new yatch? Isn't that just as serious as rape? Should the Enron board be executed?


User currently offlineGalaxy5 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2034 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (11 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2328 times:

Alpha 1
From United States, joined Feb 2001, 7683 posts, RR: 91
Reply: 14
Posted Mon Sep 1 2003 12:51:45 UTC+1 and read 28 times:
You people and your grotesque want to kill people! God, what is wrong with you people?

He raped her. A horrible crime, no doubt. He should spend a lot of years in prision, and, if ever released, under these draconian laws we have now, he'll never have a moment of peace in his life. But even under "an eye for an eye", it's a joke to pass down a sentence of death for a crime where murder did not happen.

I think, fortunately, this one will be overturned, but it shows how extreme some of our courts-and many of our people-are getting about crime. Put your balls back in your pants, chill, and let's get an appropriated sentence for this mutt. But killing him SOLVES NOTHING!

Sure it does, it ensures this POS never rapes someone elses 8 year old daughter ever again.



"damn, I didnt know prince could Ball like that" - Charlie Murphy
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2330 times:

While I have no feelings either way about the capital punishment sentence in this case, my experience with prison populations is that a high profile case like this will virtually ensure that he won't survive long enough to be executed anyway.

User currently offlineN907CL From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 255 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (11 years 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2305 times:

Half the people here were happy when the ex-priest John Geoghan was murdered in prison, after he had alleged raped children. Now you have the death penalty for child rape and are upset? Did you know all chargers were drop after he died, another strange law in Massachusetts since he died before the appeals were heard.

I still think El Salvador has the death penalty for drinking and driving.



Brian
User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (11 years 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2279 times:

Just an observation ... as there is such a diversity of opinion among just a handful of members of an obscure forum, imagine the diversity of opinion among nearly 300 million Americans on the issue of the death penalty. The Constitution only says that people cannot be sentenced to "cruel and unusual" punishment, which implies that the punishment should fit the crime. But adults harming children is viewed by many as the ultimate crime.

Does executing bad criminals make us as bad as the criminals themselves? Well, it's easy to say that from a distance. But would your opinion still be the same if the rape victim were your own 8 year old daughter?

If you don't have a young child, think of some child close to you being raped by an escaped convict, a murderer, no less.

Pete


User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Reply 21, posted (11 years 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2278 times:

You know, I could see life in prison if it was his FIRST time.. But this is not that, he has done it before, and if he is not taken from this world where he should not be, he WILL do it again!!! My god..

Alpha 1, I have no desire to kill people or whatnot, but in cases like this, I totally agree and would like to pull the trigger or whatever. I have alot of friends who are rape victims, their ages (when it happened) varied, and some, now even 20 or 25 years later or more are STILL scared to death because of it. Keep looking over their shoulder, can't let anyone get close and have any kind of relationship with them becuase they are too scared to let their guard down, etc.. I think he should be put to death as soon as possible, to rid one more of his kind from the street..

Chris

(Let the flaming begin  Big thumbs up)



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User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (11 years 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2261 times:

While I have no feelings either way about the capital punishment sentence in this case, my experience with prison populations is that a high profile case like this will virtually ensure that he won't survive long enough to be executed anyway.
How true that is  Smile

You know, I could see life in prison if it was his FIRST time.. But this is not that, he has done it before, and if he is not taken from this world where he should not be, he WILL do it again!!! My god.
Even if I was to agree that since it wasn't his first time he should die (I don')cle mentions ANOTHER man, not him, as being the repeat offender. The article does not mention prior convictions of this person.




User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (11 years 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2248 times:

If you don't like the law in Louisiana, then stay out of Louisiana!


Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (11 years 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2224 times:

Jhooper,

Unlike your mind, it's not quite that simple. This is about the whole country, not just Louisiana. Think about it, if that can happen there, it can happen anywhere. And wat about for other crimes? It's all a morality call after all, what's to stop them from executing a man for Jaywalking??? And don't tell me to stay out of America if I don't like the law bacause America is about change....


25 Ryanb741 : Whilst rape is a terrible crime, and child rape even worse, I do not believe the death penalty should apply as there are worse crimes (murder etc). Ha
26 AA61hvy : If I ran things my way rapists would get death 100% of the time. I thought about this more. 8 years old is completely sickening. Sit his ass in the ch
27 EA CO AS : You people and your grotesque want to kill people! God, what is wrong with you people? He raped her. A horrible crime, no doubt. He should spend a lot
28 Yyz717 : Just let him loose in the prison population. What about death for the emotional damage every time another CEO lays off thousands of people...and then
29 David b. : Because either way, the victim gets screwed. I personally think that the Board of governors should be shot.
30 N766UA : An 8 year old?? This guy is sick... if not death, give him solitary for 100 years.
31 Srbmod : No matter what the sentence, it was a death sentence for this guy regardless. The most hated prisoners are child molestors and child killers. If they
32 777236ER : You cannot be serious 777236ER. You equate rape with layoffs????????? Why not? Laying off thousands of people destroys the lives of those people.
33 Alpha 1 : If I ran things my way rapists would get death 100% of the time. Gee, stop the presses on that one. AA61hvy, you'd like to give the death penalty to s
34 Yyz717 : You cannot be serious 777236ER. You equate rape with layoffs????????? Why not? Laying off thousands of people destroys the lives of those people. So,
35 777236ER : Tell me why the rape of one person is worse than a CEO laying off thousands of people in the pursuit of dividends?
36 Post contains images EA CO AS : Tell me why the rape of one person is worse than a CEO laying off thousands of people in the pursuit of dividends? You're kidding, right? Tell me you'
37 Bigphilnyc : While I would love to see him tortured for life in prison, but I just dont want my tax dollars to go to keeping a man like this alive. Kill him and en
38 Delta-flyer : Tell me why the rape of one person is worse than a CEO laying off thousands of people in the pursuit of dividends? Maybe you should ask your wife or d
39 777236ER : Whether a person is reemployed or not isn't the issue, after all a person can be counseled after a rape. The issue is whether it's worse to rape someo
40 EA CO AS : The issue is whether it's worse to rape someone than it is to lay off thousands of people in the pursuit of dividends. And I think we've made it abund
41 777236ER : So tell me why rape is so much worse than laying off thousands of people in search of dividends?! "The law is on my side" or "they can get new jobs" a
42 Post contains images Learpilot : after all a person can be counseled after a rape. Ohhh......my.......gawd..... Well that just makes it all better, doesn't it. How 'bout this, we'll g
43 EA CO AS : So tell me why rape is so much worse than laying off thousands of people in search of dividends?! C'mon now, you're reasonably intelligent, right? I'm
44 777236ER : How 'bout this, we'll get a couple of people to hold you down while some big' ole hoss with a gigantic hawg plows you up the arse. Then you can get co
45 777236ER : C'mon now, you're reasonably intelligent, right? I'm sure even you can see how ludicrous your argument is. Well WHY? Come on, if it's so blindly obvio
46 Post contains images EA CO AS : How 'bout this, we'll get our yatch-sailing CEO Unless there's some new toy for the rich called a "yatch," color me mistaken about saying you're reaso
47 777236ER : Unless there's some new toy for the rich called a "yatch," color me mistaken about saying you're reasonably intelligent. It's 2.23am here and I'm stil
48 EA CO AS : Living well below the poverty line, you exist on food stamps, desperatly trying to find work - any work - as you lose your house, car, wife and even a
49 Post contains images 777236ER : You see, the CEO wasn't responsible for you losing your house, car, wife, etc. It was your inability to plan for rough times and secure a new job afte
50 EA CO AS : And how would you know? Have you been laid off from a job you've been working for the last 20 years, losing your house, car and family as a result? No
51 777236ER : The average individual, after being laid off, will seek a new job. Why? BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO IN ORDER TO SURVIVE. Which isn't the issue. The average i
52 EA CO AS : It's hardly a flawed argument. Are you saying someone deserves financial hardships if they're the victim of blatant corporate immorality? They (and I'
53 777236ER : This all boils down to a simple argument; you think the company OWES you something, when they do not. It's up to YOU to care for your family, not your
54 EA CO AS : If you lose your job due to some profit-hungry board of directors, is that moral? You're making the mistake of looking at this personally, like the B
55 777236ER : It's a horrible thing that you lost your job, and I feel for you; I really do Huh? I haven't lost my job, I'm speaking completly hypothetically. They
56 Alpha 1 : While I would love to see him tortured for life in prison, but I just dont want my tax dollars to go to keeping a man like this alive. Kill him and en
57 Yyz717 : Actually, studies show that it costs more to execute a prisoner (due to the high legal costs) than it does to imprison them for life.
58 Jaysit : Guess we're trying to be more like our "good friends," the Saudis. Whatever happened to trying to make them more like us? What next? Chopping off hand
59 Bigphilnyc : Flyboy, a question: You're 35,and have an 10 year old daughter. Thyink of how cute and innocent she is. Some guy rapes her, causing her internal injur
60 Flyboy36y : Phil, This has nothing to do with my personal feelings. If personal feelings were all that judged how I act I'd have killed a lot of people I don't li
61 Bigphilnyc : If I had the chance, I'd kill that rapist myself with my own bare hands. I'd take my time and torture the FUCK out of him. Call me twisted, but I dont
62 N6376M : 777236ER - Tell me why the rape of one person is worse than a CEO laying off thousands of people in the pursuit of dividends? Because in the United St
63 Bigphilnyc : "The role of the CEO is to look after the interest of his shareholders." No, that is a mentality that has only evovled in capitalism in the past deaca
64 Manni : While there is no excuse for rape and rapist should be heavily punsihed for their wrongdoings, a dead sentence is very inapropriate. In fact IMO, the
65 Ryangooner : 777236ER I cannot believe im reading what you have written. I am at a loss for words for 5 minutes. 1.Have you ever met a rape victim? 2.Have you eve
66 N6376M : Bigphyi "Churning profit is a CEO's first priority." Who do those profits belong to? The company's owner aka it's shareholders. Therefore, as most sha
67 Jaysit : "How would feel toward the man? Treat him nice and give him three hots and a cot in prison, free clothes, health benefits, entertianment, free educati
68 Delta-flyer : Maybe you should ask your wife or daughter or mother or sister While they wouldn't like to be raped, I bet they wouldn't like living below the poverty
69 Sleekjet : Okay, give this guy death since his victim was so very young. But what about Kobe (if he's found guilty): I say life in prison. And no, I don't think
70 777236ER : Now i ask you which option out of the 2 given would you choose if you had to take - being a victim of rape or made redundant? How can you choose betwe
71 Boeing4ever : How can you choose between them? Being laid off can give a lot of people the very real possibility of living life below the poverty line - through NO
72 777236ER : Being laid off is bad, but there is still the possibility of bouncing back. Rape is a traumatizing experience, one that stays with the victim for life
73 Post contains images Lehpron : I'm personally at odds with the death penalty, but he raped a child. Let's repeat that: He raped a child. Adults don't understand kids, this girl just
74 BR715-A1-30 : What about death for libel and slander? Many members on this site would probably be on death row if that were true.
75 Kolobokman : In Russia rapists go to maximum security jail for life. And that a lot harsher then death penalty!
76 Post contains images Bobrayner : An eye for and eye -- we're letting him off too easy in this case with death. He should get raped by some bitch of a whale on her terms (PAYBACK), lik
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