Artsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4741 posts, RR: 43 Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1295 times:
I am not sure if you guys know this, but this actually a working program, not just a funny picture
Aloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8357 posts, RR: 47 Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1286 times:
LOL!! Matt D started the thread I was thinking about the other day! It just gets soooo annoying when everything you hear on MTV is "shake ya ass", "clap, clap, clap" and "yo". Thank God there's radio21 - they're playing "Fire" by The Who right now.
Walk together, talk together all ye peoples of the earth. Then, and only then, shall ye have peace.
Srbmod From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 16888 posts, RR: 51 Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1263 times:
A few problems with this program: There's no "Hell Yeah" option (I guess it must be available in the Dr. Dre upgrade patch), and no alcoholic beverage section either.
Learpilot From United States of America, joined May 2001, 814 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1249 times:
Performing 'artist'...
The topic is misleading, though. Calling rap "music" is a bit of a streach.
Heed our warnings or your future will be underpant free!
Covert From Ghana, joined Oct 2001, 1436 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1243 times:
Ahem, rap music is more than that dumb little picture. R&B roots go way back beyond many genres of music that you probably listen to.
The music that people are just throwing together today with little varied subject matter hardly qualifies as rap, more as dance or showoff music, not that with the supposedly little talent required to piece such tunes together (as you imply) you could make a hit yourself...
If you knew a little better about genre classification, or possibly what talent is, you would not reduce the name of rap to what you just have.
Shamrock1Heavy From Ireland, joined Nov 2002, 250 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1236 times:
Rap for the most part sucks. I happen to own one rap CD amongst my countless Hardcore 7"'s. I own Dr.Dre's "the Chronic" The album is so funny to lsiten to. But yeah, I agree Rap and R&B really do suck. I respect those who PLAY THEIR OWN INSTRUMENTS!
Aloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4397 posts, RR: 17 Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1212 times:
I must be shallow as well. I agree. Rap, for the most part, does suck on a wide basis today.
I give exception to a select few artists who really do have talent at it. I respect them for having talent. Rap is not my thing though, I'm not into that kind of music, but I can respect when someone does have talent. It does help if they have a credible life to go along with it though.
But I'll just say that I agree, 96% of rap sucks, and that which doesn't suck, rarely appeals to me anyway. Hope that the fact that I'm not a rap fan doesnt mean that I'm "shallow".
Jcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 43 Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1200 times:
Could you make a beat and ride it?
Yeah, if I had computers to make my beats and I could suit my lyrics to the rythym there would be no problem.
Shows how little you know and how shallow you are.
Actually, it shows how shallow you are. You listen to music that glorifies everything from rape to murder to drug use, and the pathetic thing is that the African-American community supports this. I cant figure out for the life of me why people glorify rap. If you genuinely like rap because of the music, congratulations, you have no taste.
KROC From United States of America, joined May 2000, 19737 posts, RR: 76 Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1196 times:
I have to agree with Covert. All of you people that sit back and say rap music sucks etc are either going by what you hear from the media, or your own personal bias. If you do not like it, hey, to each their own, but that does not mean it sucks. And those that "do not like it", I am willing to bet have never heard real rap music.
There are rappers that play their own instruments. And for those that think that is a 'good' argument, or that they 'steal' beats is a good argument are sadly mistaken. While it may seem 'easy' to program a beat, it isn't. To come up with a beat, that is usually overlayed with other beats as well, mix in samples, voice samples, etc. and have it hit is a tough task. All who say its easy or criticise about the instruments, I'd be willing to bet you couldn't produce a beat to save your life. Also, when it comes to sampling, rap music has given new life to forgotten music, or revived once popular music all over again. I bet those artists collecting large royalties from samples are not crying.
97% of you need to stop being ignorant, because anyone who believes Mr. Reel to Reel's picture is "so true" doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground, much less anything about real rap music. Whether its about the roots of the music, true meanings, and the fact there is a solid music much deeper than the "hoes, bitches, and muthafuckas" you all think you know so much about.
Go ahead and not like rap music, but don't sit there and say it sucks, cause you know nothing about it, or just don't like it.
"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again"
777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1196 times:
You listen to music that glorifies everything from rape to murder to drug use, and the pathetic thing is that the African-American community supports this
Speaking for all African Americans? Doesn't that seem a bit stereotypical?
Furthermore, you're implying that the African-American community supports murder and drug use. Jcs17, while I can disagree with your opinions I usually respect you, but isn't that going a bit too far?
I cant figure out for the life of me why people glorify rap
I can't figure out for the life of me why people glorify teeny pop, but it happens.
If you genuinely like rap because of the music, congratulations, you have no taste.
Covert From Ghana, joined Oct 2001, 1436 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1189 times:
Jcs17
I could send you a whole rap cd full of songs I made that do not glorify "rape to murder to drug use."
I have heard many kinds of music, and I most certainly can say the only entire category of music I have heard entirely devoid of references to "rape to murder to drug use" is classical, and in those songs I heard nobody talks either.
So Jcs you must only listen to classical music if you use that argument.
Secondly, you mention African Americans. Well I wouldn't bring race into it, but the only rapper I have heard talk about rape in his songs is Eminem, who doesn't look very African American to me.
Anyways, how does it show how shallow I am? What because my horizons aren't broad? Well I know a lot about airplanes...
The only reason I mentioned shallowness is in reference to Shamrock damning the whole genre of rap. I don't know what you like, but I'm pretty sure you would flame the hell out of me if I said whatever your pastime is plain old sucks.
Could you make a beat and ride it?
Yeah, if I had computers to make my beats and I could suit my lyrics to the rythym there would be no problem.
Yeah right, but there is more to making something that sounds coherent and would meet Shamrock's requirement of "PLAY THEIR OWN INSTRUMENTS." Not to mention nobody probably would listen to yours.
Shamrock1Heavy From Ireland, joined Nov 2002, 250 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1176 times:
I was once into rap, my brothers are still into it, real underground rap. Like unsigned people, not the bling bling crap.
Covert -
I am in a band, and we make our own music and "ride" it. The reason I think rap sucks is becasue I dont like the style of music. But the content can be pretty cool sometimes. I support anyone who speaks their mind and how ever they may choose to.
Jcs17 -
I don't condone those sort of things, but that is their life they are rapping about. My band are songs about heartbreak and kicking heartbreaks ass. (too hard to expalin) I am singing about my life. They are rapping about their life.
KROC From United States of America, joined May 2000, 19737 posts, RR: 76 Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1171 times:
S-Heavy. I respect that you do not like rap, but to say it in turn sucks is messed up. If I don't like say your band.....that doesn't mean you guys suck.
When it comes to Jcs on this. Don't waste your time addressing him. It's clear that Jcs' taste in music is gospel. Chances are, he has never had to deal with anything that rap music addresses as well.....which go deeper than than "glorifies everything from rape to murder to drug use".
"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again"
Shamrock1Heavy From Ireland, joined Nov 2002, 250 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1167 times:
KROC - sorry about my comment, I shouldnt have said that.
I know it goes a lot deeper than that, I used to listen to it. If he heard my band he would probably think we are satanic just because we play metal/punk. If all rap music glorifies rape and drugs, than all metal music is about satanic sacrifice.
KROC From United States of America, joined May 2000, 19737 posts, RR: 76 Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1160 times:
Good point Shamrock. All forms of music can be associated to something 'bad'. I used to be a huge headbanger lol, and I still like Metal. I mean going by Jcs' rule, I'd be a Satanic god hating pimp slapping bitches, Fing hoes, rollin' sayin' whuddupmofo!
"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again"
Staffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1156 times:
Rap "music" is really a very good thing, because the rap "artists" who actually survive the weekly drivebys and murder attempts against them can produce this awesome "music" that makes sure that the getto culture stays alive so that new brotha's can grow up to and make sure that the other side of the getto gets cleaned out once in a while from "tha otha gang".
KROC From United States of America, joined May 2000, 19737 posts, RR: 76 Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1151 times:
Thank you Staffan for FURTHERING proving that Ignorance is allive and well in this world, and that people will always choose to speak about things that don't knwo anything about.
[Edited 2003-09-07 02:46:40]
"Never tell anybody outside the family what you're thinking again"
25 Cancidas: KROC you can't say everyone. i went to a predominantly black/ hispanic high school. i was surrounded by rap in school and even more so at parties i we
26 Jcs17: Jcs, you just showed how shallow you are. Nice try, slugger. The bottom line is that rap is does not take very much talent, the lyrics are often crude
27 Staffan: Yep, it's more alive than ever, I get to hear it almost every day on the local radio stations.. btw, "furthing" isn't really a word, dictionary.com su
29 KROC: Thansk Staffan, I edited my post. Typing fast gets me in trouble. As for what you hear on the radio.....that DOES NOT encompass ALL rap music. Get a c
30 Staffan: At least Jerry Springer and Jay Leno aren't trying to kill eachother in shootouts every second day.
31 KROC: At least Jerry Springer and Jay Leno aren't trying to kill eachother in shootouts every second day. And neither are rappers. Because 2 big name rapper
32 777236ER: Kurt Cobain? Jon Lee? Why not bitch about rock?
33 KROC: 777236ER. A strong Heroin addiction that causes one to blow off one side of his head isn't a bad influence. What are you thinking?
34 Staffan: You mean "smoked"? Anyway, just look at any rap played on TV. The video consists of a guy in a sloppy outfit, an expensive car, a big luxury house, so
35 KROC: So Staffan, you are telling me you are not intelligent enough to realize what goes on in a rap video is for entertainment?
36 777236ER: Just look at all the rock that's on TV. Not exactly promoting good family life is it? Bloody hell, why not bitch about opera that always ends in trage
37 Staffan: No, I'm telling you that their appearance isn't really helping them to come across as very serious and intelligent individuals.
38 Staffan: 777, I'm not into rock either... but at least rock bands play their music live on stage instead of jumping around waving their arms to a playback.
39 KROC: Speaking of coming across as serious and intelligent... No, only the ones not belonging to the same part of town as themselves (i.e east side, west si
40 KROC: 777, I'm not into rock either... but at least rock bands play their music live on stage instead of jumping around waving their arms to a playback. And
41 Staffan: Of course they will, generalisations is probably one of the most common things in these forums. You should try it for yourself sometime, or maybe you
43 KROC: Of course they will, generalisations is probably one of the most common things in these forums. You should try it for yourself sometime, or maybe you
44 Staffan: Ok, I'm satisfied. Anyway, I'm off to bed, thanks for two hours of entertainment.
45 Tbar220: All of you who bash rap music and hip hop, go pick up a CD by a group called Jurassic 5. This is real rap and hip hop. The lyrics are intelligent, the
46 Covert: Hmm, The same people I have read in the past type lines and lines in defence of their little pastimes and crazed ideaologies, and now they find a topi
47 Staffan: Covert, don't take it so hard, I was just having a little fun. I've actually listened to a few rap songs that I found to be not so bad. I do however t
49 Dasa: Bah. Generalisations seem to be rampant in this thread.
50 Lehpron: The only reason I am laughing so damned hard now is cuz I am looking at me in third person as the only one not laughing at this post. It's funny, LOL.
51 KROC: You are stoned off your ass and as drunk/high as Robert Downey Lehpron.
52 CPH-R: I have a thing against those rap acts, whose only purpose seems to be to kill other rap groups (various Death Row acts), how their mother & family is
53 Continental: Please let me jump in on the ignorance! I used to listen to rap, Slick Rick, Jay-z, etc. Now I've changed. I listen to real music now, classic rock, Z
54 KROC: "Real Music" Continental. Your post lost all cred with that ignorant line.
56 Qb001: It seems to me that there is a larger picture here that is missed by many. Almost all of western pop-music has emerged from the African-American cultu
57 Learpilot: Whenever I see someone driving by (it's even better when they're white) and they have big rims and are blarring the bass-induced rap music, You think
58 KROC: Qb001. Very good post. I'm glad someone can look beyond what the media showcases rap music to be.
59 Covert: Suprising how everybody here is "better" than rap, and can talk smack so easily, we shall see what I will freely say when I disagree with you in anoth
60 Continental: First off KROC, you'd rather listen to rap instead of Zeppelin and Hendrix!?!? Covert, you associate rap mainly with african americans (sterotype but
61 Matt D: Wow! I never would've imagined this topic taking off the way it did. But here's my $.03: First of all, I am not a big fan of Rap/Hip-hop/R+B. It's jus
62 Covert: Covert, you associate rap mainly with african americans (sterotype but it's true), you don't usually associate it with caucasians. No I don't.
63 Covert: Matt D Sensible and substantially true, however, I am not turning this into the Million Man March. I am just trying to defend the pure form of rap tha
64 Continental: I wasn't speaking for you COVERT. I was speaking as all.
65 Racko: If you think Nelly, Ja Rule etc. are everything rap has to offer, I really suggest that you take a somewhat deeper look before you judge a whole type
66 Cptkrell: Against an old man's better judgement, let me opine on the thread. As a disclaimer, I submit (correctly or incorrectly) that I am suspect of using the
67 Covert: The key line in your post, Cptkrell, is 'that I have been exposed to.' I understand what you say completely, why I am so bent out of shape over this i
68 Jcs17: Another interesting topic is how rappers like Snoop Dogg, Puffy, Jay-Z, and others are now seen as role-models and prominent figures in the African-Am
69 Covert: ^^^^^^^^JCS17^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The same people that talk like you are the ones that would be happy to see the US go back segregation. I bet you don't ha
70 Jcs17: I bet you don't have any "African American" friends Actually, I have a black roommate and we get along quite well. Get a fucking clue. Tell the truth,
71 Covert: black community continually demeaning itself by aligning themselves behind thugs and gangstas, and allowing their children to believe that the only wa
72 Jcs17: I don't live a life of crime, my parents never told me that success comes through crime. Unfortunately, if you had cared to open your eyes, you would
73 777236ER: you would know that most African-American children live in single parent household They do? I think this kind of destroys your credibility Jcs.
74 Jcs17: 777236ER....sucks for you because YOU'RE WRONG! http://womensissues.about.com/library/weekly/aa090701a.htm "Single Parent adoption is becoming more pr
75 JAL777: Ironically, the overwhelming revenue source for the "rap industry" are caucasians.
76 Covert: JAL777, ironically, yes. Now let's put the race issue at rest, and conclude the argument by saying that, yes, some don't like rap, it does not float t
77 777236ER: 777236ER....sucks for you because YOU'RE WRONG! Sorry what? Where's the survey and statistical data that shows I'm wrong? One sentence in an article a
78 KROC: First off KROC, you'd rather listen to rap instead of Zeppelin and Hendrix!?!? Yes Continental, I would. I mean should I reply with a question just as
79 Continental: Whatever floats ya boat. I just don't understand what makes it so appealing!?!??? I'm thinking of becoming a rapper, I just need someone to invest in
80 Cfalk: Firstly, I would like to start a worldwide signiture campaign to eliminate, outlaw, and destroy all synthisisors capable of either sampling or program
81 KROC: They were for the upliftment of black people? Really? They had lyrics that promoted ideas like "Educate yourself", "Respect those around you", "Work h
82 Cfalk: Sorry, don't get that around here, although I did hear a lot of Public Enemy some years ago. Here's the track listing for one of their albums. Real up
83 KROC: Hmmm, let me address a few of the songs from the above album 2.) Yeah, promoting non-violence amoung black people is bad 3.) Speaking out against the
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