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Largest Oceanliner In The World?  
User currently offlinePositive rate From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 2143 posts, RR: 1
Posted (11 years 3 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1964 times:

I was just wondering what is the current largest cruise liner in the world? I was watching a show on Discovery channel "building big" and they showed a plan for a cruiseliner to be built with a runway so planes can takeoff and land on it like an aircraft carrier. How cool would that be  Smile but it would need to be enormous.

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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

Although this may have changed, the largest that I know of are the Voyager class ships belonging to Royal Caribbean (as of 3-4 years ago)...like I said this may have changed since then...

Greg



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User currently onlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (11 years 3 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1943 times:

It used to be that the Norway/France was the longest and the QE2 was the heaviest. It stayed that way for years

But I think that has changed, Greg seems to know more about the current state



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User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4638 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (11 years 3 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1941 times:

Speaking of Royal Carribean ships, I noticed online today that either Voyager of the Sea or Explorer of the Sea (can't remember which I was looking at) are registered in Liberia...wtf?


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User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1936 times:

are registered in Liberia

Flags of convenience are very popular in the shipping industry... simplifies a whole range of issues.


User currently onlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1935 times:

Lots of boats are.

Cheaper fees and insurance.

That is one of the reasons why cruises typically start and end in one US port, such as Miami.

Part of the restrictions of the law, I believe, the Jones act.



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9210 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1923 times:

Queen Mary 2 (QM2) will become the World's largest oceanliner soon

User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6054 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 months 6 days ago) and read 1909 times:

The ship with a runway on top, or the Freedom Ship as it's known, is not a Cruise Ship as such, but rather like a floating appartment block. Each appartment costs something like 10 million dollars - and then you're not even sure if the ship is going to be built at all!

For the production of the ship, they'll require something like 2 or 3 years worth of the worlds steel industry's output.


User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1866 times:

As Greg said, it is Voyager of the Seas.


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User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1816 times:

QM2 (Queen Mary II) will be the largest passenger vessel when she debuts in 2004. Currently designed at 150,500 tonnes, it's likely she'll be closer to 155,400 when commisioned. That comfortably exceeds the Voyager class by 15,000 tonnes.

The Project World/Project Phoenix class vessels at 250,000 tonnes are fascinating, but Carnival, NCL, and RCCL agree that there is greater profit potential with either 5 50,000 tonne vessels or two 125,000 tonne ones....

The QM2 will be registered in the UK (as of August 2003).

BTW..having a Liberian registration is not bad. On the rating chart..they are miles ahead of both Panama and Cayman Islands (who will allow the registration of just about anything) in safety standards.. Both DNV and Lloyd's shipping tightly control what gets registered out of Liberia. However, misshaps do occur (thankfully, or I'd be out of a job!).


User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13752 posts, RR: 61
Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1805 times:
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RCCL placed an order with Kvaerner-Masa yards today for a single "Ultra Voyager" class vessel, which will more than likely exceed the QM2's tonnage, coming in at over 160,000 tons.

http://www.royalcaribbean.com/asp/rc/nw/nf/rcnwnf_details.asp?s=&axrf=22144

Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. Orders Ultra Voyager

Miami - Helsinki - September 19, 2003 - Building on the popularity and success of its Voyager-class ships, Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. today ordered an even larger model -- the Ultra Voyager -- for delivery in May 2006.

Destined for the Royal Caribbean International fleet, the new ship will be built at Kvaerner Masa-Yards in Finland, continuing a shipbuilding tradition that produced five Voyager-class ships, two Vision-class vessels and four earlier ships.

Roughly 15 percent larger than Voyager, the Ultra Voyager will be 126 feet by 1,112 feet, and will stand 18 stories high while cruising at approximately 22 knots. At 100 percent occupancy, it will carry 3,600 guests and 1,400 crew.

"The Voyager-class ships clearly changed the face of cruising," said Chairman and CEO Richard D. Fain. "The Ultra Voyager will extend that success and, with a lower per berth capital and operating costs, provides even better economies of scale."

"We are pleased that the partnership and tradition with Royal Caribbean continues," said Jorma Eloranta, president and chief executive officer at Kvaerner Masa-Yards. "The Ultra Voyager will reflect this legacy of trust and support."

The yard and cruise line signed a preliminary agreement last June, outlining the design and specifications of the new ship. Today’s contract formalizes that agreement and results in a capacity growth of about 3% in each of 2006 and 2007. The company estimates total all-in costs to be just over $200,000 per guest berth. The yard also granted the company an option for a second Ultra Voyager, with a 2007 delivery date.

In related news, the company announced it would not be exercising its options for a fifth and sixth Radiance-class vessel.

Royal Caribbean Cruises Ltd. is a global cruise company that operates Royal Caribbean International and Celebrity Cruises, with a combined total of 26 ships in service and two under construction. The company also offers unique cruise-tour vacations in Alaska, Canada and Europe.


[Edited 2003-09-20 03:22:21]


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User currently onlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1789 times:

Did you know that 1 gallon of fuel will get the QE2 exactly six inches accross the Atlantic Ocean.


I guess the passenger count makes up for the MPG  Laugh out loud



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User currently offlinePositive rate From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 2143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1782 times:


You know what the stopping distance required for one of these babies is. I thought a 747 had a lot of momentum but these ships require something like 6 miles to come to a stop on idle power, i'm guessing they have the ability to reverse the engines too but still imagine docking one of these, that would be a challenge.


User currently onlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29836 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1779 times:

I understand the cruise ships aren't so bad.

Is is those heavy loaded super tankers that take a while.


I understand the turing radius can be something like, three miles.

Tugboats come in real handy with those ships.



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User currently offlineBobrayner From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1756 times:

You know what the stopping distance required for one of these babies is. I thought a 747 had a lot of momentum but these ships require something like 6 miles to come to a stop on idle power, i'm guessing they have the ability to reverse the engines too but still imagine docking one of these, that would be a challenge.

Yes, but on the other hand they have bow thrusters and such. They can also throw down a rope to some guy on the dockside who makes it fast, then the rope is "winched in".

Neither of these are options with airliners yet.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



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User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 3 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1750 times:

Not that it matters, but I am sailing on a 110,000 ton ship in Sept. 2004. Carnival Conquest. I will be going to the Western Caribbean for 7 days.

User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (11 years 3 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1725 times:

I think that's why Cunard is being smug about the actual tonnage of the delivered vessel. I don't however think it will be in excess of 5% of the initial tonnage.

It will be on the market long enough to capture the largest-biggest-most expensive category before it gets unseated when/if RCL takes delivery.

BTW...RCL has signed the contract, however, they do not have any financing in place. RCL is pursuing larger ships for lower berth cost--an economic move. Cunard is building the QM2 as a showpiece. While the Voyager-plus will likely be larger, it will be a poor stepsister when compared to the new Queen.


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