727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5722 posts, RR: 20 Posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1494 times:
And if you are pro-life, what about in the case of rape?
And for those in America:
Should it be federally outlawed or should it be a state issue?
And if it becomes a state issue, should it be voted on in the legislature, or on a referendum by the voters?
Me? I really don't know LEGALLY where I stand, but I can't understand why a woman can't carry for 9 months and then give it up for adoption? But I will also admit that I think TOO many people are so concerned about having their own kids-legacy, I guess- and don't even consider adoption. I think it is very hypocritical to be pro-life and to NOT adopt.
Canadi>nBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1478 times:
I am definitely pro-choice, given the correct circumstances/situation. However, Abortion, in my opinion, should not be utilized as a measure of birth control; I have no sympathy for those who are so ignorant as to neglect the usage of condoms and other birth control methods. Besides, as a man, how can I possibly begin to understand the emotional and physical trauma suffered by a woman when she is sexually assaulted? (example).
DeltaMD11 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 1698 posts, RR: 38 Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1473 times:
Pro-choice. I believe that it is perfectly fine to have an abortion in a case of rape or sexual assault. Also, if the carriage/birth of the baby potentially endangers the mothers or the babies life, an abortion should be in order as well.
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Aaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7647 posts, RR: 28 Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1462 times:
Neither. I am morally opposed to abortion and do not approve of it in almost all circumstances. Millions of couples are unable to have children and as a result, all unwanted children should ideally be carried to term and given up for adoption. That said, I am fundamentally opposed to government regulating a woman's actions on the matter. It is a woman's choice to make a morally defunct decision.
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Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1462 times:
Personally, I am strongly anti-abortion. I got my girlfriend pregnant many years ago, and we decided on an abortion - for a number of reasons, which seemed important as hell back then but now seem so petty. I have been racked by remorse ever since then, and so has she (she is now my wife). I wish we could make that decision over, but of course, we can't, and we will never know the child that could have been.
However, I cannot bring myself to say that abortion should be outlawed. Not everybody has the same beliefs, and some people may well have very good reasons to do it - I am in no place to judge. But I pray that they will think very hard about the decision that may bring them as much pain as it has brought my wife and I, and to consider the adoption route carefully.
N766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 7993 posts, RR: 27 Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1444 times:
Pro-Life! That's a human life in there and the only time I'd accept sacraficing it was to save the mother. Otherwise I don't care if it doesn't look like you yet, the child inside still has a soul and is meant to live...
Canadi>nBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1417 times:
If this is the kind of response from someone who stems from the lower end of the human foodchain, then I bow out of this discussion.
For the record, if I were a woman, and impregnated by a rapist, you bet your bible thumping right-winged extremist hypocritical ass I'd be the first one at the door of the nearest reputable abortion clinic.
777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2402 posts, RR: 3 Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1399 times:
Having values is one thing, trying to impose them on others is a completely different story! In your words, you are saying that a women that chooses abortion is somehow lacking in values? Or is a lower form of human being?
I am pro-choice, not pro-abortion. I think that abortion is horrible and feel bad for any women that goes through that experience. With that said, it is not the governments decision on what a women does to her body.
Sorry, could not stay on the sidelines on this one!
BTW, my cousin was raped and murdered as an 18 year old college student in Chicago, so yes, I know of one!
Canadi>nBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1396 times:
N677UA, your profile says you are between 16 and 20 years old. That is not to say you are not entitled to your opinions, nor does your age negate any input you have to a discussion. However, you remember your words when, in the future, your wife, sister, daughter, niece, or female friend is brutally raped
and impregnated (there is no such thing as a non-brutal rape) and you, a male, sit them down and explain to them that there is "no mercy on this earth"; that they must suffer and carry the rapists child to full term. Tell them that, as you look into their eyes and fail to see the horrific violation and trauma they are suffering. Then again, perhaps they won't be listening to you at that point, as after all, you'll then be "one of them" - a male.
Goingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 19 Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1386 times:
Overall, pro life. But I would not want to see it banned. I am totally opposed to abortion as a birth control measure - get the freaking tubes tied if you can't remember to take a birth control pill or are too lazy to head down to the clinic to get a depo provera shot, or if you're too stupid to demand a condom be worn. And I am adamantly opposed to the use of any tax dollars to provide for abortions, again, because most if not all of the above mentioned birth control methods are available free of charge from your local health clinic.
But there ARE situations when an abortioin is necessary -particularly in the case of anacephalic or microcephalic babies...the baby is going to be born dead because the only thing keeping it living is it's mother's body. With no brain, the child will not survive the first few hours after childbirth. Wy subject the mother (and father) to that kind of suffering?
Canadi>nBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1389 times:
777fan, I am sincerely so very sorry to hear about your cousin. And you are so right, I cannot imagine what a choice it would be for any female to decide to abort. It must be absolutely horrendous.
You know, I truly believe it when I hear women I know say that abortion is an area/topic where no man should ever tread. I agree and disagree with that, as thankfully there are quite a few men who, while not being able to empathize (of course) with a woman on this sensitive topic, can easily utilize their intelligence and see the logical/rational reality of it.
Cba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4530 posts, RR: 3 Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1383 times:
I despise abortion, however it would not be beneficial to pass laws outlawing it. I would agree to a comprimise, however. I think there should be a law saying that abortions should be illegal after the first trimester. 3 months is plenty of time to make a decision as to whether one will keep the baby or not.
25 Canadi>nBoy: "Canadi>nBoy, With all due respect, just because N766UA has a different opinion on the issue, he is "from the lower end of the human foodchain"??" I s
26 777fan: To all, this topic is extremely sensitive, in regards to the comments above, opinions are perfectly fine, as long as they are just that. They cease to
27 JAL777: I'm pro-choice: Keep your panties/boxers on or keep your panties/boxers off. Unless you had no choice in the above, then you already made your choice.
28 Superfly: Pro-Choice. It's none of my business what a woman decides to do with her own body.
29 N766UA: I'm not saying that women who choose abortion are somehow a "lower life form" as you said, but rather that they should reconsider their action. Why is
30 Jessman: For the record my mother expresses nearly exactly the same sentiment as N766UA. This is not just a male opinion. In fact I have heard her defend the a
31 Seb146: The option should be there, but as stated above, if someone is not intelligent enough to use a condom/pill/patch they should carry the child and give
32 777fan: Jessman, I agree, if there are men pressuring women to have abortions, and I am sure there are, they should have kept their dicks in their pants in th
33 Superfly: Why can't people just mind there own f--king business!
34 N766UA: With regard to what Jessman said, I don't support clinic bombers or other radicals like that. That's totally rediculous. I'm completely against aborti
35 JAL777: Why can't people just mind there own f--king business! Where does one draw the link of "minding their own business?" Would you considering slicing the
36 777fan: Superfly, You summed it up in one line.......!!!!! I will say that it is fairly amazing that this sensitive of a topic has not degenerated like other
37 777fan: No, that would not be my business, it would be the business of the local police force, the family of the victim, as tragic as it would be, no it would