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California Recall Election....Predictions?  
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6613 posts, RR: 20
Posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1379 times:

No name calling and no fighting.

Just predictions.

Pretend it's football.



RECALL VOTE:

Yes: 59%
No: 41%

WHOM TO REPLACE WITH:

Aaaaaaaahnold: 42%
Bustamonte: 27%
McClintock: 20%
Others: 11%
Superfly: .0006%
Matt D: .000003% Big grin


Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
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User currently offlineNorth County From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 712 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1371 times:

RECALL VOTE:

Yes: 54%
No: 46%


WHOM TO REPLACE WITH:

Aaaaaaaahnold: 38%
Bustamonte: 31%
McClintock: 17%
Others: 14%


User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13749 posts, RR: 61
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1359 times:
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I'm betting that the CA Democratic Party is frantically trying to come up with ANY possible last-minute legal challenge to postpone the election, as any delay would likely hurt Schwarzenegger's chances of success.

However, assuming the election goes forth as planned (and I can't imagine why it won't):


RECALL VOTE:

Yes: 51%
No: 49%


WHOM TO REPLACE WITH:

Aaaaaaaahnold: 43%
Bustamonte: 31%
McClintock: 17%
Others: 9%

If those numbers for the recall stick, look for a heated "It's too close to call! We need a recount immediately!" push from the Democrats, who will try to tie this up for at least another two months in court challenges a-la Election 2000.



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User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1343 times:

Election predictions...ratings will be similar to the superbowl...or the last episode of the X-files...9/11...cuz it is a tragedy for sure.

This whole thing is a joke to me, I'm not gonna rag on other Californian residents just because like others do, I dont think they are to blame (so to speak) for this, besides less than half will vote anyway so where is the fun in making fun?

I'm not a dumbass.



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6613 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1336 times:

If those numbers for the recall stick, look for a heated "It's too close to call! We need a recount immediately!" push from the Democrats, who will try to tie this up for at least another two months in court challenges a-la Election 2000.

Well, that's why they should wait to fix the punch cards. We see where your loyalties lie, don't we?  Insane



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4524 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1323 times:

RECALL VOTE:

Yes: 53%
No: 47%


WHOM TO REPLACE WITH:

Aaaaaaaahnold: 37%
Bustamante: 32%
McClintock: 18%
Others: 13%


In other words....it's gonna be close....


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1321 times:

I think everyone will be shocked tomorrows.

Against Recall-52%
For Recall -49%

Then Aaahnold can go back to being a mediocre actor.


User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6340 posts, RR: 33
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 1314 times:

I'll agree with Alpha on this one. As Arnie has shown his unwillingness to be specific, I think the voters will veto the recall. If not, and Arnie gets into the governership, I suspect I'll just have to deal with yet more Californians down the hill. Is not California already the state losing population, and business, at the greatest rate?


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User currently offlinePositive rate From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 2143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1306 times:

If it goes ahead Arnold will become governor!

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40066 posts, RR: 74
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1286 times:

Regardless of anyone's predictions, who ever wins in today's election will win by a smaller number than those who want to keep Gray Davis as Governor.

All the above numbers shows Arnold winning under 45% and Gray Davis winning more than 45%.

IF Arnold becomes governor, it will be very easy to collect another 750,000 signatures to recall him within the next 3 months. Then a recall would be set on March 2, 2004 when Democrats in California pick the nominee for President and re-nominate Senator Barbara Boxer.


Advise to Arnold:
Don't get too comfortable in Sacramanto.  Smile



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1274 times:

Prediction?

Arnold will win and Maria Shriver will become First Lady of California.

Social conservatives will have a heart attack that a pro-gay, pro-civil rights, pro-choice, pro-immigrant liberal is in the Governor's mansion in Sacramento.

Who needs the Dems when we have Arnold?


User currently offlineJcs17 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 8065 posts, RR: 39
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1271 times:

Exit polls are showing that Arnold will easily win...about 57% have voted pro-recall and 43% have voted for Arnold.

Social conservatives will have a heart attack that a pro-gay, pro-civil rights, pro-choice, pro-immigrant liberal is in the Governor's mansion in Sacramento.

I could care less, just as long as that bum Grey Davis is out of office, and the free-spending, racist Cruz Bustamante stays out. Arnold is not pro-immigrant, he seems to be middle of the road in that regard.

[Edited 2003-10-08 02:22:56]


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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1267 times:

"Arnold is not pro-immigrant, he seems to be middle of the road in that regard."

LOL. The breakdown is beginning already.


User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8366 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1266 times:

This whole thing is rediculous. Not the law, but the circus that the residents and media have let it become. For shame.


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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1264 times:

Actually poor Arnold will find it very difficult to get anything done with the ridiculous state of the California state constitution. However, when Arnold speaks, people at least listen. So, perhaps he may be able to alter the supermajority requirements that conservative referenda have created over the years.

I can predict GOP conservatives having a heart attack much in the same way they did when Governor Weld took office in Massachusetts in 1990.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40066 posts, RR: 74
Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1256 times:

Have fun with democracy before democracy has fun with you.  Yeah sure

The whole thing is a circus.



Well I am glad Arnold came out against Prop. 54.
That will go down tonight.
It's time for that self-hating Tom to pack his bags and get the hell out of California.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1922 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1255 times:

I voted for the recall, and for Arnold to replace Gov. Davis.

George



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User currently offlineYbacpa From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1108 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1245 times:

when Arnold speaks, people at least listen

He's no EF Hutton, but people do listen, probably because you have to pay close attention to him to be able to decipher what he is trying to say.



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User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 22
Reply 18, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1242 times:

If Davis goes down and Cruz BoostYourTaxes doesn't take over, I predict a large number of lawsuits just like Florida in 2000.


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User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1235 times:

I think that none of this matters because in about 5 months, there's going to be another recall. All the democrats have to do is get the requisite number of signatures on their recall initiative (about 10% of the number of voters who voted today) and then wait the requisite 75 days.

Though I am certainly no fan of Grey "out" Davis, the CA recall law is simply ridiculous. The man has committed no crime and was elected in a fair election. He deserves to serve out the balance of his term and then loose in a landslide.

But allowing a duly elected representative to be thrown out on the whims of voters will result in governmental paralysis because it's just going to go back and forth. Politicians will now literally spend all of their time campaigning and no time doing anything.

I know many of you will disagree, but these are just my thoughts.







User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40066 posts, RR: 74
Reply 20, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1231 times:

N6376m:
Excellent post!

I will help to gather signatures to get rid of Arnold if he is elected.
Only 750,000 (approx.) is needed to get a recall on the ballot. That alone is the population of San Francisco.
If there is a recall on the March 2, 2004 election, Arnold will get his butt tossed out faster than he can say Hasta la vista.
That will be the Democratic Presidential primary election.

I don't like the recall process either but if this is the game the GOP want's to play, fine.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4524 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1227 times:

What makes you think he'll be so quick to be tossed out?

If he keeps his promises and manages to help the economy of the state turn around, it'll be a bit harder to get rid of him.

I've got faith in him. Not trying to be rude of course....I'm just curious....do you think he'll be terrible...because he's a republican? I admit to leaning to the right myself, but I'll vote for a liberal if I think they're doing or will do a good job. Sometimes it's about more than partisan lines.

But I'm asking this in the nicest way so please don't be offended, I am just curious why you think he'll be so awful and hated.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40066 posts, RR: 74
Reply 22, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1224 times:

Aloha717200:
Not at all offended. Arnold is very popular among males under 20 years old.

For one, the problems facing California are facing all other 49 states.
Both legislatures are Democratic controlled and his allies in the legislature aren’t very powerful.
Arnold’s promises will not be meet because our state has a Constitution that bars the Governor from passing laws without the legislature’s approval.
If he becomes Governor, people will see very quickly that he is nothing but a W Bush puppet and (who is very unpopular here in CA) and will be very angry with him.
The problems facing California can't be solved by and actor with no experience.



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User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1224 times:

I don't necessarily think that he'll get tossed out. I do think that there will be another recall election (given the low standard that needs to be met to call the election, its all but a foregone conclusion).

Whether or not he can effectively implement his "plan" remains to be seen.

However, regardless of what he does or doesn't accomplish, it is alway easier to criticize than to actually govern a state as diverse as CA.

My understanding is that the CA statehouse will remain in Democratic control. While I wish Arnold the best of luck, he's going to face a very uphill battle.

-76M


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1219 times:

If Davis goes down and Cruz BoostYourTaxes doesn't take over, I predict a large number of lawsuits just like Florida in 2000.

B757300, I was watching ABC News last night, and someone they interviewed seemed to think that no matter what happens, to expect lawsuits.

California's day of making a fool of itself has only just begun, I suspect.


25 Post contains images Superfly : Alpha1: California's day of making a fool of itself has only just begun Oh we've done it many times before and the rest of the nation did the same whe
26 Alpha 1 : Oh we've done it many times before and the rest of the nation did the same when we gave ya'll Tricky Dick and Ronald Ray-gun. Don't forget Jerry Brown
27 Superfly : Alpha1: I sat next to Jerry Brown on a Southwest flight SFO-LAX. I met him and hung out with him at his pad back in 1995. He is a friend of a friend o
28 Post contains images Superfly : Here is some last minute humor before all the fun and games ends.
29 Jcs17 : Wow, Superfly, did you yank all of those off LATimes.com?
30 Post contains images Alpha 1 : The "Then and Now" one was the best one, Superfly. Shows the absolute hypocrisy of Republicans for backing a guy who acts just like Clinton did. Talk
31 Aloha717200 : Okay, but now I want to see the political cartoons on Bruz Bustamante.
32 JAL777 : So what state are all you liberal weenies packing up and moving to tommorrow?
33 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Aloha717200, if you want equal time, do it yourself.
34 Post contains images Superfly : Aloha717200: Here ya go. Separated at birth? Cruz Bustamante and Mr. Spacely from "The Jetsons"
35 Post contains images Alpha 1 : I'm surprised on one has called Bustamente "Mr Spacely" this election. Such a name fits California to a T
36 Post contains images Aloha717200 : I think the "Bear Republic" one was the funniest, I had to chuckle at that.
37 Post contains images Superfly : Just think, we can have her as Governor! Mary Carey
38 Post contains images Alpha 1 : That woman isn't even pretty, Superfly. Line her up a a skank just like Chritian and Brittany.
39 Post contains images Superfly : Well I wish I can hang out here more. I am on my way off to the San Francisco Democratic Party headquarters for elections returns. As well as get peti
40 Post contains images Aloha717200 : If you don't mind me saying so, Superfly, I thought for sure you were going to vote "No on Recall" and "Yes on Coleman:. I saw Mary Carey's ad for gov
41 Post contains images Superfly : Aloha717200: If you don't mind me saying so, Superfly, I thought for sure you were going to vote "No on Recall" and "Yes on Coleman:. What chu' talkin
42 IMissPiedmont : Aloha717200, what promises did Arnie make? I'll confess to being a few hundred miles away, but all I heard him say was he'd say more after the electio
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