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It's Official: The Governator In Sacremento!  
User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1441 times:

CNN now reporting Arnold has take the office of the Governor of California by a healthy margin.  Smile

http://www.cnn.com

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User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1429 times:

Well not really official but I think they learned some important lessons since last time around.  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1409 times:

Double post.

But this is just the result of the exit polling done by the networks.

Do you mind if they count the actual votes.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1405 times:

Actually... my post was first.  Smile



User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1396 times:

Yes, and yours got deleted first, JAL777.  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1380 times:

In either thread, JAL777, Califorinia comes out smelling like rotten eggs.  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1373 times:

http://vote2003.ss.ca.gov

If anyone wants to follow the official returns from the California Sec. of State, you can use this link.



"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1366 times:

My hope is that this recall will show politicians that their jobs are at risk if they refuse to follow the will of the people.

Hopefully this fear will spread to all the states.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineTheiler From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 633 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1364 times:

I really do appreciate the laughs that California has provided throughout this process. The whole political situation out there is more amusing than an episode of Reno 911  Smile

[Edited 2003-10-08 05:45:35]

User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4477 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1356 times:

Well, I'll just repeat what I said in the post that was deleted:

WAY TO GO ARNOLD!!!  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up  Big thumbs up


I await the official confirmation from the news networks after all the votes have been counted, but still this is excellent news.


I'm also counting the minutes until the democrats launch their lawsuits...and a recall petition as well.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1348 times:

Hopefully this fear will spread to all the states.

Democracy through fear. Watch what you ask for, L-188....

...but still this is excellent news...

No one knows what Ahnold even stands for, as far as running the state, so how can it be "excellent" news?  Laugh out loud



User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1347 times:

Hopefully this fear will spread to all the states.

God please no! We don't need California's wacky politics throughout the rest of the country.

I'll through out Governor McCreepy when his time comes...


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1337 times:

JAL777, you're in New Jersey, so why are you so excited about what's going on in California?

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1334 times:

Do you prefer government through bribery and PAC's?

I ask because that is what was going on there.


The government should fear the people, not the other way around.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1332 times:
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User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4477 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1322 times:

The entire nation is interested in this recall, if only for it's historic significance (the only time a governor has been recalled since 1921), the high-profile candidates, the number of virtual nobody's also running on the ballot, and the circus surrounding the events ranging from character to economy to groupies in the 1970s.


This is a recall to remember. Your candidates' ads for governor are running in other states.  Smile


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1311 times:

I have issues with that first since 1921 statistic.

Bill Sheffield when he was governer of Alaska was brought up on recall charges if memory serves but the charges where found without base, and it never went any farther.

I'll see if I can dig up any more infor about that, but the internet wasn't around in 82-84 so I don't know how successful I will be.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineWGW2707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1197 posts, RR: 35
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1279 times:

CONGRATULATIONS TO ARNOLD!!! THANKYOU FOR DELIVERING ME FROM GOVERNOR GRAY DAVIS!!!!!!

It will be nice living in a state with a government that actually works.

BTW The Governor of Arizona was recalled in 1989, if memory serves. Bill Metchum or Meechum or somesuch was his name. He was recalled for abolishing the state's Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday. Technically, the term used was "impeached" but again, if memory serves, the actual voting for the impeachment was done by the general public. I could be wrong on this.

-WGW2707


User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1903 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1245 times:

I hope you all watched with intent eyes, California is the most imporant state in the union.

George



They're not handing trophies out today
User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6202 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1232 times:

I glad that Arnold won, but I thought it would be interesting to point this out:

Currently, with 48% of the votes counted, Arnold has 1,758,991 votes while Gray Davis has 1,788,631 votes (so in fact Arnold has almost 30,000 fewer votes than Davis). I know the recall election doesn't work that way, but I just thought I'd throw that out.



Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8032 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1223 times:

Boy oh boy, rampant ignorance at work here.

WGW, the government will never 'work' in this state until we have serious structural reform. It's not about the man - it's the system. If you have any misunderstanding about that, then I'm sorry, you understand nothing about this state's recent political history or legislative legacy.

L-188, this election had little to do with the people of this state feeling their will wasn't being carried out by the governor. Wrong or right, this was an expression of collective frustration in regard to the general economic morass nobody in our state's government has been able to address, and Davis was the fall guy, for better or worse. People easily forget we have 386 other lawmakers in two houses who share equal culpability for recent legislative performance.

As previously stated, we have serious structural issues that require innovative, thoughtful, and pragmatic policy solutions. Our fiscal system is in shambles due to years of politicians' proselytizing and citizens' assumptions about the degree to which we're actually taxed and what it all pays for. Many are going to have to put heads together to begin to tackle our situation in a substantive fashion.




If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
User currently offlineTbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1218 times:

I'm terribly frustrated right now. Not because Gray Davis was recalled, but in my eyes, nobody better was chosen. Its like saying, "Hey, the surgeon's having a bad day today, lets bring in the janitor to do his job."

While I have no problem with non-politicians running for public office, I have a problem when they appear to have no political clue at all. Arnold has been very wishy washy on his political stance, he neglected the political debates, and really just got by off his name. All Arnold really is right now is the people who are behind him (i.e. Warren Buffet).

But, he hasn't had a chance to prove himself yet, so I'll give him a chance. But I'm not expecting anything right now. If one thing Gray Davis did right, it was his refusal to cut a single dollar from the education budget, something I as a student care about. I dont expect that to remain for long that way.

Lastly, I'm a firm opponent of the current Bush administration and Republican lawmakers in congress. I think this country has been going backwards ever since Bush was elected, and the last thing we need is a Republican governor in the most populated state in the Union. With the current state of politics in this nation, you can expect a lot of voiced opinions from Washington as to how Arnold should run the state.

I'm very cynical on the status of politics in this country, and very dissapointed in the direction it is headed. A sad day indeed.



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User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 1214 times:

God. I dunno if I'm the only one, but I can't get the way Arnold says "California" out of my head. Drives me NUTZ!


KAH-LEE-FOR-NEE-UH!

UAL747


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1213 times:

aARON747,

You are right, there needs to be serious structural reform to Califronia politics.

Arnold will have a hard time, because it can be assumed that everybody, left in positions of high power by Davis will not be cooperating with his administration.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5981 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1157 times:

To go back to a previous reply:
My hope is that this recall will show politicians that their jobs are at risk if they refuse to follow the will of the people.

If that was the case, I think that world economy would have hit rock bottom eons ago. How on earth do you think that Arnie is going to turn that deficit while not raising taxes, removing any services or firing any public workers.

I can't wait to see Arnie
a) be thrown out on a second recall (that is, if he's not quick to get rid of that law be calling it outdated etc.)
b) having to work with Cruz Bustamante, whom I believe he have not been saying too many happy words about.
c) the people of California waking up in a few months and see how their economy is doing, because as far as I know, the democrats still controls the state senate, so Arnie is going to have to work with them to "pump up Sacramento".


25 BR715-A1-30 : Arnold may make a great governor, but what about President....???? Reagan made it, why shouldn't ol' schwarzy.
26 Ual747 : He can't. He wasn't born in the US. You have to not only be a citizen, but you must also be born in the US to be president, if I remember correctly. U
27 Alpha 1 : You are right, there needs to be serious structural reform to Califronia politics. I don't quite agree, L-188. I don't think the politics are a proble
28 Goingboeing : I wonder if Arnold, now that he is governor of the state, will see fit to extinguish his stogie that he continued to smoke, even in places where it wa
29 Post contains images Banco : On the issue of Arnie for President, didn't Demolition Man have a gag in it about the law being changed and foreign born citizens being allowed to sta
30 Jaysit : Arnie is not gonna get recalled. First of all he won by a VERY healthy margin. Second, he has the republican political mainstream (Richard Riordan, Pe
31 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Jaysit, all that is well and good, but it won't solve the state's problems, will it. Calif. is like, what-$36 BILLION in debt. It's going to take an e
32 Post contains images NoUFO : © Haderer, www.stern.de Austria is proud on Arnie. The Text in the bubble reads: "It's governor, Granddaddy, not gouvernator."
33 Aaron747 : The $38 billion figure was pared down to a debt service of some $10.8 billion for the coming fiscal year. A perfect example of the multidimensional as
34 Greg : It's and embarrassment to the great State of California.
35 Jhooper : It wouldn't be just matter of changing some law so that Arnold could become president. This would take a constitutional ammendment. I believe there ha
36 EA CO AS : From "Demolition Man"... (paraphrasing..not exact quotes) "Hold it. The SCHWARZENEGGER library?" "Yes, the Schwarzenegger Presidential Library.." "He
37 Post contains images Aloha717200 : This is an update in regards to Jhooper's first reply: Currently, with 48% of the votes counted, Arnold has 1,758,991 votes while Gray Davis has 1,788
38 Aaron747 : There's nothing to smile about in regard to any of this. The one good thing that could have come from the recall was a serious discussion of policy is
39 EA CO AS : Did anyone happen to catch Brit Hume's brilliant reply to a local DNC official who appeared on Fox News Channel last night? The agitated DNC official
40 SSTjumbo : My hope is that this recall will show politicians that their jobs are at risk if they refuse to follow the will of the people. Hopefully this fear wil
41 L-188 : Oh I agree this will have more effect on the living
42 Flyboy36y : My hope is that this recall will show politicians that their jobs are at risk if they refuse to follow the will of the people. Hopefully this fear wil
43 Aloha717200 : I hope that California NEVER gets out of the mess it's stupid voters made I wouldn't wish that on California or it's citizens. It isn't fair to wish a
44 Covert : What happens in California affects the entire nation. I was just thinking that this morning. California has an economy the size of many well-to-do nat
45 Superfly : I think any lawsuits would be silly to file over this election. Californians voted for gridlock. That's the only thing I expect out of Sacramento at t
46 Post contains images 727LOVER : Gary Coleman lost???????? DAMN !!!!
47 Post contains images Superfly : Gary Coleman (Ind) 12,683 or 0.2% Gary Coleman beat Bill Simon, Mary Carey, Leo Gallagher, Angelyne, Richard Simons and Micheal Jackson.
48 Post contains links B2707SST : The best thing for W in 2004 would be a Democratic attempt to recall Schwarzenegger in 90 or 100 days, as party officials have threatened. The electio
49 Post contains images Positive rate : Congratulations to Arnold! I'd have voted for him too if i was a California resident
50 JA54123 : Actually, B2707SST the person responsible for the wrestling of that deficit in Texas to the ground was the state comptroller more than anyone. Carole
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