Aloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4549 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1811 times:
The entire nation is interested in this recall, if only for it's historic significance (the only time a governor has been recalled since 1921), the high-profile candidates, the number of virtual nobody's also running on the ballot, and the circus surrounding the events ranging from character to economy to groupies in the 1970s.
This is a recall to remember. Your candidates' ads for governor are running in other states.
WGW2707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1197 posts, RR: 32
Reply 17, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1768 times:
CONGRATULATIONS TO ARNOLD!!! THANKYOU FOR DELIVERING ME FROM GOVERNOR GRAY DAVIS!!!!!!
It will be nice living in a state with a government that actually works.
BTW The Governor of Arizona was recalled in 1989, if memory serves. Bill Metchum or Meechum or somesuch was his name. He was recalled for abolishing the state's Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday. Technically, the term used was "impeached" but again, if memory serves, the actual voting for the impeachment was done by the general public. I could be wrong on this.
Jhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6206 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1721 times:
I glad that Arnold won, but I thought it would be interesting to point this out:
Currently, with 48% of the votes counted, Arnold has 1,758,991 votes while Gray Davis has 1,788,631 votes (so in fact Arnold has almost 30,000 fewer votes than Davis). I know the recall election doesn't work that way, but I just thought I'd throw that out.
Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
Aaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8939 posts, RR: 26
Reply 20, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1712 times:
Boy oh boy, rampant ignorance at work here.
WGW, the government will never 'work' in this state until we have serious structural reform. It's not about the man - it's the system. If you have any misunderstanding about that, then I'm sorry, you understand nothing about this state's recent political history or legislative legacy.
L-188, this election had little to do with the people of this state feeling their will wasn't being carried out by the governor. Wrong or right, this was an expression of collective frustration in regard to the general economic morass nobody in our state's government has been able to address, and Davis was the fall guy, for better or worse. People easily forget we have 386 other lawmakers in two houses who share equal culpability for recent legislative performance.
As previously stated, we have serious structural issues that require innovative, thoughtful, and pragmatic policy solutions. Our fiscal system is in shambles due to years of politicians' proselytizing and citizens' assumptions about the degree to which we're actually taxed and what it all pays for. Many are going to have to put heads together to begin to tackle our situation in a substantive fashion.
If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
Tbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7013 posts, RR: 24
Reply 21, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1707 times:
I'm terribly frustrated right now. Not because Gray Davis was recalled, but in my eyes, nobody better was chosen. Its like saying, "Hey, the surgeon's having a bad day today, lets bring in the janitor to do his job."
While I have no problem with non-politicians running for public office, I have a problem when they appear to have no political clue at all. Arnold has been very wishy washy on his political stance, he neglected the political debates, and really just got by off his name. All Arnold really is right now is the people who are behind him (i.e. Warren Buffet).
But, he hasn't had a chance to prove himself yet, so I'll give him a chance. But I'm not expecting anything right now. If one thing Gray Davis did right, it was his refusal to cut a single dollar from the education budget, something I as a student care about. I dont expect that to remain for long that way.
Lastly, I'm a firm opponent of the current Bush administration and Republican lawmakers in congress. I think this country has been going backwards ever since Bush was elected, and the last thing we need is a Republican governor in the most populated state in the Union. With the current state of politics in this nation, you can expect a lot of voiced opinions from Washington as to how Arnold should run the state.
I'm very cynical on the status of politics in this country, and very dissapointed in the direction it is headed. A sad day indeed.
CPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6392 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1646 times:
To go back to a previous reply: My hope is that this recall will show politicians that their jobs are at risk if they refuse to follow the will of the people.
If that was the case, I think that world economy would have hit rock bottom eons ago. How on earth do you think that Arnie is going to turn that deficit while not raising taxes, removing any services or firing any public workers.
I can't wait to see Arnie
a) be thrown out on a second recall (that is, if he's not quick to get rid of that law be calling it outdated etc.)
b) having to work with Cruz Bustamante, whom I believe he have not been saying too many happy words about.
c) the people of California waking up in a few months and see how their economy is doing, because as far as I know, the democrats still controls the state senate, so Arnie is going to have to work with them to "pump up Sacramento".
: Arnold may make a great governor, but what about President....???? Reagan made it, why shouldn't ol' schwarzy.
: He can't. He wasn't born in the US. You have to not only be a citizen, but you must also be born in the US to be president, if I remember correctly. U
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: You are right, there needs to be serious structural reform to Califronia politics. I don't quite agree, L-188. I don't think the politics are a proble
: I wonder if Arnold, now that he is governor of the state, will see fit to extinguish his stogie that he continued to smoke, even in places where it wa
: On the issue of Arnie for President, didn't Demolition Man have a gag in it about the law being changed and foreign born citizens being allowed to sta
: Arnie is not gonna get recalled. First of all he won by a VERY healthy margin. Second, he has the republican political mainstream (Richard Riordan, Pe
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: Jaysit, all that is well and good, but it won't solve the state's problems, will it. Calif. is like, what-$36 BILLION in debt. It's going to take an e