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Malaysia Slagging Off Again...Again!  
User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1142 times:

AUSSIE LEADERS SHOULD LEARN SOME HUMILITY, SAYS MALAYSIAN PM

BANGKOK - Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad yesterday said he was not to blame for the thorny relationship he has had with Australian leaders, adding that they should learn 'some humility'.
Asked to comment on his bad relationship with successive Australian leaders, Datuk Seri Dr Mahathir said: 'It's not because of me. There is a fondness among leaders of Australia to make nasty comments like calling me recalcitrant.

'And John Howard did the same thing repeatedly, even casting aspersions on our judicial system as if we do not understand law, fair deals and justice,' he added, referring to the Australian Prime Minister.

'In fact we do. We have a very good history of treating our aborigines for example, we did not shoot them dead, we did not commit genocide,' he said, taking a dig at Australia's treatment of aborigines.

'So when making criticisms of other people, please look at your own background and temper it with some humility and that will be good for good relations.'

Otherwise, he said, 'I have no problems with Australians; they are in Malaysia in large numbers and we welcome them'.

Dr Mahathir has had highly publicised rows with former Australian leaders Paul Keating and Bob Hawke.

Mr Keating called Dr Mahathir a 'recalcitrant' for not attending the 1993 Apec summit and Mr Hawke upset him when he called the hanging of two Australian drug traffickers 'barbaric'.

Australia joined other Western countries in describing as anti-Semitic Dr Mahathir's recent comments in which he said Jews ruled the world by proxy.

When asked for his opinion of Dr Mahathir yesterday, Mr Howard said their relationship was one of 'strict cordiality'. He refused to comment on Dr Mahathir's political career. -- Nirmal Ghosh




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User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1126 times:

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2003/s972171.htm
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2003/10/22/nation/6544100&sec=nation
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2003/10/22/nation/6546913&sec=nation
http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v3/news.php?id=25254
http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v3/news.php?id=25294
http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v3/news_business.php?id=25330

More readings.. Do you think he is always and all wrong? Try thinking from a different perspective. He sure has said something bad but some do make sense. He could be harsh in his words, but his points are there.

I shall not comment further and will not reply to this thread but only observe how it develops. Happy discussion  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

[Edited 2003-10-22 09:43:20]

User currently offlineQANTASFOREVER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1108 times:

'In fact we do. We have a very good history of treating our aborigines for example, we did not shoot them dead, we did not commit genocide,' he said, taking a dig at Australia's treatment of aborigines.

Ahem, it was the British that commited the genocide but that's a whole other thread.

'I have no problems with Australians; they are in Malaysia in large numbers and we welcome them'.

I'm so on the verge of telling this patronising git where he can stick his bloody humility, the....(*muffled profanity*)

I for one certainly wouldn't be travelling to Malaysia any time soon as a result of this man. And I'm finding it really really really hard not to associate the people of Malaysia with this man.

I truly don't feel welcome in his country. So - quite frankly, I have no intention of visiting a country that would be hostile toward me.

My opinion.

Do you think he is always and all wrong?

No, I'm not going to say that everything he's said is wrong, but certian highly-publicised comments have major major flaws. Many of his comments are also quite offensive.

He could be harsh in his words, but his points are there.

He must have been hiding his "points" where Saddam's been keeping his bombs  Big grin

When asked for his opinion of Dr Mahathir yesterday, Mr Howard said their relationship was one of 'strict cordiality'.

It's probably a good thing that I'm not the Prime Minister of Australia. I doubt I'd be a diplomatic as Howard has been.

Just an observation: Hey, no Presidential visit for Malaysia.

QFF



User currently offlineDocpepz From Singapore, joined May 2001, 1971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1069 times:

I do not associate the people of Malaysia, who are among the nicest people in the world, with Mahathir.

Governments are governments. I cannot control what my Prime Minister says. I cannot control what my Foreign Minister says.

Mahathir has said many wise things. 90% of what he says makes a lot of sense, but he has to lace the other 10% with such rubbish that it really makes everyone focus on that and miss the point of what he's trying to say.

Malaysia's politicians continually rubbish and bash Singapore but guess what.... Singaporeans don't care. We still go to Malaysia in large numbers (We make up 55% of all tourist arrivals in Malaysia... And some quarters in Singapore have asked Singaporeans to boycott Malaysia and shop there but guess what.... Things there cost half or more than half of what they cost in Singapore, which is why we flock there in large numbers.) and have lots of fun holidays there.

I have many Malaysian relatives of whom I'm really fond of. What their PM says will not affect my opinion of them, personally.

Oh Qantasforever I hope you now know that PM Goh's comments were really quoted out of context and you're not annoyed with him anymore. Only The Australian and The West Australian newspapers quoted him correctly. As in, PM Goh was merely saying the 50% Asian thing in a veiled reference to Mahathir's vision of an Asian Australia.


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 1061 times:

Mahathir slams 'democratic terror'

In an apparent swipe at US, he accuses the 'great exponents of democracy' of launching 'vicious, massive retaliation'

YOGYAKARTA - Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad yesterday accused the 'great exponents of democracy' of 'terrorising the world' after the Sept 11 attacks on the United States.

He did not name any country in his speech in this central Javanese town, but his comments appeared to be aimed at two of the outspoken leader's favourite targets: The United States and Israel.

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'We see states launching vicious, massive retaliation, not just to kill the suspected terrorist but also his family, his home, his village and his town,' said Dr Mahathir, who is under fire for comments last week in which he maintained that 'Jews rule the world'.

'It would be ridiculous to think that such attacks do not terrorise the innocent. In fact the terror is even greater, it is systematic and executed with heavy weapons in the hands of trained soldiers.'

Dr Mahathir was in Yogyakarta to receive an award for promoting engineering in South-east Asia.

His latest verbal attack came as US President George W. Bush arrived in Bali for talks with Indonesian President Megawati Sukarnoputri and Muslim leaders, in a bid to explain Washington's war on terror.

A vehement critic of the West, his remarks last week that 'Jews rule the world' by proxy have sparked a wave of protest.

White House spokesman Scott McClellan said on Monday that Mr Bush had pulled the Malaysian PM aside at the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Bangkok to denounce his 'wrong and divisive' comments.

But Dr Mahathir insisted a day later that the US President 'did not rebuke me'.

Giving his take on the matter, Mr Bush said yesterday that he had pulled Dr Mahathir aside to tell him personally that he thought those comments were 'reprehensible'.

'I said, 'They're divisive and unnecessary.' I didn't yell at him, I just told him, 'You can't pit groups against each other,' ' he told reporters on board Air Force One while heading for Australia.

'He knew how I felt, there's no question about that.'

Dr Mahathir had replied that his remarks were taken out of context, he added.

Mr Bush also worked to find a silver lining to Dr Mahathir's remarks, saying: 'He said that we need more education, a terrorist ban, which is good, that was positive.'

Yesterday, the Malaysian leader kept up his verbal salvoes, this time targeting 'the great exponents and practitioners of democracy'.

After the Sept 11, 2001, attacks, they 'believe that the way to spread doctrine and to break down resistance is by terrorising the world', he said.

He also criticised international financial institutions in his speech, saying the World Trade Organisation was 'being made into yet another instrument to enrich the rich and impoverish the poor'. -- AP, AFP




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User currently offlineBeno From Australia, joined Aug 2002, 428 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1045 times:

I think both Singapore and Malaysia have forgotten who saved their ass in WW2!

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1031 times:

What's that supposed to mean?!


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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1022 times:

What's that supposed to mean?!


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User currently offlineQANTASFOREVER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1008 times:

Beno - I really don't think you should have said that.

Malaysia, Singapore: The success over the Japanese was a combined effort of your people and ours. We share in our triumph equally and expect no gratitude for our contribution, rather a respect for our commitment.  Smile

(Takes off his diplomatic hat)

QFF


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