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It's Getting Worse And Worse In Iraq  
User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4856 posts, RR: 20
Posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1980 times:

By now US soldiers are losing their lifes daily in Iraq. I think their administration is really downplaying how bad it is, I feel really sorry for the guys who are just doing what the President ordered them to do.  Sad

"BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- The U.S. death toll from a downed Chinook helicopter near Fallujah, has risen to 13, military officials said.

The helicopter was shot down by a shoulder-type missile, about 60 kilometers west of the Iraqi capital Baghdad, at 8 a.m. Sunday, witnesses told CNN.

It was one of three separate attacks Sunday, which saw at least one other U.S. servicemen killed in a convoy attack in Baghdad at about midnight."

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/11/02/sprj.irq.int.main/index.html

I really can't understand why there isn't any uproar in the US. They are 19, 20 years old boys who decided to work for their country, and now the government lets them sit there, with the daily threat of death. Imagine what a terrible feeling it must be for the soldiers.

"CNN's Matthew Chance said crowds of Iraqis gathered quickly in the "flashpoint" city chanting anti-U.S. slogans."

They witness how their comrades are killed, and then they also witness how masses of people celebrate every single dead US soldier.



[Edited 2003-11-02 12:31:01]

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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1944 times:

Stupid terrorists.

They should be locked up or worse I say. So stupid that their fellow humans are trying to build up their country democratically and economically and all they can do is to kill them

Idiotic



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User currently offlineDufo From Slovenia, joined May 1999, 798 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1939 times:

And what if they simply don't want 'democracy'?

Jernej



I seriously think I just creamed my pants without any influence from any outside variables.
User currently offlineZak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1993 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1920 times:

why are they terrorists. after all they are in THEIR HOMELAND fighting a force that has invaded it. that makes, no matter how evil saddams regime was, the americans the illegal agressor and anyone fighting them a freedom fighter, fully legitimated to do anything he can against the invading power in his homeland.
if someone would have invaded my country and i would fight them i would surely think of myself as freedom fighter and not terrorist.
but i guess after 9/11 anything that fights for something that the corporate media doesnt agree with has become a terrorist and people actually buy it.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1911 times:

Zak most of that terrorist swine, isn't "Iraqi Freedom fighters" but rather foreign nationals from Saudi, Syria and the like.

And most of that swine is being attracted to Iraq by irresponsible media of the region, such as Al-Jazeera playing up reports of American deaths and such. They make the National Enquirer look like the BBC.

Oh and I should add that only "eyewitnesses" report a missile at this time. Just like every damn time a plane goes down "eyewitnesses" claim that they say flames coming from it.

Wait and see if that is the real story. Al-Jazeera won't.

[Edited 2003-11-02 13:37:12]


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User currently offlineKilavoud From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

Dufo,

"Democracy" can sometimes be a mere word if security is not being offered. To live in an unsafe country must me a nightmare even during daytime. I would myself even find it hard to imagine flying over Iraq when flying between Switzerland and India and vice versa. Who will solve this situation becoming more and more dramatic for both innocent Iraqis and US soldiers ? Who can approach this trap the right way ? Are Humans intelligent enough to do it ? Let us wait and see.

Regards. Kilavoud.


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1904 times:

Strange that all what is happening now was predicted... and not by the neo conservative 'intelligence' (*cough*).

Don't generalise the terroristic attacks to every Iraqi. It's actually a small bunch of fundamentalists against another small bunch of fundamentalists (with on the one side the terrorists like Al Qaeda and on the other side the neo conservative extreme right clann around Bush).

Like the terrorists are driven by religion, also Bush is driven by religion and economical/geographical reasons.

I hope for a new administration next year, a big improvement in the transatlantic relations, and this should be a first step towards a multilateral approach to Iraq, because untill now, only the Iraqi civilians and the Soldiers were victims of Bush and the terrorists. It becomes time to give those people a good future.


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1900 times:

And most of that swine is being attracted to Iraq by irresponsible media of the region, such as Al-Jazeera playing up reports of American deaths and such.

The other extreme is the American TV, where apparently pictures etc from funerals of American soldiers are banned from now. The people may not see how cruel it is in Iraq?

A lot of people supported the war only because they stood behind their soldiers. Now after all those months, a lot of people (actually who not) are still behind their soldiers, but not after the decision to invade Iraq anymore. And that's a good move me thinks.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1897 times:

A multilateral approach to Iraq.

Where was a multi-lateral approach when France, Russia and Germany attempted to block the enforcement of UN resolutions in Iraq this spring.

Where was France and Germany this week when donations for the reconstruction of Iraq where being asked for?

A multi-lateral approach went out the window, by the choice of those countries, at least 8 months ago.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1896 times:

Sabena, How much American news are you watching, because all of the major media in this country are getting their jollies reporting body counts.

Apparently it reminds Dan Rather of Nam.




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User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1881 times:

Where was a multi-lateral approach when France, Russia and Germany attempted to block the enforcement of UN resolutions in Iraq this spring.

Dude, has America unilaterally invaded or not? It is the right of countries to block a UN veto. What if we all would start invading country X and Y with some fake arguments? That would be a nice world!

Where was France and Germany this week when donations for the reconstruction of Iraq where being asked for?

Why do we have to pay for the mistakes of your administration?


User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4856 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1875 times:

L-188,

Germany has given about 200.000.000 € for Iraq. Considering that our financial situation is not very good that's a good amount of money.


User currently offlineZak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1993 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1875 times:

@L-188

the amount of attacks makes it imperative that they have indeed rather large support by iraqis. otherwise they wouldnt be able to execute all these attacks.
i dont doubt that there are non iraqi nationals on the side of the iraqi resistance fighting. but in my opinion that doesnt change the case of them being freedom fighters.
i dont recall anyone calling the mudjahedeen in afghanistan, of whom many werent afghanis and who were mostly paid by the cia, fighting the soviet invasion, were called terrorists. they were freedom fighters, and rightfully so in my opinion.
so if you apply the same logic you have the iraqi resistance in the same tune of being freedom fighters. that is if you arent a hypocrite about it.

on the other hand if terrorist is only defined by being for or against the current case of the american adminstration they are surely terrorists.
and if that is the case i would guess the rest of the world has a terroristical spirit too since the majority of the people on our pathetic planet unable of solving problems peacefully oppose the current course of the usa.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1868 times:

No the US did not unilaterally invade. It was a multinational effort by countries that think the UN should actually enforce it's mandates.

And most (A few weeks ago I heard a figure of 95%) of these attacks occur in the "sunni triangle"(How many attacks do you know of that hasn't occured in Fallujah?) The rest of the country apparently doesn't have a problem with militants trying to bomb themselves back into the stone age.

You don't hear of major problems in the Kurdish north or the Shite south....I wonder why.....could it be they are glad to see Saddam out of power.

We just now need to finish the job, which is finding him and killing him.



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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1864 times:

It was a multinational effort by countries that think the UN should actually enforce it's mandates.

It was a multination effort by counties that thought Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and was an imminent threat and included the US, UK...er...Palau...um...


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1852 times:

Well you are up to three on that list which means that any action by definition can't be "Uni-lateral"





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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1850 times:

But it's hardly that "multinational" is it?

User currently offlineZak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1993 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1846 times:

i think splitting hairs doesnt really matter. even the british people were against it even though they participated. i think its a safe bet that the only three countries which citizens supported this attack by majority are the usa, israel and kuweit.
and as kofi annan pointed out it was not justified by the u.n. under any circumstances, no matter how often fox news says it was.
it was, is, and will always be an act of agression, invasion and neo colonialism by the thugs of bushs government and their cronies in and outside the usa.
all the discussions about unilateral or bought mulilateral token governments in other countries will not change that fact.



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29791 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1842 times:

Well you can't call it Bi-latteral.......There where more then two.

And three, while it may be tri-latteral is still multilatteral.

Besides you left the Poles off your list. They had special forces teams securing seaports in the war.



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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1831 times:

So out of the whole Western World (happy, Yyz717?) three countries supported the war, and of those countries the majority in the UK didn't want it?

User currently offlineZak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1993 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1814 times:

to add something to the original topic:
death toll of the chopper crash is at 15 now with 21 injured



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User currently offlineAirplay From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

I used to get slammed pretty regulary on this forum for predicting this outcome. Of course the rest of my "prophecy" that includes the US leaving Iraq to twist in the wind and a Saddam-like force retaking power is still to materialize, but the rest of my prediction is right on schedule.

This "whatever-lateral" invasion was a bad idea from the start. I don't know why anyone is surprised the situation is going down the toilet in a hurry. Expect more of the same until either Iraq is obliterated completely or public opinion threatens to sour the results of a presidential election....

I don't think anyone will ever argue that Saddam was (is) a bad man. But America must learn that the "American way" isn't the ideological cure-all for all the worlds woes.



User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1776 times:

Stupid terrorists.

Again, that's a convenient label put on these people by Bush to spin the war. Calling them "terrorists" is another in the never-ending game of "scare the American people" by this Administration. Perhaps these aren't terrorists, but simply people from Iraq who are against the occupation? But to call them "insurgents" or "the opposition" would just be admintting that "the war" is continuing, now a full 7 months after Bush said it was all but over. It isn't over. This attack isn't terrorism-terrorism is attacks on civilians to scare a government and a populace-this is war. It's high time we stop calling it something it isn't.

Zak most of that terrorist swine, isn't "Iraqi Freedom fighters" but rather foreign nationals from Saudi, Syria and the like.

We've see no proof of this, L-188, but since Bush says it's so, you pucker your lips, genuflect, and believe it. You make it sound like nary an Iraqi is involved in this. I'd wager the opposite. Either way, it isn't "terrorism", it's "warfare". Stop being so blind and open your eyes. We're in the middle of a serious war here, not a terrorist operation.

And most of that swine is being attracted to Iraq by irresponsible media of the region..

Oh, how fucking convenient-blame the media!!  Laugh out loud Never mind that the U.S., virtually by itself, invaded a soverign nation that wasn't at war with us-it's the media's fault. My my, how you've fallen, L-188.

Where was a multi-lateral approach when France, Russia and Germany attempted to block the enforcement of UN resolutions in Iraq this spring.

Agian, putting the blame where it doesn't belong, L-188. France, Russian and Germany have the right to make their own decision, although you think they should just be like you-an ass-kisser for Bush. I agree with you on them not giving a cent to Iraq, but, in a sense, I don't blame them, after Washington treated them like shit before the war. This is Bush and Blair's war, not that of Paris, Berlin or Moscow.

A multi-lateral approach went out the window, by the choice of those countries, at least 8 months ago.

Again, blaming those who didn't start the war. The multi-lateral approach went out the window becuase of our desire to push this war as fast as possible. It was the U.S., who, the second 1441 passed, had decided to go to war, and we made it clear that we'd do it along. So again, you are, as usual on this subject, dead wrong. The multi-lateral approach went out the window by the choice of Bush and his arrogance to tell the world "it's my way or the highway". Well, he got his war, and it will be his legacy of his presidency.

No the US did not unilaterally invade. It was a multinational effort by countries that think the UN should actually enforce it's mandates.

L-188, maybe you're dumb enough to believe that, but don't insult the intelligence of everyone on this board. We would have invaded had no one supported us. Simply because a few nations tagged along doesn't mean that the decision to go to war falls on the one man that you don't have the balls or the intelligence to EVER critisize. Those nations would not have gone to war unless the U.S. did, so the war is still unilateral. Without us, there is no war.

You don't hear of major problems in the Kurdish north or the Shite south....I wonder why.....could it be they are glad to see Saddam out of power.

Again, you insult our intelligence. The north and the south weren't even under control of Saddam when the war started. Iraq was, for all intent and purpose, 3 states by that time.

L-188, we are in a war-not a police action; not a terrorist plot; it's a war. And it's time people like you stop pretending it isn't. Such blindness is a slap n the face to the brave men and woman who are over there, doing the best they can, under difficult circumstances, who see their comrades go home every day in body bags. You insult the memories of our soldiers who have died by your blindness to the fact that they're fighting a war, and that they shouldn't have been in this posltion to begin with. Amazing, coming form someone who once served in the Armed Forces. But it's the truth-you dishonor with your blind igonrance.


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1752 times:

Its sad that many on this forum are actually happy over this incident. They feel like it is finally the incident they need to force the U.S. to pull out of Iraq and to defeat President Bush in the 04 elections. Gephardt was on tv this morning and actually said "Now I know I can win the election!". Talk about a very sick individual but that is the attitude of the mainstream left in this country. I guess all the lefties should go celebrate in the streets like the whackos are doing over in the Middle East.

Maybe its time to stop fighting a PC war and simply remove certain areas from the map. A few B-52's or B-1B's would do the job very nicely of destroying the two major terrorist hot spots in Iraq. Then again, so would one Peacekeeper.



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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1738 times:

A few B-52's or B-1B's would do the job very nicely of destroying the two major terrorist hot spots in Iraq.

And would kill enough civilians to count as a war crime.


25 Alpha 1 : Its sad that many on this forum are actually happy over this incident. I sincerely hope you do not include myself into that group, B757300. There is n
26 Post contains images Sabena 690 : Maybe its time to stop fighting a PC war and simply remove certain areas from the map. A few B-52's or B-1B's would do the job very nicely of destroyi
27 Alpha 1 : A quote from the story on the Chinook attack: This was a new lesson from the resistance, a lesson to the greedy aggressors,'' one Fallujah resident, w
28 Sabena 690 : More and more people are claiming that the war actually started since a few weeks. This in line with the above post of Alpha1.
29 Post contains images Aloha717200 : The USA can't just pull out of Iraq though, that would be like an admission of defeat to the terrorists that are killing off our soldiers. Yes, they a
30 Zak : "Why can't we all just get along?" cause president puppet bush had to make some money for the people behind the scenes. even saddam was being honest
31 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Yes, they are terrorists. As far as I'm concerened, they're not. Terrorists, as we know them, go after soft civilian targets to scare a polulation. Th
32 Dc10guy : Those ungrateful Iraqis !!! After all we have done for them. And now the liberal media is going to be reporting this latest act. I wish more people co
33 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Dc10guy, for the millionth time-WE WEREN'T AFTER THEIR FUCKING OIL! If we were, we'd be paying a a buck-twenty for gas, not a buck sixty. We haven't p
34 Dc10guy : We are to after their oil ... If there was no oil we wouldn't be there.
35 OO-AOG : We just now need to finish the job, which is finding him and killing him What about "arrest" him between the "finding" and "killing"?! Oh yeah, I reme
36 Post contains links N79969 : There's no question that these guys are terrorists. The people that are attacking U.S. forces do not want freedom for Iraqis, they want freedom for th
37 Post contains links N79969 : I posted this in another thread yesterday but I think this op-ed by the same author is relevant here as well. *************** ************************
38 Jaysit : What I found rather disturbing - and telling - from this incident was that the villagers near the crash site in Falujah were celebrating the chopper c
39 OO-AOG : Do not romanticize these monsters as some kind of 'freedom fighters I do not intend to do so. I strongly believe that some of them are dangerous extre
40 Dc10guy : They don't want us there ... We shouldn't be there. Its Vietnam all over again. Just like Saddam said.
41 Aloha717200 : Alpha 1: I think you kind of misunderstood my post: Then, left to you, there will never be peace in Iraq. The Iraqi's want to run the country, not cee
42 Post contains images Aloha717200 : By the way, N79969, thanks for posting those two articles. I agree with them both, very much so in fact. Well written as well.
43 N79969 : "And just face it, Bush was planning to get his hands on the Oil, at least get all the contracts." Utter and complete nonsense. There is no truth or e
44 Post contains images OO-AOG : Utter and complete nonsense. There is no truth or even rational logic to this at all. Complete nonsense?! no truth or even rational logic ?!? Hmmm sur
45 Dc10guy : Them why don't we invade N. Korea ??? What about all them African countries that have dictator's why aren't we invading them ??? Because they don't ha
46 Super Em : I believe this war was for geo political reasons,military bases,and a stronger influence and presence in the region. Also Saddam wanted to change to t
47 Aloha717200 : Because North Korea has nukes and is insane enough to launch them at innocent japanese cities if we were to do anything they deem agressive. That's wh
48 Aloha717200 : The above post was directed at DC-10guy.
49 Boeing nut : This is indeed becoming another Vietnam. This time though, luckily, we support our troops and give them heroes welcomes back home.
50 Post contains images OO-AOG : Because North Korea has nukes and is insane enough to launch them at innocent japanese cities if we were to do anything they deem agressive. That's wh
51 N79969 : " I would keep the Oil in the story, otherwise 2 or 3 GIs are dying on a daily basis for absolutely nothing." A self-serving and typical European delu
52 Airplay : There is logic in the war for oil story except in the jaundiced minds of Europe's yellow press. I agree with N79969. The US didn't invade Iraq because
53 N79969 : "There was NO reason to go there except to satisfy the delusional fantasy of the President. " I did not know that Canada (or some part of it) joined t
54 Post contains images OO-AOG : A self-serving and typical European delusion. There is logic in the war for oil story except in the jaundiced minds of Europe's yellow press What does
55 N79969 : Ah, yes a missing word. Insert "no" before "logic."
56 Sabena340 : People think American media is the only one that spreads propaganda. Check the european media as well, folks, or the russian media, or just about any
57 Zak : in addition to what sabena said we have those public broadcasting corporations, bbc being the universally known example, who have exactly one task: to
58 BO__einG : Very depressing to hear consistent news of casualties everyday in that country. Whether Iraqi civilians or American Troops. It seems that the best the
59 Post contains images NoUFO : Man, what a banghead this Mr. Friedman is: Saudi Arabia pledged $1 billion in new loans and credits for Iraq — and Germany and France pledged 0 new
60 Cfalk : Unfortunately, the local culture is a rather macho one. The guys who delude themselves in thinking that they can drive off the Americans or impose the
61 B757300 : I like what Rumsfeld said yesterday when asked on some of the Sunday shows about whether or not we're capturing or killing any of the terrorists in Ir
62 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Boy, there's an interesting spin on a war, B757300. Now, this is part of a PLAN to lure "terrorists" into Iraq. ROTFLMAO!! Oh, you're killing me, man!
63 VectorVictor : There is no plan to "lure" the terrorists into Iraq...they are booking their holidays to hell on their on freewill. Hopefully coalition forces will be
64 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Hopefully coalition forces will be able to accomodate as many as possible. Uh, no "coalition forces". That's a PR gimmick. It's U.S. forces, or, occai
65 GDB : Surprised that Iraqi civilians were celebrating the CH-47 being downed? Well it happened near a town where US troops shot dead 14 civilians a few mont
66 Airplay : I did not know that Canada (or some part of it) joined the EU. I don't recall stating anything of the kind...perhaps you can elaborate N79969.
67 777236ER : If I picked up a gun and fought against an army that was occupying my country, would I be a terrorist?
68 Kolobokman : No, unless that country is US
69 N79969 : "Surprised that Iraqi civilians were celebrating the CH-47 being downed? Well it happened near a town where US troops shot dead 14 civilians a few mon
70 Cfalk : The Sunnis in Iraq are like the whites in post-apartheid South Africa both were minorities that dominated all the other ethnic groups in Iraq. They we
71 777236ER : Technically no So no then. Let's clarify, if I was an Iraqi fighting the forces of an occupying army, I'm NOT a terrorist, correct? (as long as your a
72 Cfalk : My comparison should be between Iraqis not wanting an invading army in their country No it wasn't. It is Sunnis who don't want to change from what the
73 777236ER : It is Sunnis who don't want to change from what they had before Uh, are they not Iraqi citizens? Aren't they entitled to have what THEY want? What rig
74 N79969 : 777236ER, Whether you acknowledge it or not, (you won't) you are essentially saying that Iraqi Sunnis have a birthright as Iraqi citizens to oppress t
75 FDXmech : >>>Uh, are they not Iraqi citizens? Aren't they entitled to have what THEY want? What right does the US have to impose ANYTHING on them?
76 Indianguy : The longer the Americans stay on and deny the Iraqi people the right to self determination, the worse it is going to get. Till now the mercenaries wer
77 Cfalk : The longer the Americans stay on and deny the Iraqi people the right to self determination Roy! Glad to see ya! We need a few laughs. Sorry to rain on
78 Post contains links Covert : We have nuclear weapons.
79 Lehpron : "The USA can't just pull out of Iraq though, that would be like an admission of defeat to the terrorists that are killing off our soldiers. Yes, they
80 Covert : Lehpron, If you don't crap your pants or at least almost crap your pants in a combat zone, then you shouldn't be there. The lack of fear makes you a t
81 UPSfueler : I just found out that the pilot of the chopper that was shot down this weekend lived in my old home town, and it is only a 10 minute drive from me now
82 777236ER : I suppose that the Germans could do whatever they wanted to the Jews because, hey, it was their country. Apples and...well...some kind of pasta? I don
83 Cfalk : tell me why the US and my country has a right to impose something on the Iraqis that they seemingly don't want. Why do you keep saying "The Iraqis". M
84 N79969 : 777236ER, What a poor attempt to defend yourself. You distorted the salient posts of at least 3 people to put yourself back on your imaginary moral hi
85 777236ER : You are making the false assumption that the purpose of the resistance is to defend the sovereinity of Iraq. It isn't. Have you been there? Do you kno
86 Cfalk : Attacks against an occupying army seem pretty clear to me. That's part of your problem. You oversimplify. You also expect others to act as if they had
87 Alpha 1 : That's part of your problem. You oversimplify. Actually, YOU oversimplfy, Charles. You tell us without a doubt that these are terrorists, and complete
88 Cfalk : You tell us without a doubt that these are terrorists You must have me mistaken with somebody else. I specifically said several times that, technicall
89 Post contains images 727LOVER : Didn't President Bush tell our enemies to "BRING IT ON!"? Guess they listened.
90 N79969 : 777236ER, Just read reply 36 before you write another uninformed, oblivious statement. We are not talking about the French resistance during WWII.
91 Indianguy : Charles: Once again you come on here to demonstrate your racist belife that some cultures have some sort of right to "rule" over others. Tell me woul
92 Gekkogecko : Did anyone here remember my Post at the beginnig of this war when I said Russia can't beat the Afghanistan and Amerika will have the same Problems the
93 Cfalk : Charles: Once again you come on here to demonstrate your racist belife that some cultures have some sort of right to "rule" over others. No - YOU are
94 Indianguy : Charles seems to have just come back from Iraq 'cos he has come to the firm conclusion that the guerilla's fighting America are all Sunni. That is the
95 Post contains images Alpha 1 : The war is finished, and the U.S. and its allies won. Really, Charles? Then those 16 Yanks that were blown out of the sky the other day were just taki
96 Post contains links VectorVictor : Most of those being killed in Iraq are of the colored variety, Latino's and Blacks, who in the best of America's imperial traditions are expendable c
97 Alpha 1 : Well, well, Comrade Roy Indianguy. Seems your to Socialistically Correct for your own good. I saw a lot of white boys in that picture, son!! More than
98 Cfalk : Aw, crap. I just wrote a long reply and lost it all to a stupid f&%king mouse error. In (very) short: Roy, you're funny. Alpha, The military deaths ar
99 Post contains links Startvalve : Isn't it funny how most of the people who get on discussion boards and whine about US involvement in Iraq are not even American or Iraqi? For every Ir
100 Post contains images EmiratesA345 : "Camelville." Now why would you call it that? I don't understand what you're getting so upset about! Bombs are not being dropped on your head, and bul
101 Startvalve : And planes aren't flying into your buildings. When is enough enough and we can fight back? please tell me
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