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Hey Gamers: Whats Better For Computer, RAM Or CPU  
User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1209 times:

Looking at the Dell.com website I think the cheapest system with a 3Ghz chip and a 1 Gig ram is US$1860 w/ 17" flatpanel, is this gamer compatible?

Or more broadly, would a slow chip and high RAM work just as well as a fast chip with limited RAM?

Based on trends, in 2 years I should be able to get an 8Ghz desktop cheap, the question is what kind of RAM becomes appropriate to run anything from extreme 3D games to a drafting program to a sim?


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User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1204 times:

answer c) none of the above.
The main factor for a gaming PC is the GRAPHICS CARD.
Look for stand-alone AGP cards that have built-in RAM and not integrated graphics.
64MB is a minimum, 128 not so bad and with 256 you're cooking.
RAM wise, look for the faster DDR-SDRAM rather than "normal" SDRAM, again, 256MB is a minimum, 512MB average and gets cookin' with 1GB.
Processor speed in secondary, nowadays eben the slowest Celeron is above 2GHz.
Cheers,
Will



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User currently offlineSebolino From France, joined May 2001, 3681 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1199 times:

You can play great games with an average cpu, a moderate RAM, and a cheap graphic card. (for example Athlon XP 2000+, 512 Mo, Radeon 9000 if it still exists). This config. is still much more powerful than the best config you could have had 2 or 3 years ago.

Of course if you're a FPS-fanatic that's another story, but many Frame per second doesn't mean more fun, just more money out of your wallet.


User currently offlineKay From France, joined Mar 2002, 1884 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 1188 times:

ram is very important. but do not be fooled, cpu processing power is more important. Look at it that way: choosing which one will get a similar percentage increase, the cpu is far more important.

I tried both. Finally, more important than all of this is the graphics card.


User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1182 times:

The correct answer is: both.

You need a system that fits, a super-duper CPU can do nothing without enough RAM and a proper graphics card.


User currently offlineRalgha From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 1614 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1169 times:

It depends on what type of operations you're doing. For FPS and similar games, graphics card is the biggest bottleneck. For games such as SimCity4, RAM is the bottleneck. With today's CPUs being 3Ghz and above, you don't really need to worry about the CPU for games.

Where you need CPU power is for computationally intense chores, which games usually do not have. CAD tools often use a lot of CPU, especially for auto-routing and similar tasks.



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User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1167 times:

If you're going to be playing a FPS like Delta Force: Blackhawk Down or Medal of Honor Allied Assault and its expansions, then a flat panel monitor isn't the best choice. Having played FPS games on both flat screen and flat panel I've found that flat panel just doesn't seem to refresh fast enough for some games. When I had to get a new monitor after mine went up in smoke, I purchased a 19 inch flat screen monitor for a lot less than even a 15 inch flat panel.

But as everyone else has said, for a FPS game, the video card is the most important issue with RAM right behind it. For SimCity4, even 1gb of DDR RAM is barely enough. The game is really memory demanding or it has a memory leak somewhere.



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User currently offlineLHMark From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1157 times:

You can get the Radeon 9700 video card for around $400. A FANTASTIC card for the money! I loooooove setting all the sliders for maximum detail.


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User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1149 times:

What is an FPS, frame per second? Would an RPG game work like a FPS game?


The meaning of life is curiosity; we were put on this planet to explore opportunities.
User currently offlineDragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3986 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1145 times:

FPS = Frames Per Second and First Person Shooter


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User currently offlineBhill From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 982 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1139 times:

Go with UTA and B757...flat panels suck for gaming as they have a tendancy to "smear" the image during movement....

Cheers,

bob



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User currently offlinePortcolumbus From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1614 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1118 times:

You can get the Radeon 9700 video card for around $400

9700 Pro is about $250. Check out pricewatch.com


User currently offlineCovert From Ghana, joined Oct 2001, 1451 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1109 times:

RAM is important-- up to a point, considering you have an adequate cpu, after which the graphics card kicks in. How much memory the graphics adapter has is also a factor in how hard you can game.

covert



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User currently offlineUTA_flyinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1096 times:

...so true, forgot to mention that.
Check that the computer you're looking to buy has a faster "8X" AGP slot rather than a "4X" like the sh!t we have in this god-forsaken company.
Will



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