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User currently offlineChickenorbeef From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 73 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 855 times:

http://www.peta.org/feat/meatrix

I don't know if any of you have seen this before, but this is kinda funny. By the way, I am not a vegetarian.

COB

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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8764 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 833 times:

Next thing they'll be complaining about would be "plant cruelty", right?

I'm definitely not in favour of factory farming, but it's that "we want it cheap" thing that's most important to people. You don't need to go vegetarian to help stop factory farming; much less you need to support PeTA.



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User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 828 times:

If you listen carefully, you can hear the lettuce scream when it's cut.......

User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5310 posts, RR: 61
Reply 3, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 822 times:

Funny but sadly factual view of farming today.

@ Chickenorbeef: I find it interesting you feel the need to include the disclaimer "I am not a vegetarian". It sounds a lot like when people "xxxx.... but I am not gay".

Jeremiah



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User currently offline707cmf From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 820 times:

Well, at least, it is quite well done.

And by the fact, I do support PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals)

707


User currently offlineCanyonBlue From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 818 times:

I actually could go for a cheeseburger right now, really greasy!
Then some fried chicken and pork chops!

PETA needs to go away....... Far away.

If I pour alfredo sauce on a PETA member and consume them, am I still eating vegan??



User currently offlineGalaxy5 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2034 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 798 times:

So, then is it okay to eat meat when the animals are family farm raised? Thats what im getting from this cartoon.


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User currently offlineBen From Switzerland, joined Aug 1999, 1391 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 795 times:

I saw this a few weeks ago. Very well done. However, I thought it might not be a good idea to post it on this forum, but anyway...

So, then is it okay to eat meat when the animals are family farm raised? Thats what im getting from this cartoon.

Kind of... you're getting the idea. Let me explain.

Even though I choose not to eat meat, I will never ever tell someone else that they are wrong for doing it.

The thing that I am against (and the cartoon makes the same point) is that factory farming is a function of the greed of large corporations.

It is not in the interests of any person or animal, except the company's shareholders who are far-removed from the actual process and most know nothing of it.

I have seen comments on here before which go something like "if it tastes good and it's cheap I dont care how it came to be in my cheeseburger".

I will just say one thing. Causing animals to suffer needlessly is wrong. That is not a word I use very often, but it is wrong. Sure if you want your cheeseburger you have to kill an animal. Fine. Just make sure it is done in a professional, quick and humaine way and don't make the animal suffer through life so it has characterisitcs which you value (ie. inducing anaemia in calves for veal etc).

It is this reasoning that has made the European Union ban battery hens for egg production (starting at a specified time in the future, I can't remember when, but some countries like Germany are banning it sooner). There is at least one major supermarket which does not sell any non-free range eggs now - a step in the right direction.

Anyway, thanks for reading... I'm not trying to convert anyone. Just my opinion.

Ben


User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 782 times:

Well there's an education!
I want to believe, if more people paid more attention to how the food products they eat and serve to their friends and family really came to be, there just might be a lot fewer cases of cancer in our population.
I'm not what one might call a big animal lover (no jokes, please)... But, I'm of the opinion if the meats and veggies we consume are raised with more concern for quality and not so much for currency then we all eat healthy... Vegetarian or not.

cheers
A.W.


User currently onlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8367 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 761 times:

Even though I choose not to eat meat, I will never ever tell someone else that they are wrong for doing it.

But that website and all the links I saw are saying that. They makes "meat eaters" seem like the outlaws. People who think there are just 2 classifications of people based on diet can go jump up my butt. I had nothing against the movie till that damn "go vegetarian" thing popped up at the end. They can take the pill and shove it.

PS- Pam Anderson, a vegetarian? Ha! I'm sure she eats plenty of meat  Big thumbs up.



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User currently offlineSaintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 731 times:

An interesting observation that I heard the other day.

If its okay to eat plants (vegetables) how come so many of them make it hard to eat? Many are either poisonous, thorny, tasteless or bad tasting etc and they have become that way over time specifically to avoid being eaten (either by man or animal) and in order that the plant can survive. This seems to suggest that plants have feelings or a conciousness too.


User currently offlineStarFlyer From Germany, joined Sep 2002, 987 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 720 times:

Hi,

thanks for this interesting link. Knew most of it already, but I think the aim of this is to open more peoples eyes regarding where their meat comes from. Personally I do think it is fine to eat meat but I do give a thought into where it comes from, buy local produce etc.
One very wise man said once that food has actually gotten too cheap! Thus many people have lost appreciation for it or dont know how it is made, this affecting meat in particular.
I think the point of PETA is wrong, many people you cant turn into vegetarians (my girlfriend tried for 3 years) but instead they should raise awareness and show alternatives or sources for "better" meat.

Saintsman, the reason why plants protect themselves is evolution. The plants that are easily eaten will die out sooner, so the ones that protect themselves will survive.
Or say a variant of a plant that used to be easy to eat comes up and it doesnt taste good or whatever. This variant has a good chance of spreading further because it will not be picked or harvested. Hence more and more plants will protect themselves. In a way it is "survival of the fittest". Obviously this process is very very slow and takes place over thousands of years.
However plants do not have feelings. they do not have nerves, nor a brain. If you arent thinking, you dont have feelings.
Animals are thinking (not as much as humans, but to a degree) so they definitely have feelings.



Yours truly - StarFlyer
User currently offlineSaintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 706 times:

StarFlyer

If a plant has no nerves, brain or feelings why would they care whether they are eaten or not? Why would they want to evolve?

Food (no pun intended) for thought.


User currently offlineStarFlyer From Germany, joined Sep 2002, 987 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 701 times:

They do not care! But the ones that are eaten are less likely to reproduce. And the ones that are not eaten (because of taste, poison, thorns etc) will be able reproduce. Logical isnt it?
Are you arguing a plant has a brain? Big grin



Yours truly - StarFlyer
User currently offlineSaintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 697 times:

No, I do not think that they have a brain.

It's an arguement for vegetarians. If it is not okay to eat animals, why is it okay to eat plants when a lot of them go to extremes to avoid being eaten?


User currently offlineBen From Switzerland, joined Aug 1999, 1391 posts, RR: 50
Reply 15, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 690 times:

Saintsman, this is getting a bit silly.

I suggest you read "Origin of Species" by Charles Darwin.

I just had a look and it's £5.99 (excluding postage) from Amazon.co.uk. Dispatched in 24 hours.

Plants are not "thinking" about saving themselves. Normally occuring variations in the genes of all living things which allow one individual to survive when another dies means that the one which had the benificial trait will reproduce and pass on that trait to it's offspring.

Please don't use the "plants have feelings" excuse to bash vegetarians. Come on, you know what is going on.


User currently offlineSaintsman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 2065 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 664 times:

It is very easy to dismiss plants because they have no feelings and therefore it is right for them to be eaten. I'm not really saying plants have feelings but perhaps there is more to a plant than we understand. If there was not a problem why is it that some plants are not edible, after all if they were put on earth for our use they would all be edible.

I have no qualms about eating meat or vegetables. I only raised the subject because I thought that it was not a view that you hear often and does raise a valid point. I don't think that plants have feelings either.



User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 17, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 663 times:

An imaginative and most probably true depiction of what does happen in farming today.

Though some points may have been exaggerated, I cannot say if that is true or not as I don't know much about farming anyway.



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