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A Warning From Al Qaeda...  
User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2330 posts, RR: 11
Posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2217 times:

This was from debka's website...www.debka.com...
Just to add to our discussions lately, this is just to let you know a possible future...
Hope this is nothing but...

"Monday, November 24, Al Qaeda marked Eid al Fitr, the festival closing the Muslim festival of Ramadan, with a dramatic warning. DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources reports that a message published over al Qaeda’s electronic channels and websites declared that the countdown has begun for the biggest operation ever carried out in the United States. “The big blow will fall very shortly. It will consist of a series of surprise attacks that will cut America off from communication with its armies in Muslim countries.” The reference is clearly to US troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The largest number, around 115,000 soldiers, is present in Iraq.

Muslims living in the United States are urged to “take advantage of the short time left” to escape the country and harm’s way.

Some of the messages say that a new Osama bin Laden videotape will soon be out. It will also carry statements by al Qaeda members who executed the last suicide attacks in Saudi Arabia and adherents who died in clashes with Saudi security. They will be shown describing how they were prepared for action. Bin Laden will intersperse these cuts with comments explaining the selection of Saudi targets.

DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources report that some of the new messages are signed by Abu Assam al Yamani, who also threatens to murder Abdul Rahman Rashid, editor of the Saudi London-based paper Sharq al Awsat. Al Yamani says the al Qaeda passed sentence of death against the editor because he not only met President George W. Bush in the British capital last week but interviewed him and appeared with the president in a joint photo."



"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
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User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2188 times:

Has the Muslim community formally spoke out against these extremists?


Go big or go home
User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2330 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2182 times:

Lets see if Ossama releases a new music video...Then we can see how the Muslim world reacts...

I don't know if they care, jubilate or condemn such threats...

Boaz...



"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2171 times:

First of all, this is from Debka. 98% of their stories are on the level of the Weekly World News so be skeptical anything they say.

As for this "threat", I say "Another one?" I think this is the third or fourth in the last month alone. They keep saying something will happen during "RamaBomb" and all they've been able to do is blow up fellow Muslims in the Middle East.

Seems like Al-Qaeda doesn't have much power projection ability left so they have to blow up people in their "backyard".



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User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2330 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2148 times:

Watch out for what you deny!

I read a warning for terror attacks in Turkey last Wednesday and we all know what happened the following day...

They have very good intelligence...

Boaz...



"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2127 times:

Oddly enough, as much as Debka file is clearly very one-sided, virtuallly everything they have reported has happened most or less when they said it would. So propaganda or not, I now tend to give it a little creedance when it comes to predictions. Lastly, this current threat is now making the rounds on the major news channels also.

Jeremy


User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2330 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2119 times:

Jeremy I think we started out the same...

My father recommended Debka, I took one look at it, but said that it was a propaganda site, but as I read more and more as time went on, I realized how far in advance information was posted, also predicted events...

For instance the UN report that stated, that Al Qaeda are going to use Chemical or Bio weapons as soon as possible...
It took almost a week before CNN posted it on their newsbar...

Boaz...



"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
User currently offlineBobrayner From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2073 times:

Has the Muslim community formally spoke out against these extremists?

Yes, of course it has.

Next question?




Cunning linguist
User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2062 times:

Yeah, can you please have of the your next question? Is that possible warning for Al Qaeda to trying enter at United States or something else with the another country? You really need to be very carefully to keep bad guys off of their plane and ours country, too.

User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4480 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2039 times:

Bring the bastards on. I hope the US fries their sorry asses. Sons of bitches with no regard for human life.  Angry

I am talking about the terrorists only, before someone starts screaming at me.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2032 times:

Aloha717200, stop quoting Geroge W. Bush. What? Have not enough Americans died in the last few months for you?

When Bush said what you did, the Iraqi insurgency complied, didn't they?

People trying to show how big their testicles are.....


User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4480 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2026 times:

I'm not quoting Bush. I'm speaking how I feel. I'm pissed off at them. I'm sick of their utter disregard for human life. Can you blame me?

I'm not a Bush supporter at all.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2024 times:

You virtually quoted Bush word for word, when asked a few months back about the Iraqi insurgency. He said the same thing. They don't need any encouragement, trust me.

User currently offlineQANTASFOREVER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2019 times:

...It will consist of a series of surprise attacks...

They are warning us about surprise attacks now? Geez - looks like we're making progress - they couldn't organise a look out the window!

QFF


User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2011 times:

"Some of the messages say that a new Osama bin Laden videotape will soon be out."

He was killed on the third day of the Afganistan storm with a cruise missile! Why are they stretching this war if the f*cker is dead!? What about the other 12 under Saddam, where thay at?



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User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4480 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2010 times:

I didn't know he had said that. I'd heard that Bush had said "Bring it on" but my post wasnt intended to copy his words.

I'm just pissed off at their threats. I'd like to see them try to enter a western nation and have every one of them captured as soon as they landed on ours or one of our allies' soil. But I'm scared to death of what they could do if they got into a country undetected. The only way we can find them is if they come out of the woodwork. And when they do we need to be prepared. I hope the US, and every other country in the world, keeps their eyes open.

If we ever captured Osama, I wonder what his punishment would be. The death penalty would make him a martyr, life in prison would inspire other terrorists to try and break him out, perhaps it's best we dont know what his fate would be.


User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4480 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2008 times:

He was killed on the third day of the Afganistan storm with a cruise missile!

No, he wasn't. He's still alive.


User currently offlineWorldVoyager From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2003 times:

Has the Muslim community formally spoke out against these extremists?

What do you mean by the "Muslim community"? There is no single homogeneous Muslim group headed by any sole, specific hierachy so it is not possible for such an "official" statement. But yes, obviously, many Muslims have spoken out against extremists.


User currently offlineWindshear From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 2330 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1993 times:

Worldvoyager...

Well yes and no...
They have communities in the west and they have religious leaders in every country, most of whom encourage hatred and the visions of Osama...

So this is a problem, and a very appropriate question!

Also Lehpron, here have you heard that Osama has been killed?
Or is it just a mean for us to shut up?
There was tapes of him commenting the up to date news from December of 2001, many days after the war in Afghanistan started...

Boaz...



"If you believe breaking is possible, believe in fixing also"-Rebbe Nachman
User currently offlineBobrayner From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1979 times:

They have communities in the west and they have religious leaders in every country, most of whom encourage hatred and the visions of Osama...

Really? Who are all these hatred-inciting Muslim community leaders in the West?

Maybe the few that I know - who are very critical of terrorism - are all in a minority. That must be quite a coincidence.

Even more strangely, none of my Muslim friends and colleagues want to blow themselves up in public places, or push Israel into the Mediterranean, or burn Bush at the stake. Maybe I've been associating with another tiny, unrepresentative minority.



Cunning linguist
User currently offlineCicadajet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1975 times:

I fear this report may indeed be dreadful news.

Seems to me the US is far too vulnerable and has not got the job done with regard to Al Quida.

Hope I am wrong.



User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1958 times:

If we ever captured Osama, I wonder what his punishment would be.

I'd love to put him in a cage, with just bars to protection, and, beginning by Ground Zero, parade him for one year around the US like the animal he is, for people to spit at and curse at, and whatever. Then, you put him in solitary on a starvation in a 5x5 cell above the artic circle, and see how long he can hack it. Then when he dies, you put him in a batch of concrete, and make him the cornerstone for the new WTC.

That sounds good to me.


User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1959 times:

Then when he dies, you put him in a batch of concrete, and make him the cornerstone for the new WTC.


Oooooooo!!! Can we make it a glass brick so we can see him for ever and ever?


User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4480 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1955 times:

I'd like to see them tie a rope around his legs, and suspend him upside down in the middle of Times Square, and lower him little by little each day, till he's within arm's reach of the new yorkers, who will henceforth have their way with him. Big grin

Either that, or some karmic justice: Give him a sex change operation, and then send him to prison to become Bubba's Bitch. Big grin


User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1953 times:

Give him a sex change operation, and then send him to prison to become Bubba's Bitch.

He'll be Bubba's Bitch either way.  Big grin


25 Airplay : Has the Muslim community formally spoke out against these extremists? Wouldn't that imply some sort of ownership or obligation to al Qaeda? Do Christi
26 Marco : Just like the KKK "believes in America as a Christian nation". Do Christians have to continuously apologize on their behalf? No but Christian extremis
27 Airplay : No but Christian extremism and violence is condemned by most Christians, Churches, etc... Right. But you don't see anyone asking Christians directly t
28 Artsyman : Al Qaeda is a terrorist group that just happens to have a great deal of Muslims in its ranks. Not all that surprising considering the region the organ
29 Cicadajet : > Are you for real? I guess this is what happens when the US President insists on fighting an "ISM" and talks about "evil doers". Al Queda is an organ
30 Artsyman : Do you also know that the first few pages of the Al Queda training manual, it states "One of the most important and efficient ways to disable and dest
31 Covert : Has the Muslim community formally spoke out against these extremists? As others have said, the Ummah is not the Catholic Church. Our only organised le
32 Cfalk : And Christian related activism isn't capable of "threatening world stability"? Arguably, the Christian faith shares responsibility for much of the ins
33 Covert : Most that I know are the same. But what pisses me off about them is that the moderate Muslims don't get off their asses and DO something about all the
34 Cfalk : What should they do, Charles? Take arms and stoop down to violence just like them? I did not say that, Covert. I mean make their positions known. The
35 Covert : Remember the adage - It's not what you say that is important, it's what people hear Certainly true, however, finding a conduit for the voice to travel
36 Marco : Right. But you don't see anyone asking Christians directly to apologize for the KKK. Because some Christians don't want to take ownership of the KKK.
37 Gc : "Missionaries continue to "spread the word" by offering to help build infrastructure in developing countries with one catch...the population must subm
38 Covert : The Christian west is the best place today to practise your religion and not be worried about anything. What area is demarcated as "the Christian West
39 Cfalk : What area is demarcated as "the Christian West?" I should then say, you can practise the Islamic religion in Saudi Arabia and not fear anything. He me
40 Marco : I should then say, you can practise the Islamic religion in Saudi Arabia and not fear anything. Can you practise the Buddhist, Christian, Hindu faith
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