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Big Al-Qaeda Figure Arrested In Yemem  
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1214 times:

Some good news on the real war on terror.

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20031125161509990003&_mpc=news%2e6

Yemen Arrests Top al-Qaida Figure
By AHMED AL-HAJ, AP

SAN'A, Yemen (Nov. 25) -- Security forces on Tuesday captured one of the top al-Qaida members in Yemen, a suspected mastermind of the deadly suicide bombings of the USS Cole and a French oil tanker off the country's coast.

Mohammed Hamdi al-Ahdal was arrested after Yemeni forces surrounded his hide-out west of the capital, San'a, the Interior Ministry said in a statement carried on the official SABA news agency.

A U.S. counterterrorism official in Washington confirmed al-Ahdal's capture. The official said he had been among the top 20 al-Qaida figures at large.

Al-Ahdal played a role in the terror group's finances, weapons smuggling and operational planning and was well-connected to other extremists in Persian Gulf countries, the official said.

In neighboring Saudi Arabia, meanwhile, security forces foiled a planned terror attack in the capital Tuesday, killing two militants and seizing a car bomb ready to detonate on the first day of festivities marking the end of Ramadan, the Saudi government said.

Al-Ahdal, also known as Abu Assem al-Makky, is one of the two main leaders of Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network in Yemen, according to security reports published in the Yemeni press.

Yemeni security officials believe the Saudi-born al-Ahdal, 32, was one of the masterminds of the 2000 bombing of the Cole, which killed 17 U.S. sailors, and the 2002 bombing of the French oil tanker Limburg.

In each of those attacks, an explosive-laden boat was piloted up to the larger ship and detonated. The Limburg attack killed a Bulgarian crew member and spilled 90,000 barrels of oil into the Gulf of Aden.

Al-Ahdal, who is on the U.S. list of wanted terrorists in Yemen, also was accused of planning an abortive attack last year on a five-star hotel where some FBI investigators were staying.

The Interior Ministry statement said al-Ahdal was found after several months of extensive efforts by security forces.

Witnesses said security forces fired in the air to force al-Ahdal to surrender. The official statement did not mention any shooting.

Al-Ahdal has been described as the main coordinator of al-Qaida activities in Yemen, ranking second to Qaed Salim Sinan al-Harethi, bin Laden's top lieutenant in Yemen who was killed last November in a missile attack from a CIA-operated Predator drone.

Al-Harethi, who was in his mid-40s, was believed to have coordinated the attack on the Cole. He first met bin Laden in the 1980s during the war against Soviet occupation in Afghanistan, and the two met again in Sudan, where bin Laden went in the 1990s.

Yemeni media reported that al-Harethi was replaced in the al-Qaida hierarchy by Abu Ali el-Kandahari.

The Yemeni security reports say al-Ahdal fought in Bosnia and in Chechnya, where he lost his left leg below the knee and was fitted with an artificial leg. He allegedly traveled several times to Afghanistan in 1999 and 2000, and to Ethiopia in August 2000.

Al-Ahdal was arrested in Saudi Arabia in 1999 and spent 14 months in prison for maintaining connections with bin Laden. He was then deported to Yemen.

He is married and has four children.

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Another scumbag off the streets. I love the last line about his family life.  Laugh out loud


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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1201 times:

Nice cut and paste.  Big thumbs up

User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1196 times:

Lets send him to Guantanamo and after we extract all we need to know, put him before a tribunal.


"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1194 times:

Nice cut and paste.

Yes, I know such a think is difficult for you, JeffM, so I'm glad you appreciate something that's really so simple.  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1194 times:

It's just that you are so good at it.... Wow!

User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1191 times:

Wish I could say you're good at something, but I haven't figured out what that might be, except for puttind down those who refute anything you believe in, without actually having sound arguments in return.

I know, long sentences like that confuse you. Sorry.  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1190 times:

I never said I believed any of that stuff did I? Down boy down...

Alpo, you were saying something about long sentences? Continue please, we are all waiting desparately to hear you mutter something else...




User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1184 times:

I never said I believed any of that stuff did I?

That's what I've been trying to find out-WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE? All I see are insults torwards anyone who doesn't agree with the GOP or Bush, but what do YOU think on subjects? That's what I've been trying to drag the hell out of you. Debate the fucking issues that are being brought up, OK? That's why I give you shit, man! Can't you figure that out by now.

And again stop embarrassing yourself by intentionally misspelling my handle. It embarrasses me not at all, but it sure makes you look bad.


User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1182 times:

No, most of the insults here are pointed toward you. I don't really want to debate, I'm just tired of listening to you here. Nothing more, nothing less. Sorry about the "handle" "good buddy". Smokin cool



User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1179 times:

If that's the case, you're even more worthless than I first thought. I still think it's because you can't think of anything on your own, and are so mentally inept this is the best you can do.

But keep embarrassing yourself, JeffM. I've outlasted much better people than you on here.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29784 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1158 times:

The real war on terror?

Is there one made from Soybeans or plastic?

But back to the subject, the Yemeni's dun did gut  Big thumbs up

And another one bites the dust.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineBobrayner From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1143 times:

Lets send him to Guantanamo and after we extract all we need to know, put him before a tribunal.

Traditionally, punishment follows after trial.



Cunning linguist
User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1140 times:

How you even find out about terrorist in Yemen was capture with CIA or FBI. How is possible you thought know about those al-qaeda by the terrorist list from FBI. Keep with those bad guys off from their country in USA either. Is that was going to the prison into the long time.

User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1128 times:

No, L-188, the war in Iraq had nothing to do with terror. It had everything to do with neocon worldview. Is that clearer for you?

(soon to be followed by mindless, thoughtless barbs from JeffM, which will be ignored, as all his shit will be from now on.)


User currently offlineCommander_Rabb From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 771 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1124 times:

Welcome to the Guantanamo Bay Country Club! Please check your bags at the concierge.

American Express accepted.





User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1122 times:

Commander rabb, you're a pretty sick person, to get some pleasure out of that, even if some of these guys deserve it.

The Ugly American rises again.


User currently offlineCommander_Rabb From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 771 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1120 times:



Head down, broken, in shackles, and being escorted to dinner.

Yeah, I like that.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1112 times:

Yeah, I like that.

Yes, I thought you liked being branded an Ugly American. Thanks for agreeing with me.


User currently offlineCicadajet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1107 times:

Thomas Sowel. Jan 10 2002

<< In a war, you do not read Miranda rights to captured enemy soldiers or let them phone their attorneys. If you catch them behind your lines not wearing their own uniforms, you can legally shoot them as spies. If international terrorism is not quite the same as war, it is also not the same as ordinary domestic crime, so maybe you need some new institutions to deal with it. But you don't just blithely give international terrorists all the same rights as your own citizens in ordinary courts of law.

After World War II, when people really were serious, Nazi war criminals were tried in a court created for that occasion, enforcing international norms that had never been put into law before. These war criminals were then hanged without undue delay or hand-wringing. Why today's terrorists deserve any better is hard to see. >>


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29784 posts, RR: 58
Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1101 times:

In other news, slightly related, the USS Cole went back to sea the day before yesterday, after being repained following that terrorist attack this guy is accused of planning.




OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineCommander_Rabb From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 771 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1099 times:

"Why today's terrorists deserve any better is hard to see."

Correct, they should not deserve better. They deserve worse. They get too much indirect sympathy because the United States is perceived as the cowboy going it alone and other nations want to have a sit down with these criminals and talk it out.

People today have a warped sense of reality. They think we live in some sort of daisyland where everything in life is fair and with a little sympathetic talk everything will be juuuuuuuust fine. These terrorist thugs would just as soon shoot you in the head than listen to the first strings of Kumbaya.

War is ugly. Make the decision, plan your battle, fight to the end, but lets make the other s.o.b. die for his cause first! That's how you win wars and that's how the United States is going to win this war on terrorism. Plain and simple.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1094 times:

Commander rabb, you and I don't agree often or see eye to eye, but you're absolutely on the money with that last post.

User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Reply 22, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1072 times:

In other news, slightly related, the USS Cole went back to sea the day before yesterday, after being repained following that terrorist attack this guy is accused of planning.

Repained?? You mean repaired or repainted??

Chris



Lets do some sexy math. We add you, subtract your clothes, divide your legs and multiply
User currently offlineBobrayner From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1067 times:

Head down, broken, in shackles, and being escorted to dinner.

Yeah, I like that.


Please, remind us - what were these people convicted of? What is the evidence against them? Where, in the irksome Geneva convention, is there a clause allowing you to create an entirely new category of prisoner without the rights of either POW or spy or citizen?



Cunning linguist
User currently offlineMarco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1068 times:

The Geneva convention applies to conventional fighters. Not terrorists who target 3,000 innocent people. They deserve worse treatment (ie: the treatment they would get in their native lands).


Proud to be an Assyrian!
25 Bobrayner : The Geneva convention applies to conventional fighters. Not terrorists who target 3,000 innocent people. They deserve worse treatment (ie: the treatme
26 Marco : The Geneva convention applies to combatants engaged in conventional warfare. Not terrorists. Terrorists are not POW. With moral superiority comes just
27 Bobrayner : The Geneva convention applies to combatants engaged in conventional warfare. Not terrorists. Terrorists are not POW. So, it's labelled a war when it s
28 Bobrayner : With moral superiority comes justice. Swift justice. Some might think that "Swift justice" is incompatible with "A year or two of imprisonment & inter
29 Post contains links BarfBag : The Geneva convention applies to combatants engaged in conventional warfare. Not terrorists. Terrorists are not POW. http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon
30 Go Canada! : and where did al-queda respect the geneva convention bob rayner? what noone has expalined to me is how all these innocent people just ahppened to be a
31 Post contains images Marco : So, it's labelled a war when it suits you, but not when it doesn't suit you? So targetting 3,000 innocent human beings is not terrorism? Incredible
32 BarfBag : and where did al-queda respect the geneva convention Why is that an issue ? Hermann Goering, Ernst Kaltenbrunner et al didn't exactly follow the Genev
33 Marco : al qaeda didn't respect the convention. The terrorists are not conventional fighters and therefore they should not be treated as such. Treating them a
34 Go Canada! : why is it an issue then barbag that the status of these people is unclear?
35 CPH-R : The funny thing is, these guys were fighting a WAR in Afghanistan, trying to protect the Taliban government. They weren't flying the planes into WTC,
36 BarfBag : why is it an issue then barbag that the status of these people is unclear? I'm not sure what you're asking. My statement was that the Germans were acc
37 Bobrayner : have you noticed those against america havent welcomed this capture? Against America? Binary politics again? Personally, I welcome the capture. That d
38 Windshear : Europeans you keep mentioning proof, trust or fair... Why don't you believe? What you rather believe the terrorists? Just imagine how they would treat
39 Go Canada! : bob, wheres u evidence to say they werent at camps. why were over 1000 people apparently in afghanistan then? they werent aid workers.
40 CPH-R : Why did many Danes, Norweigans etc. go to Finland prior to WW2? They weren't there as aid workers too.... I think most of those people are/were convin
41 Go Canada! : "I think most of those people are/were convinced that the US attack on Afghanistan was a part of a Christian crusade against their religion" well so t
42 Post contains images Bobrayner : I still don't understand how long-term imprisonment & interrogation without trial is a part of Swift justice. bob, wheres u evidence to say they weren
43 CPH-R : Go Canada! - isn't Jerusalem already seized by the Israelis? I remember reading that it was supposed to be international territory, but that the Israe
44 Bobrayner : well so they are stupid as well then? stupid enough to believe the nonense peddled by al aqueda. if there was to be a christain crusade against islam
45 Commander_Rabb : Some of you want to give these Al-Qaeda members all the luxuries of our laws, conventions, and our sympathy. While all these Al-Qaeda members could ca
46 Marco : "An insult to veterans" is a new argument, but unfortunately it doesn't appear in many laws that I know of, and certainly not the Convention I never s
47 Post contains images CPH-R : Gee, Rabb, I hope you're not caught by any extremists, because then you would be tortured, since they know what you want to do to them... - it works b
48 Marco : Showing great restraint? In what way? You mean, they should have attacked straight away on 12/09 2001? I think you'd find it had more to do with the l
49 Post contains links CPH-R : Marco, You didn't answer my question - were they supposed to attack the following day with 0 soldiers and a limited Carrier cover? I say no, so the gr
50 Marco : You didn't answer my question - were they supposed to attack the following day with 0 soldiers and a limited Carrier cover? I say no, so the great res
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