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Missile Attack Filmed By Militants  
User currently offlinePKK From Denmark, joined Apr 2003, 184 posts, RR: 2
Posted (11 years 1 month 4 days ago) and read 4845 times:

Any one has the video or a link?

Missile attack filmed by militants

A VIDEO showing a masked militant firing the missile that hit a DHL civilian cargo jet over Baghdad, setting its engine ablaze in the first successful hit on a plane of the seven-month-old insurgency, has been delivered to a French journalist.

Here's the link:

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,7973541%255E28102,00.html

72 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlinePanAmerican From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 384 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (11 years 1 month 4 days ago) and read 4695 times:

That is just plain sick if you ask me... These terrorists even film their "heroic" deeds, what can you say about that?
If the plane really had exploded, it would have been a justified punishment for the terrorist to get hit by some airplane parts, maybe the rotating engine.

PKK: I don't have a link and I'm not really keen on seeing more of these nutcases destroying our freedom and way of life.
Could you, by any chance, explain to us why your member name is that of a Kurdish terror organization?
Is that why you want to see the video?

 CryingPA



Pan Am - The World's Most Experienced Airline.
User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8198 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4567 times:

PanAmerican, "I'm not really keen on seeing more of these nutcases destroying our freedom and way of life." By invading a country like Iraq, aren't we destroying other people's way of life? I mean, 40,000 dead Iraqis! Come on, who is the bad guy? Not as black and white as your pantomime indignation would suggest.


fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineZak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1993 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4547 times:

i have pointed out this sick habit in another thread before, had a link of the actual video of a russian chopper being downed by chechen rebels yelling allahu akbar. sick stuff. i can look for it and repost it if anyone is interested.


10=2
User currently offlineKl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5305 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4473 times:

And it's even worse that it's posted by a member with a terrorist username!!!
Thats sick!


User currently offlineTravatl From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2174 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4444 times:

I'm with Cedarjet on this one. Although, I certainly don't support the loss of American (or Iraqi) lives, if this were America that had been invaded, these so called "civilian terrorists" would be referred to as "resistance" or "freedom fighters".

Travis


User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4433 times:

If the UK and USA continue to do their thing in the middle east I'm sorry to say this will just happen more and more.

User currently offlinePKK From Denmark, joined Apr 2003, 184 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4371 times:

All......

My user name........ simply my initials.... OK!!!

Yes I think it is sick to show videos like this over and over again... and I have no intention to do so!

If you would care to check my profile before making judgments and allegations, you might be able to figure out for yourself why I asked this forum, that for the most part consists of serious minded aviation enthusiasts and professionals, for assistance.

Peter


User currently offlineKl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5305 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4363 times:

'''If the UK and USA continue to do their thing in the middle east I'm sorry to say this will just happen more and more.'''

If sadam was still there he would still be killing his own people. Rumours are he killed millions. Even if the US & UK didn't invade Iraq you have people everywhere around the world waiting for a chance to shoot down a western airliner....


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8198 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4192 times:

I couldn't be less of a fan of Saddam but KL911, "if Saddam was still there he would still be killing his own people. Rumours are he killed millions." US and UK backed UN sanctions killed millions. Saddam did not. A bad man to be sure, but he was our best mate in the Middle East in the 80s when he was at his worst (witness what he did to Iran, as well as his own people) but going and killing 40,000 Iraqis to get rid of him and still not finding him and bringing him to justice is not the right way to go about changing things over there. Add into the equation the hundreds of dead American soldiers (which brings me no joy whatsoever, quite the opposite in fact) and the hundreds more who are now living but will die there.

Zak, you are a walking contradiction habibi. "I have pointed out this sick habit in another thread before, had a link of the actual video of a Russian chopper being downed by Chechen rebels yelling Allahu akbar. Sick stuff. I can look for it and repost it if anyone is interested." Is it sick or not? If so, why are you so keen to promote it and encourage others to watch it. (And if you were a Chechen, I think you might just be praising god at the sight of a Russian chopper being brought down.)



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User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4159 times:

well,not sure we should be having commercial traffic in or around the area yet, let the military do it, they kind of expect to be shot down, leave the commercial aircraft and innocent pilots out of the danger zone

User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8663 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4006 times:

This is too weird. As I'm reading this thread, I look up at the TV and MSNBC is showing the video.

User currently offlineIrishpower From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 386 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3931 times:

." US and UK backed UN sanctions killed millions. Saddam did not

Cedarjet, are you insane????

Now I agree that not finding Saddam or his WMD has been an issue but let's be honest here, the Iraqi people are way better off without Saddam or his sons in power. We can debate the policies of the US and UK governments until we are blue in the face--but the fact stands that the world is a better place without this NUT in power!!!




User currently offlineAirtahitinui From French Polynesia, joined Jul 2001, 79 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3933 times:

Wow - cedarjet knows everything, I'm impressed. We should all be ashamed...


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User currently offlineIwantaBBJ From Switzerland, joined Jun 2002, 777 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 3742 times:
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Well, I wonder if "they" knew that they were firing "only" on a cargo-plane, rather than a passenger-plane with much more lives at stake....

Or maybe it was the only plane passing by when they were there....

Mike


User currently offlineSRD737NG From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 136 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3578 times:

It is amazing to me how fast people forget what happened on September 11th, 2001. Bush made the promise to hunt these guys down and fight terrorism. Everyone sure was behind him then. There were/are lots of terrorists in Iraq, and if you don't think that Saddam and his men weren't pumping money to terrorism groups, you're blind. If someone doesn't step up to the plate and do something about it, like Bush and Blair are doing, then September 11th will happen over and over b/c these terrorist groups will keep multiplying again and again. Then all the 'war protesters' would come out after a couple thousand more innocent civilians working in their offices in NYC or elsewhere are killed and say "Oh gee willikers, why does this keep happening?? We need to talk about this, let's just sit down with Akmad and Muhammad and talk this out peacefully man." ---- NO! This doesn't work. We need to invade, and hunt these people and the ones funding them one by one, and kill them. Hopefully our troops in Iraq will do this and prevent more incidents such as this DHL missile attack in the future, or more importantly, keep it from happening on US or UK soil.

User currently offlineZak From Greenland, joined Sep 2003, 1993 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3456 times:

@Cedarjet
yes i think its sick however i am quite sure there are ppl who are interested in seeing it, just like i was before i have seen it. i dont agree with iraqis shooting sa-14s at dhl planes either, but i would still watch the vid if of it if i had access to it. not approving something doesnt mean im not interested in watching it.



10=2
User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8663 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3456 times:

Hey SRD737NG, go buy youself a violin uh. Let me ask you something. If you're so brave why aren't you there fighting? That's what I thought. Talk is cheap.
Let's keep this crap out of this forum.


User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1925 posts, RR: 32
Reply 18, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 3440 times:

SRD737NG,

So you are saying that the US (and allies) should attack and kill to save the lives of people working in their offices.
Innocent civilians are everywhere and I can't see how one soul can be more important or even less important than another.
Another 9/11 can be prevented without going insane.

About the film, it's simple technology and widely available to everyone. The US bombers film and show them on major networks and now the militants are doing it. It's war in Iraq, expect to see more.


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11154 posts, RR: 59
Reply 19, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3342 times:

Irishpower,

Please read CedarJet's post again. He never said the Iraqi people were better off with Saddam. He is simply saying that Saddam was supported by the west in the 80's.

That's all he was saying. If you read the post, you will see that he opposes Saddam as does any good-hearted person on this planet.

SRD737NG,

Please don't tell me Saddam supported Al-Qaeda carry-out 9/11.

Osama Bin Laden hates Saddam Hussein and always will hate him. Saddam ran a socialist government and Osama hates socialists. While these two are indeed villains, they hated each other and would never help each other out.

Infact, in the past. Al-Qaeda has carried out terrorist attacks against Iraq over the years targetting Saddam and his regime.

So don't tell me taking out Saddam was part of the fight against Osama Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda because it wasn't.

Regards

[Edited 2003-11-25 20:32:30]


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineSRD737NG From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 136 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3260 times:

Oh please Airbazar....I was responding to posts above. As an American, I can certainly have an opinion and express it as I did. Comments like yours show exactly what kind of person you are. (Finished wasting time with you now.)

And OD720....you have the "peace-loving Volkswagen bus attitude". Not going to work against terrorists my friend, plain and simple. Either we go get them, or we sit idle and let the politicians "talk it out" while these terrorist groups organize and organize, and train and train....BOOM. Another 9-11. Open your darn eyes and support your country. Oh, and are you trying to compare what we are doing in Iraq to what terrorists did in NYC and DC? Boy, I hope not.



User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2507 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3229 times:

"So you are saying that the US (and allies) should attack and kill to save the lives of people working in their offices.
Innocent civilians are everywhere and I can't see how one soul can be more important or even less important than another.
Another 9/11 can be prevented without going insane."


----------------------

So OD720, what's your solution? Sit back and wait for additional terrorist attacks on innocent civilians while trying to negotiate with terrorists and nation's that support terrorism? That'll work, I'm sure....

Maybe Churchill and Roosevelt should have tried to negotiate with Hitler a little more before committing to war....

I think we can draw parallels to this in today's world:

"So that there can be no possible misunderstanding, both Germany and Japan can be certain, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that America will continue the fight for freedom until no vestige of resistance remains!"

-- Harry S. Truman in his April 16, 1945, address before Congress
following the death of Franklin D. Roosevelt






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User currently offlineIfly2eat From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3220 times:

This thread really shows the complete lack of intelligence this site has. Are you morons actually saying that the world was a better place with Saddam in it. I guess the countries in the world that stand up and make hard decisions are the ones that targeted by half wits. Please!


Fly the friendly skys and stay out of mine.
User currently offlineMotech722 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 211 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3218 times:

PKK and all, if you're at all interested in seeing the video, it is available on http://www.foxnews.com. Fox News, CNN, and MSNBC have been showing it on TV throughout the day, some pretty scary stuff. I see that you're in Denmark, so not sure if any of the stations there are showing it, but it is chilling to see. The video follows the missile from the tube up to contact with the A300, striking the wing. The media was reporting it was only a 2.5-pound warhead, and that luckily the missile hit the wing and not the engine, otherwise it could have been disastrous.

DHL said the damaged Airbus A300 cargo plane was departing from Baghdad to Bahrain at 0630 GMT. Besides DHL, I heard that supposedly the only other airline flying into Iraq currently is Royal Jordanian, but they have stopped flights since this attack.

Take Care all


User currently offlineSRD737NG From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 136 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (11 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3195 times:

BA-

No, I was not saying that Saddam was directly responsible for 9-11. I said that we need to go after Saddam b/c he has a terrorist group of his own that is certainly capable of causing events like that of 9-11, and funding them. I realize that they are two different groups....


25 Airbazar : Sorry SRD737NG, I completely forgot Americans are the only people entitled to have an opinion. How stupid of me. By the way, I was refering to the fac
26 SRD737NG : Let me get this straight Airbazar: The effects of 9-11 and terrorism that I was talking about in my post have nothing to do with Civil Aviation?? I be
27 Qwerty : Sorry SRD737NG, I completely forgot Americans are the only people entitled to have an opinion. How stupid of me. If you live in free Western Europe, I
28 JT8D : Truly a sick bunch of individuals. Having your country invaded must be a real bitch. Saddam and these supporters were experts at launching wars of inv
29 Bobrayner : We saved you arses in WWII. So we're a little more entitled to an opinion than are you. If WW2 is what qualifies you to have an opinion (which most sa
30 STT757 : According to Roy in another thread the US are the ones who shot at this aircraft, not Islamic Terrorists.
31 Post contains images JT8D : "According to Roy in another thread the US are the ones who shot at this aircraft, not Islamic Terrorists." Oh brother, don't tell me.....let me guess
32 N754pr : JT8D, Yes, just like they never shot down the A300, destroyed the Chinese embassy, sunk a boat full of students, cut a cablecar line......
33 Ant72LBA : If being friends with Saddam in the 1980s helped stop a rain of SS20s obliterating me then I can understand why help was offered to him. Comparing the
34 Sydscott : How did I guess that this thread would be hijacked by a debate on US policy??? Qwerty - thats the stupidest post I've read on here so far. Wake up to
35 Theiler : This really needs to be moved to the Non-Av forum. I'm so fed up with this subject.
36 Post contains images Sydscott : I totally agree, there is no need to debate US foreign policy on an aviation forum. I'd rather read how much everyone hates Southwest or which US air
37 VectorVictor : A300, destroyed the Chinese embassy, sunk a boat full of students, cut a cablecar line...... All accidents. US accepted blame. Paid compensation where
38 VS340 : Nobody should be above admitting they were wrong but peoples ideals were very different in the early 80's. I wouldn't say that, its a pretty well know
39 JT8D : Ah yes how stupid of me, I forgot how evil the Americans are, soooooo soooorrrry N754pr Firstly I don't know what your post has to do with any word I
40 EA CO AS : the Soviets did far more to stop the NAZI's on the eastern front than the USA, UK, Canada and the other allies combined did on the western If by that
41 Sydscott : Since we're completely off topic I thought I'd add this since it was just emailed to me; George Bush met The Queen, and he turns round and says: "As
42 Dan-air : Reasons for going to war with Iraq: 1. "tons and tons of bio/chem/nuclear" weapons in Iraq, can be unleashed at 45 minute notice (found not to be true
43 Post contains images Sydscott : I'd just like to know what everyone thinks about Southwests service and whether they are destroying aviation in the US by only offering cheap as tick
44 STT757 : "Bobrayner is right, the Soviets did far more to stop the NAZI's on the eastern front than the USA, UK, Canada and the other allies combined did on th
45 Sydscott : Not to mention the whole "Battle of Britain" thing done by the Royal Air Force which denied Hitler the control of the skies he needed to invade. How
46 Qwerty : Soviets? You kidding me. How many ships did the Russians contribute to the flotilla that actually pushed back the Nazis? From what direction did the R
47 Sydscott : I'm not siding with anyone here buy; 1. How many ships did the Russians contribute to the flotilla that actually pushed back the Nazis? From my recol
48 Qwerty : 4. I'm sure there are a few French buried in the states from helping with the revolutionary war??? You are right, keeping the British Fleet tied up wa
49 VS340 : Excuse me but where in any of the posts did anyone call the Soviets "Beloved" or even say that they supported them? The Soviet was an evil empire with
50 Birdwatching : Hey Guys. Read the news. It was AMERICAN TROOPS who shot down that DHL plane.
51 Sydscott : Qwerty - Indonesia keeps on eye on radical islamic movements in its own country because the government needs to contain them to keep itself in power.
52 PKK : All of this just because I asked for a video that I knew about before it hit the news in Europe and US, and hence was not available at FOX, CNN, CBS,
53 Cptkrell : Yeah, PPK; I'm still looking for a clip that shows what is purported, also. In fact, after looking at reruns of the film on various networks, I am mor
54 Motorhussy : Really nice thread. We all agree on most points. As a New Zealander, a member of a politically smaller nation, I'm looking forward to America getting
55 L-188 : Just as we are waiting for New Zealand to get an Air Force again. Amazing the lack of knowledge about soviet contributions in WWII. But also it does d
56 Indianguy : Yeah right. The so called "terrorists" actually filmed themselves shooting down the plane so American could yell "Bingo! we told u so didnt we" and th
57 Cfalk : Roy, it's a DHL aircraft. It was carrying mail. A civilian aircraft. Not even by your own considerable abilities in perverting reality can you conside
58 Bobrayner : Roy, it's a DHL aircraft. It was carrying mail. A civilian aircraft. I'm skeptical that they could fill the A300 and the AN-12 (didn't they have more
59 Alpha 1 : Amazing, Roy. Those fighting the Americans, in your warped mind, aren't legitimate targets for the American military, but a civilian mail aircraft is
60 Post contains links Sabenaboy : Click here to watch the video of the attack
61 L-188 : DHL have a fairly lucrative contract delivering military supplies, don't they? If anything, that would make the DHL aircraft a slightly more legitimat
62 Scorpio : Qwerty, You should be ashamed of yourself. We saved you arses in WWII. So we're a little more entitled to an opinion than are you. No you didn't. You'
63 Indianguy : Those fighting the Americans, in your warped mind, aren't legitimate targets for the American military, but a civilian mail aircraft is fair game for
64 Alpha 1 : the American mercenaries are shooting Iraqi people inclduing civilians ON IRAQI SOIL! Where are they attacking civilians, Roy? PROOF! LINKS! SOURCES!
65 VS340 : It is all so very very sad
66 Galaxy5 : Indianguy From India, joined Jul 2000, 2293 posts, RR: 17 Reply: 63 Posted Sat Nov 29 2003 16:01:11 UTC+1 and read 94 times: Those fighting the Americ
67 Zak : " they go along blowing up their own populace?" actually yes the french and benelux resistances also operated against people who cooperated actively w
68 L-188 : and i still dont see any valid point as why iraqi resistance is not exactly the same, They are against us? It is all the difference I need to call the
69 Airplay : That is just plain sick if you ask me... These terrorists even film their "heroic" deeds, what can you say about that? And I guess everyone forgets th
70 L-188 : Why has Bush picked the ME as his poster child for human suffering when there are so many other worthy regions in the world including his own back ya
71 Post contains images Airplay : I wasn't aware that Crawford, Texas was an epicenter of human suffering. The term "own back yard" is often used to describe not only the patch of gras
72 L-188 : but also the general region you live in or your country Yeah, but the Ozarks are where Clinton was from.
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