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Watch Your Beef: Mad Cow Has Arrived  
User currently offlineMatt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 47
Posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1711 times:

We all knew it was only a matter of time.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/12/23/mad.cow/index.html


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19196 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

"Mad cow has arrived"? Nah, VSGirl doesn't arrive into LAX until tomorrow night. And no - I'm not flirting.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13517 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1687 times:
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Osama bin Laden has trained thousands of stricken bovines to infiltrate McDonald's restaurants throughout North America.


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User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1668 times:

HAHAHAHAHA Pearson, that was hilarious!

UAL747


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19196 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1666 times:

"HAHAHAHAHA Pearson, that was hilarious!"

I know you're being sarcastic, but hey - I'll pretend you're not. :-P Besides, what do you expect when it's nearly midnight here?  Wink/being sarcastic



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1665 times:

I wasn't being sarcastic at all! I was laughing my ass off earlier.

Cheers

UAL


User currently offlineQ330 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1460 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1631 times:

So how did pe@rson get on VSGirl's respected users list? Sure you're not flirting Yeah sure

As for the mad cow disease: sounds bad, but I don't think anyone on this thread cares, Matt.

-Q



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User currently offlineLHMark From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 47
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1626 times:

Maybe now the Red Cross'll accept my goddamn blod. Grrrrrrr.


"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1623 times:

Hahaha, still pissed are we LHMark?

UAL


User currently offlineCanadaEH From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 1341 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1614 times:

What comes around goes around. It'll be nice for the US to see what it's like on the other side of the fence.


EH.
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1608 times:

If I were a Canadian farmer, I'd be happy tonight.

User currently offlineCanadaEH From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 1341 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1598 times:

The Canadian Cattle Association does not want Canada to close its borders to US beef as the US did to Canada. They instead want to do all they can to support the US and help out wherever they can. The damage is already done to Canada, we've lost over $2 billion dollars from the closure of the borders to beef, so why do further damage in "retaliation" to the US?


EH.
User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1588 times:

I expect a massive amount of "Beef - It's What's For Dinner Commercials" soon.

This is not good news for US Beef growers. Japan and South Korea have already blocked all US beef imports.


User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1566 times:

This really sucks. What was I doing when I saw the news on Fox?

Eating a freaking hamburger!!!

Anyway, Malaysia, Taiwan, Singapore, S. Korea, and Japan have all banned importation of U.S. beef until everything is contained or the final tests from the lab in Britain come back negative.

Hopefully this will force the USDA and Congress to adopt the same anti-BSE policies that the British adopted which have seriously reduced the problem in the county where it was first identified.



"There is no victory at bargain basement prices."
User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3389 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1563 times:

...but when i heard that USA might have mad cow which would put them on this side of the fence for a change, it was hard not to smile eh...


Signed,
Farmer folks of Canada

[Edited 2003-12-24 06:26:38]


What could possibly go wrong?
User currently offlineVS340 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1556 times:

i have a great deal of sympathy for the American cattle farmers right now, being from Alberta and seeing first hand how the US and Asian ban on Canadian beef has nearly destroyed the Beef industry here, I can tell you that there are some seriously rough times ahead for them. I would love to say that i will do all i can to supprt them but the truth is i wont do anything. Farmers here are still suffering a lot because of of American and Asian bans put on Canadian beef and Im going to have to see that my family is healthy before i help out my friends.

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16822 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1547 times:

You don't get sick right away from Mad Cow disease, you can develop symptoms 5 years after eating affected beef.


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User currently offlineArrow From Canada, joined Jun 2002, 2676 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1547 times:
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The US ban on Canadian cattle imports has been in place for far too long, based on a one-cow experience. It is still in effect because a number of US politicians (not the American cattle farmers) saw it as an opportunity to drive up domestic prices to benefit US cattle producers. It was blatant, opportunist protectionism of the kind that has become all too familiar lately. Japan, too, has maintained a ban on Canadian beef.

I'm glad we're not trying to get even -- that would simply harm US producers who, for the most part, played no role in the continuing US ban on Canadian beef. But the government, in particular those politicians, deserve everything they get.



Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
User currently offlineFDXmech From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3251 posts, RR: 34
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1547 times:

>>>...but when i heard that USA might have mad cow which would put them on this side of the fence for a change, it was hard not to smile eh...<<<

That's odd. I didn't see any smiling faces filled with glee at the thought of Canadian farmers having mad cow.

It's amazing at how some people in the world have nothing positive going for them except a misfortune occuring in the U.S.

Further, if the U.S were to have an outbreak of mad cow desease, I wouldn't blame other countries for not importing our beef until the problem was rectified. To do so would appear to me, selfish.



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User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4477 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1543 times:

This is really bad. In Utah and Idaho a pretty sizable amount of land is devoted to raising livestock. If Mad Cow disease ends up striking on a large scale, you can temporarily kiss that economic recovery goodbye, at least in states where raising and selling livestock is an important part of the economy.

I hate to think about what'll happen to some farmers in Idaho. IF and only IF Mad Cow cannot be contained before it spreads.

It's a good thing I'm a fan of chicken. And it's almost hypocritical of me to say that. Because if people start boycotting beef, that also hurts those same farmers.


User currently offlineVS340 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1542 times:


FDXmech

just to clarify this attitude is only of one person and not of all Canadians, American farmers are about to go through some seriously rough times and i have all the sympathy in the world for them, but i personnaly will still stick to supporting Canadian beef because they have been going through hard times now for way too long and for some really bad reasons.


User currently offlineVS340 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1538 times:

Mad Cow does not have to be containd to destroy the Cattle industry, look at Canada and how one single case has almost completely obliterated the entire industry.

User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19196 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1516 times:

"So how did pe@rson get on VSGirl's respected users list."

My subtle charm and lack of trying, you see.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1513 times:

It's extremely sad news, and I can only hope for thing: Bush has to take extremely drastic measures. All the cows in the surrounding miles have to be killed immediately (I know, it's sad), and inspections in other farms have to take place urgently.

We've had big problems with mad cows in the past in Belgium, and this seemed to be the only way to solve the problem.

Frederic


User currently offlineTokolosh From Netherlands, joined Sep 2001, 366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1513 times:

B757300,

"Hopefully this will force the USDA and Congress to adopt the same anti-BSE policies that the British adopted which have seriously reduced the problem in the county where it was first identified".

I would suggest the U.S. follows the example of Continental Europe rather than the British approach, which was disastrous. In Holland, Germany, France, etc, if one BSE cow was discovered in a herd, that entire herd was destroyed. In the UK they only destroyed the infected cow, which was much less effective as we all now know with hindsight.

Let's hope it is contained.

Merry X-mas.



Did the chicken or the egg get laid first?
25 N6376m : I'm surprised MattD didn't blame Mexicans for this.
26 Garnetpalmetto : Speaking of Mexicans, Mexico, the largest importer of our beef, just banned American beef. While I'll still eat beef, it makes me feel better about my
27 Sebolino : You don't get sick right away from Mad Cow disease, you can develop symptoms 5 years after eating affected beef In fact, it's suspected to last as lon
28 N6376m : Garnetpalmetto - I believe that the Japanese are the largest importers of US meat. Doesn't really matter because they banned the imports as well. Expo
29 777236ER : I haven't heard of any progress in the research for more than 1 year. Here in the UK we get varying reports of how many people will die from vCJD. Rig
30 Arrow : Just to clarify why Canadians have all manner of sympathy for American cattle producers -- but not much for US government agencies. This story is in t
31 Garnetpalmetto : N6376m, switching to organic is safer as the disease is primarily spread through feed, specifically the fact that the feed supplements given to animal
32 Go Canada! : well how long before someone blames bse on some world wide zionist jewish conspiracy to take over the world? if my countrys case is anything to go by,
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