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Aid To Iran Earthquake Victims  
User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 16
Posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1324 times:

As everyone will no doubt be aware an earthquake has decimated a town in Iran killing an estimated 40,000 people, or approximately 50% of the town's population!  Sad For those who wish to provide assistance I am posting a link to the Red Cross's appeal for this tragedy.

http://www.ifrc.org/what/disasters/response/iran.asp

Best regards

Ryan Bridgman


I used to think the brain is the most fascinating part of my body. But, hey, who is telling me that?
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User currently offlineBigphilnyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4076 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1310 times:

Yeah, everyone, give to the Red cross for this horrible tragedy.

Oh yeah, the Red cross will keep more than half of the money you donate to the cuase, but hey, that's capitalism for ya. Fuckin rats.



Phil Derner Jr.
User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5345 posts, RR: 53
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1286 times:

If memory serves, Khatami offered his condolences folloiwng 9/11 but as stopped short of offering aid and assistance by the Ayatollah.

FWIW, I definitely think we should offer aid, support, and assistance and do all we can if, for no other reason, but to undermine the Ayatollah's insistence that the US is "The Great Satan," to further better American-Iranian relations, and to further prove to the populace that the political moderates and liberals in Iran, like Khatami, are in the right in desiring a thaw in relations with the US.



South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineCicadajet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1273 times:

If I recall, there was a modicum of sympathy in Iran to the USA after 911, notwithstanding the some of the fundamentalists running the country.

I do recall seeing many Palestinians experiencing great joy over the deaths and suffering of Americans on 911. No doubt others as well.

Is the Red "Cross" allowed in Iran? Or is it the Red Crescent? Are these the same organization?



User currently offlineDelta767300ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2562 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1262 times:

I'm plan to send a donation. Iran has actually been pretty helpful in the war on terrorism. I have a couple friends that are from Iran and they certainly arent terrorists.

-Delta767300ER


User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5345 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1247 times:

Red Cross and Red Crescent are both subsidiaries of the International Committee of the Red Cross. Red Crescent is merely the ICRC's branch to be utilized in Muslim nations


South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1238 times:

And it should be noted that the Red Cross isn't a religious organisation - the "cross" is from the Swiss flag. The Cresent is used in areas of the world where people could assume the cross implies it's a Christian organisation, leading to problems.

User currently offlineBigphilnyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4076 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1216 times:

Here, by law, charities are only required to givve 11% of their collection to the actual cause.

ELEVEN!



Phil Derner Jr.
User currently offlineCicadajet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1204 times:

So, if many of these muslims think they see a "cross", even if it is simply a geometric shape, they think it might be Christian, and that "leads to problems"?

Therefore, instead of it becoming the Red Circle, it is made into an Islamic Symbol?


User currently offlineGarnetpalmetto From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5345 posts, RR: 53
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1191 times:

Oh lay off, cicadajet. Keep in mind what the Swiss cross itself represents - a comemoration of the Crusades, in and of itself not Christianity's brightest hour and certainly not a reminder you want when working alongside Muslims.


South Carolina - too small to be its own country, too big to be a mental asylum.
User currently offlineCicadajet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1183 times:

ok, then, fair enough. I wasn't asking if the Red Cross was a Religious organization. If it IS a Cross then I guess it needs to be a Red Crescent..

User currently offlineGoodbye From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 912 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1157 times:

I just find it surprising that JeffM wrote in the original post about the earthquake: "I'd like to see all countries send help."

Yet here he seems to be advocating the opposite.


User currently offlineQantas005 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1147 times:

give your old blankets and jumpers, it's a harsh winter in Iran and these items will be needed especially!

thats if it's in your hearts to give, i donated personally to the RedCrescent society and will go to the local RedCross and give my old clothes and woolen blankets.

do something positive for your fellow humans, it might make you feel better knowing that a life maybe saved from your donation!



User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1137 times:

I did say I would like to see ALL countries give aid. But we know they won't, and nothing will be said. The US is sending aid as I knew it would. How it arrives should not be a point of contention to the people in my opinion. Don't turn it away if it comes from the Red Cross. Be thankful.

I won't be sending any additional money. My taxes are being spent as we write.

I don't advocate sending money to the Red Cross (see Big Phil's remarks).

...things are not always as they appear alpha...you know that.

I enjoy a glass of wine or two every day with dinner, and in the summer, a cold beer every once in awhile...

Try a 'highball' or sour next TGIF outing... they are good for a change.


User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29786 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1129 times:

Iran has stated publicly that they will accept aid from every country, with the exception of Israel. This is from the BBC coverage.

Which is pathetic.

Israel has one of the most experianced search dog teams in the world, which have been sent to earthquakes in Turkey and Armenia in the past.

But the Iranian's anti-semitism is going to condemm her people, victims of this disaster to death.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16239 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1129 times:

I did say I would like to see ALL countries give aid.

I agree....this is a horrible tragedy. By the same argument, Iran should accept ALL offered aid...including any offered by Israel. To refuse it outright, is playing politics with human tragedy as Iran appears to be doing.

Considerable aid should also be forthcoming from Kuwait, the UAE & Saudi Arabia....all wealthy (Muslim) neighbours with very high PCI....they can well afford to provide significant aid. It will be interesting to see whether they do.








Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1078 times:

Yes, it´s pathetic by the Iranians, the Israelis done good job in Turkey during earthquakes there.


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1052 times:

Considerable aid should also be forthcoming from Kuwait, the UAE & Saudi Arabia....all wealthy (Muslim) neighbours with very high PCI....they can well afford to provide significant aid. It will be interesting to see whether they do.

They have done, so reports the BBC.


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