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User currently offlineZonks From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 166 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2191 times:

I did a search and only found two prior discussions on the wonderful sport of cricket, so hopefully we can get something started.

I only got into the sport during the 2003 World Cup and have been in love with it since. However, since I live in the States, my opportunities for watching cricket are rather slim. I listened to a decent amount of the World Cup, but struggle to find regular audio feeds.

Anyway, as a Hong Konger living in the States, I don't really have a proper team to support, so I randomly picked India. I've been following their tour of Australia closely (as close as one can through the internet) and am thrilled by their showing... besides the collapse in the third test. I'm just glad they've seemingly bounced back during the fourth test, but you can never count the Aussies out, of course.

Besides test cricket & ODI's, I'm not really sure how the game works. I know their are county sides in England and there seem to be provincial leagues in Australia... am I right about that? I watch a lot of football and understand how a player can progress from playing in various leagues to playing in a World Cup, but cricket seems to put more emphasis on national sides. I have no idea who else Sachin Tendulkar or VVS Laxman play for, but any football fan would know that Zinedine Zidane plays for Real Madrid and Theirry Henry plays for Arsenal.

Hope to hear from some of you out there who are also mad for cricket. I know there's a lot of A.net-ers from India, Australia and England on here, so I'm sure there's at least a couple cricket fans amongst us aviation buffs.

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User currently offlineUnited777 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1657 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2084 times:

How about Sachin Tendulkar in Australia. He is really putting on a show! 220 not out so far with five wickets down. Way to go Sachin. He really didn't have a great 2003!

Farhan Ali
Seattle, USA


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2081 times:

I have no idea who else Sachin Tendulkar or VVS Laxman play for

Sachin plays for Mumbai
Laxman plays for Hyderabad

Your best resource for biographical data on any player is http://www.cricket.org

If it ain't on that site, it ain't worth knowing!  Smile


User currently offlineTsv From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1641 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2065 times:

There was a sign in the crowd in the last Test something like :

"India + Curry = Runs"

All I can say is if that is true then they must have had some bloody good currys the last couple of dinners!

Questions are :

When are McGrath and Warne coming back?

and

Is the so called depth of Australian cricket really that deep?



"I told you I was ill ..." Spike Milligan
User currently offlineSA006 From South Africa, joined Sep 2003, 1883 posts, RR: 54
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2066 times:

Don't forget South Africa......2nd best side in the world behind Australia Big grin

We have a league here as well. Cricket is a complicated sport which takes a lot of skill.

Rgds
SA006



Proudly South African
User currently offlineTsv From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1641 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2062 times:

"Don't forget South Africa......2nd best side in the world behind Australia"

I think you'll find that South Africa was actually rated 1st at some stage last year in the Test arena.



"I told you I was ill ..." Spike Milligan
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2059 times:

Don't forget South Africa......2nd best side in the world behind Australia

Gee, wonder what happened to you guys in the World Cup! Big grin


User currently offlineSA006 From South Africa, joined Sep 2003, 1883 posts, RR: 54
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

Well put B747  Big thumbs up

South Africa put on a Shi**y performence in the world Cup......But we still kick @$$ Big grin . Look at wat were doing to the West Indies Big grin

Rgds
SA006



Proudly South African
User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2053 times:
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B747-427B: "Gee, wonder what happened to you guys in the World Cup!"

 Innocent I guess the same that happened to you guys.... We got beaten by a better team.

Oh, and our national cricket coach and captain at that time, still did not understand exactly how the Duckworth-Lewis system works......



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User currently offlineInbound From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2001, 851 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2046 times:

well I'm from the west indies....

my humble apologies to the cricket community
haha



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User currently offlineHigh_flyr69 From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2036 times:



Glenn McGrath wont be back for a while yet. His injury is almost full recovered but he is spending time with his wife who has cancer which is gettin worse from what i have heard. i was initially beast cancer and now its spreading to the bones.

Australia has the potential to have an endles string of great players. the problem is that because the senior players are going so well the selectors cannot chop and change to give experience and plan ahead when these senior players retire. Sadly it usually takes an injury of a player on the side for any new talent to make an appearance in the international arena.

BTW. We are screwed in this Sydney test. So much to the point the crowd was booing Australia. Well done India. Top notch performance so far. lets see if you can bowl.

We are going to miss Steve. too bad India are playing so well and Australia playing so shitful on his last appearance.

cheers
high_flyr69



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User currently offlineRyanb741 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2002, 3221 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2032 times:

India have been great in this series so far, although this is the 1st time Tendulkar has been red hot. India are a really wierd cricket team - they're either the worst team in the world or the best, there are hardly any 'middle of the road' performances. I hark back to of course the miraculous test win over the Aussies in India with Harbhajan and Laxman playing godlike cricket. Genius. Then the next match they can turn up and look like a village side. Wierd, but compelling. I reckon the Indians will win the series in Australia you know, but expect a test series defeat to Zimbabwe in the not to distant future! Big grin


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User currently offlineZonks From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2020 times:

B747-437B:
I do know about Cricinfo and I agree, it is a great cricket resource.

However, my point is that it seems like in cricket the players aren't linked with their other sides that much. Is league play just not that important?

As for Tendulkar, I'm hoping for at least a 300, but I'll take the series victory!


User currently offlineGoAround From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 616 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2019 times:

Hate cricket, even if my father DOES write about it as his profession!

So so dull!

GoAround



GoAround
User currently offlineEGFFbmi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2001 times:

I hate cricket... zzz.. Although my grand father and father play it..

Play Rugby or Soccer.. PROPER SPORTS!

Regards...
Chris


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1977 times:

Barfbag normally comments about the cricket, however I suspect he's walking around in a happy daze at the moment having seen the Indian batsman smashing the Aussies all over Sydney in the last few days. Big grin

As for South Africa, the fact that they appeared at the head of the World Test championship recently only brought that system into disrepute, especially since the Aussies wipe the floor with them.

Australia are the best side in the world, though how for much longer is questionable, the loss of McGrath and Warne has really been shown up in this series, and their best batsman are not exactly young. After them several teams are pretty close. India may be moving ahead of the rest, but South Africa and England are up there too, whilst Sri Lanka are nigh on unbeatable at home. The Windies are struggling, and if they lose to England in the upcoming Test series they will really have dropped down the pecking order.

Pakistan are surprisingly poor at the moment, New Zealand do well with limited resources, whilst Zimbabwe's political strife is hardly helping their cricket team, especially when their best batsman (Andy Flower) and their best young bowler (Henry Olonga) both quit on protest. Bangladesh shouldn't have been given Test status at this stage.

(I just know I've forgotten someone.  Big grin )




She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineBarfBag From India, joined Mar 2001, 2238 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1960 times:

Barfbag normally comments about the cricket, however I suspect he's walking around in a happy daze at the moment having seen the Indian batsman smashing the Aussies all over Sydney in the last few days.

I knew I could trust you to fire a jibe at me if I didn't respond on a cricket thread  Smile But then I never saw it earlier since I was holidaying in the Kerala backwaters, miles from the nearest internet connection.

Now that I'm back to civilization (or the lack of it, if the sheer madness of the drivers here in New Delhi is any indicator), I'll comment - I'm certainly overjoyed to see our performance in Australia, though I'm REALLY hoping Kumble can work his magic on the 5th day Sydney pitch. Winning the series would be enough to make my week, hell, even my month. I couldn't even care if we later got whitewashed by Bangladesh Big grin



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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1957 times:

Well, just to show you how impressed I was with your boys, I stayed up through the night (I was on holiday still) on the second and third days to watch Tendulkar and especially Laxman whack the Aussies round the park. Wonderful to watch, and I can't help but wonder why it is that Laxman just looks like any other Test batsman exept against Australia, when he turns into some kind of batting God. Whatever the truth of it, seeing Brett Lee's sneer turn into a frown as he took boundary after boundary off him made me chuckle. Interesting choice of Lord Snooty to bat again though. Perhaps he was fearful of Australia winning? This way, only India can win - I just can't see Australia getting that many runs, though if they do go for it (and I'm sure they will) it'll be a cracker of a final day.

Perhaps we're watching the start of Australia's fall from grace here? I think they'll still be strong, but for the reasons I've listed above I can't see them being quite so dominant in the years ahead. Maybe England will actually manage to get a full strength team out against them at some point? Certainly, that was the biggest frustration on our last tour there. We'd still have been beaten but the fact we didn't have any bowling did make it rather more one-sided that it needed to have been.

Oh, and you say that now, but if you do lose to Bangladesh,rest assured that I'll be reminding you about it for years!  Big grin



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineN6376m From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

On behalf of all uninformed Americans let me ask the following:

1. Can someone please post a summary of the rules? Given the world wide popularity of the sport, there's got to be something there, but I just don't understand it.

2. Last time I was in London, I watch a couple minutes of cricket and really liked the white hats worn by the national team. I've looked high and low for a website where I could buy one of those hats. Can anyone point me in the right direction.

Thanks,

-76M


User currently offlineSrilankan_340 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2002, 201 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

Just came across this thread. Just like Banco, I was up most nights watching the action down under. The bating display on both sides were really good. Finally there's someone who are capable of challenging the Aussies in their own backyard.

Tendulkar was long overdue a big innings. Shame it happened at the 4th Test and not the 3rd, where I put £20 on him to be the highest scorer. Anyway I an happy for him. I am sure Luxman will get a few offers from the english counties next few seasons.

Can't wait for tomorrow - Its definitely going to be an exciting day for sure. The Aussies will go for glory. They will try and go for the win. Not even dream of settling for the draw.
It shames me to say this, but hope England are watching the game tomorrow for a masterclass in playing positive - IMHO if their attitude in Sri Lanka is anything to go by, they would come out and block all day tomorrow, having resigned to a draw even before the innings started  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Incidentally, Lara's century yesterday made him the fastest batsman to score 9000 runs (177 innings). Sachin lost out by two innings when he passed 9000 runs on this match.

May the best team win!

Zonks,
In answer to your original query, I think players in England, Australia & South Africa are more easily associated with their local teams in domestic cricket as opposed to say players from the Indin sub-continent (although India does have a lot of club cricket like Ranjit Trophy etc.)






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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1951 times:

I still think Australia can win the match, it'll be one hell of an innings if they can do it.. I think India declared a bit prematurely, it is possible to get 500 odd runs in one days play.. As I think India have proved.

Hopefully it'll be a nail biting finish, I wouldn't want Australia to crash and burn in their final innings and Steve Waughs final test.


User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1943 times:

N6376m, here are the basic rules of cricket:  Big grin

"You have two sides, one out in the field and one in. Each man that's in goes out, and when he's out he comes in and the next man goes in until he is out. When they are all out, the side that's been out comes in and the side that's been in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out. Sometimes you get men still in and not out.

"When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and when he is out, he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in. There are two men called umpires who are all out all the time, and they decide when the men who are in are out. When both sides have been in and all the men have been out, and both sides have been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not out, that is the end of the game."



But to be slightly more serious, the basics are that you have two teams of 11 men. Two batsman are in at any one time, and whenever one of them is out then the next comes in in turn until ten wickets have been lost. Runs are scored by the batsmen running the 22 yards between each set of stumps, or, if the ball goes over the boundary a four or six (without bouncing) is scored.

Bowlers bowl sets of six balls called "overs" and one is completed then you have another from the opposite end. If you view it as being related to baseball (which it is, baseball actually started in England!) then the rest of it follows. Bowlers can bowl at speeds of up to 100 mph, and as with baseball, the ball swings (curves) around. The difference is that the ball is meant to hit the ground before reaching the batsman, which brings seam movement into play. Equally, the bowler is free to aim at the batsman, which is why they wear helmets and padding. The batsman can be out any number of ways, bowled (the ball hits the stumps or wickets), caught, lbw (leg before wicket, essentially the ball would have hit the stumps but the batsman got in the way - this is very complicated for the non-initiate), run out (self explanatory if you know baseball), stumped (similar but the wicket keeper does it when the batsman is out of his ground but not attempting a run) and various other less common occurences. The team with the most runs wins.

In Test matches, the game goes on over five days, each side batting twice, and you don't necessarily get a result. Draws are quite common, and can cover a situation where neither side is within a mile of winning, or when a side just needs a few runs or a couple of wickets. This result is usually baffling to Americans, but is part of what makes the game so special. Watching a side battle for a draw when they have been comprehensively outplayed is pretty unique in sport. There is also a limited overs version of the game, which would probably translate to the US market quite well, certainly with the US's love for statistics based sports. As a matter of interest, the number of cricket clubs in the States has rocketed over the last few years, and not just from expats from the cricket playing countries. Check out the internet to see if there's one near you.

For the laws of the game see this link:

http://www.cricinfo.com/db/SOCIETIES/ENG/ACS/CRICKET_HISTORY/LAWS/index.html

It should also point you to various merchandise. If you have any other questions just put them up here, I'm sure we'll answer them for you!

Sri_Lankan340, I would agree that England may have seemed negative in the last series, but I do think you have to understand that Murali's new ball meant that they were pretty much stuffed in the series, and were just trying to hang on. They couldn't do much else really, and had the drawn that series it would have been a real achievement. That leg spinner was just unpickable, and on those surfaces there wasn't that much else they could do.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineScotty From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 1999, 1875 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1944 times:

Get a life Banco .......

User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

Oh, and Scotland are useless at it, just like football and rugby.  Big grin


She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineScotty From UK - Scotland, joined Dec 1999, 1875 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1936 times:

Yes so we are.

And we dont gie a toss...

 Laugh out loud


25 Post contains images Banco : You don't give a toss that you're crap at rugby and football? Really?
26 Post contains images Scotty : Oh no - let me clarify Cricket - we dont gie a toss. Whits the point of whacking a ball around with a bit of wid and maybe even missing it as some tos
27 Post contains images GKirk : Cricket - Boring. I agree with Scotty's statements above Plus whats the point in having a cup of tea after a game? This "sport" sends me to sleep but
28 Post contains images BarfBag : I still think Australia can win the match, it'll be one hell of an innings if they can do it.. I think India declared a bit prematurely, it is possibl
29 Zonks : Okay, now I'm really confused. How is the 4th test in the India v. Australia test series a draw if India scored 916 runs (705-7d & 211-2d), as opposed
30 Post contains images BarfBag : Draw = last team to bat doesn't get within the other team's total but doesn't get dismissed either. Damn. I was hoping the Aussies would go berserk an
31 Post contains images Srilankan_340 : Did Ganguly declare too early? IMHO, no. It was a sporty declaration. Let me try and explain.... For a good team like Australia, this was a challengin
32 Post contains images Banco : I'm not sure I'd go as far as to say it was a sporting declaration. It was extremely unlikely, beyond what any team has ever achieved before. On that
33 BarfBag : This was quite a pathbreaking series, all in all. India showed the ability to keep coming at Australia in a manner absolutely unexpected of us. As an
34 Post contains images Pe@rson : I used to play cricket for my county - Devon. When I was last in India, a group of lads (in Delhi) were playing the game. They asked me whether I'd li
35 Post contains images Banco : Well, bearing in mind the respective populations I'd say you got off lightly! Barfbag, this series must have been pretty mucht eh first time that the
36 BarfBag : A lot of India's past performances (or the lack of it) had to do with the fact that, frankly, we sucked as travellers. We'd go to Aus or Eng and be to
37 Banco : I don't think anyone belittles Ganguly's ability as a captain. His Lord Snooty nickname came about because of his attitude to people off the field. No
38 Post contains images Scotty : Banco Fancy starting another "CIA/Martian conspiracy to start global thermonuclear war" thread to liven things up?
39 Post contains images Banco : I'll go for another "Germany are crap at football" one if you'd like? That usually gets our Teutonic friends going. Or how about a "CIA/Martian conspi
40 Scotty : Cut it to "Why cant Americans be just like the rest of us" That'll work. Type, post, light blue paper and stand WELL BACK!!!!!
41 Post contains images Banco : Hmm, they might have a teensy bit of evidence against us for breaching the "no flamebait" rule though...
42 Scotty : Stick to cricket I think.
43 Post contains images SA006 : Anyone see that New Zealand batsmen get a cramp while plying a sweep . ROFL They're were playing India at the time. I forget who the batsmn was though
44 Post contains images BarfBag : Banco: I understand the Lord Snooty tag was initially meant in response to Ganguly's aloofness. But there's a limit to it, and IMO, it was far exceede
45 Post contains images Banco : LOL. Funny moment in the South Africa - West Indies Test yesterday. The camera panned round the ground in the usual slightly perverted attempt to pick
46 B747-437B : Hate cricket, even if my father DOES write about it as his profession! Your dad is John Etheridge of The Sun????
47 Post contains links Tsv : On to the One-dayers and India have just shown they can choke as well as any other team : http://news.ninemsn.com.au/Sport/story_43643.asp They really
48 Post contains images Banco : Now, that's just not true Tsv. Have you ever seen anyone choke like the South Africans?
49 Tsv : Hey Banco hello and Happy New Year! (Hope not so a happy new year for your Rugby Team! I'm still waiting for that DVD with the alternative ending to b
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