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User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Posted (10 years 8 months 1 day ago) and read 3089 times:

I have travelled extensively in Asia (one year in India) and I recall there being many 'hole-in-the-ground' toilets (i.e. squat toilets), especially in the poorer areas. But while these are popular in less-developed countries, I was quite shocked to see them at the ultra-modern SIN, where they were present in one of the (excellent) spectator areas (I realise Singapore itself is still a less-developed country). Is there any particular reason for this?

[Edited 2004-01-05 00:12:32]


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User currently offlineTokolosh From Netherlands, joined Sep 2001, 366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day ago) and read 3032 times:

I have also travelled extensively in Asia and have had to deal with squat toilets as a Westerner. I imagine Singapore Changi is catering for transit passengers who use squat toilets. Just a thought: shouldn't airlines flying in the region, or to and from the region, have a few squat toilets in their aircraft?


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User currently offlineLyzzard From Singapore, joined Nov 2003, 404 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day ago) and read 2980 times:

Pearson:

These toilets are part of Asian culture and you would find them in other asian countries considered to be modern. They are commonly found in Japan, Thailand, Korea etc...

As for your comment "I realise Singapore itself is still a less-developed country", well, all I can say is that with that sort of attitude, you have my sympathies. Kinda hard to believe you travel a lot in Asia and still hold an old world view like that. In addition to squat toilets, we also have running water and 24 hr electrical supply to our homes. We even have schools. Most of us can even speak English (I speak the goodest English).


User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day ago) and read 2935 times:

LOL. You totally misinterpreted what I said. It's a fact that Singapore is a less-developed country, as are all countries in the area. Have no doubt about that. But there is surely a hierarchy as to the level of development, for Singapore is certainly far more developed than other countries in the area.

"Kinda hard to believe you travel a lot in Asia and still hold an old world view like that."

It was an informed perception.

"In addition to squat toilets, we also have running water and 24 hr electrical supply to our homes. We even have schools."

You don't say!

I have never seen squat toilets at Colombo airport or Delhi airport, two countries in which such toilets are frequently seen. So one would presume, from this, that they would not be present at SIN.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day ago) and read 2935 times:

Yes, and if you are in doubt of your English, you can always train yourself with the Government's "Speak Good English" movement!

Online lessons can be found at http://www.goodenglish.org.sg/SGEM/home.php

Nevertheless, why is this aviation related?



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User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 1 day ago) and read 2924 times:

"Nevertheless, why is this aviation related?"

Because toilets form a part of airports, which form a part of civil aviation. :-P



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3389 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2848 times:

Its part of local culture. They come here and eat our food and use our western toilets, we go there and try their food and use their squat toilets; thats how the world works. "Different country, different people, different ways of doing things."


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User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2826 times:

Its part of local culture."

Yes, of course. But you missed my point: squat toilets are common in the poorer areas of countries and the poorer areas of cities, not in the richer areas. Accordingly, you would not see them in flash restaurants or expensive hotels. Yet they are present in airports, which are almost certainly going to be frequented by the richer people in society, simply because they can afford to fly. Get my point now? Just an observation.



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User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2818 times:

"Singapore is certainly far more developed than other countries in the area."

Is the most developed in the area.

Did you find squat toilets at SIN Airport?

I hate squat toilets. How disgusting. Much more risk of splashback. Eww. I had to use some in Vietnam. Disgusting. We were on the road between UIH and Hue in Central Vietnam. I couldn't excrete faecaes because I was so disusted so I had to hold it in until we got to our hotel in the evening at Hue. I went on a ritual fast on the journey.



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User currently offlineDanialanwar From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 421 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2805 times:

Squat toilets are not a sign of backwardness, just because you use something else in the UK. Many people in Asia use them, thus it's a great sign of being advanced by offering both types toilets tailored to customer demands. Sounds like LHR is less-developped, doesnt it ... Many people in Asia also use water to wash their private parts after going to the toilet - but i guess in more-developped countries not everybody sees the need to even wash their hands ...


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User currently offlineLyzzard From Singapore, joined Nov 2003, 404 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2801 times:

Why are squat toilets indicative of a less developed country? They have been part of Asian culture since toilets have been around, so why change something which isn't broken?

I find things in other countries, which are considered part of the developed world, that seem backward to me. Examples include...

Tiny, cramped subway trains that break down half the time in London.
Power outages which can affect an entire state in the US.
Dog shit every 10 paces you take in Paris. Pets are even allowed in malls and other public buildings.

The list goes on.

How can you even begin to say that you hold an informed perception? Most assesment agencies like the WTEC classifies Singapore as a Newly Developed Country. I'd agree that is more accurate as a lot has been done in the last 20 years or so to improve infrastructure and trade facilities.

If you continue to hold the view that having or not having squat toilets is indicative of the level of development in a country, you really need to have your Anglo centric head flushed (in a squat toilet preferably). Sheesshhh...


User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

LOL.

Singapore_Air: you dedication to your country is commendable.

Where did I once say I am personally bothered with squat toilets? I couldn't careless. I was surprised to see them in ultra-modern SIN, yes, but I didn't care about them. Indeed, I've stayed in plenty of places in India costing £1-£1.50 per night, which included a squat toilet - and a bucket of hot water - if I was lucky (normally cold water). Bothered by squat toilets? Nope.



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User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2754 times:

"If you continue to hold the view that having or not having squat toilets is indicative of the level of development in a country."

Which countries in the developed world have them in regular use?

As I said, I PERSONALLY AM NOT BOTHERED BY THEM BECAUSE I HAVE USED THEM INNUMERABLE TIMES. OK?



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineBistro1200 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 337 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2719 times:

A Thai friend of mine said that squat toilets developed from the lack of toilet paper in SE Asia, and this is confirmed by the cloth towels in Thai Airways' lavs. I never had the "pleasure" of using a squat toilet in Thailand, but apparently the local shortage of paper products is what made them useful.


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User currently offlineAnsettAW From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 205 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2714 times:

Hang in there, Pe@rson. You should know by now that you must dissect every word before you post it and imagine all the ways it can be interpreted by every member on this forum. Any reasonable person would know that you were curious, not remotely ethnocentric.


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User currently offlineLyzzard From Singapore, joined Nov 2003, 404 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2711 times:

Pearson,

Sigh... I give up. Just because Singaporeans take a crap in squat toilets, you reduce them to cave dwellers from the Stone Age.

Which developed countries have squat toilets? If you consider Japan a developed country ( I hope you at least agree on that)... try this link...

http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~AD8Y-HYS/movie.htm


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2710 times:

Which countries in the developed world have them in regular use?

Singapore?


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2709 times:

"I PERSONALLY AM NOT BOTHERED BY THEM BECAUSE I HAVE USED THEM INNUMERABLE TIMES. OK?"

Oh dear. I feel for anyone who's had to use such a thing. Again, disgusting.

The things don't flush themselves. You have to have a container full of water and pour it down the hole. God forbid if you slightly miss the hole and some of it flows onto the ceramic part you're standing on.

I'm sorry, but how backward. I'm tending to agree with Pe@rson. Go "normal" toilets I say. I'm sure Lee Hsien Loong (and the World Toilet Organisation) will agree with me.



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User currently offlineSpark From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2706 times:

I can understand the resistance to squat toilets, they are a bit daunting to people unfamiliar. Try being a newly potty trained kid in 1974, and the only thing available is a squat toilet.

However the notion that Singapore is less developed in any means is absurd. Singapore is one of the most technically advanced cities in the world. I moved from Singapore to California in 1988, and development wise Singapore was at least the equal of San Francisco and Los Angeles 15 years ago (except we have better television in America). In fact Singapore was the pioneer in a cashless society (using ATM's).

I was surprised to hear that there were squat toilets at Changi, but judging from what I remember about Singapore, and Changi, I'm sure they were clean and much more hygenic than some other bathrooms I've been to at the states.


User currently offlineDanialanwar From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 421 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2702 times:

Which countries in the developed world have them in regular use?
Singapore, Japan, South Korea, ...

Nobody takes issue with your views of toilets, but people do take issue that you think because the toilet looks different therefore that country is backward



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User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2690 times:

LOL... Lyzzzzzzard... "Just because Singaporeans take a crap in squat toilets, you reduce them to cave dwellers from the Stone Age." Where did I say that? I didn't. You interpreted what I said to mean that, but it was not.

I was just curious why Singapore airport, that ultra-modern establishment, would have squat toilets which are not normally a feature in the richer areas of cities, and the hotels and restaurants contained therein. That's all.

Can we relax now?



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineLyzzard From Singapore, joined Nov 2003, 404 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2666 times:

Pearson,

Another link to dispel your myth of the absence of squat toilets in India...

http://www.cariboo.bc.ca/news/past03Nov3/Digests03Nov3/Alana%20digest%202/Bring%20your%20Immodium2.htm


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2659 times:

Did you use Terminal One or Two?

I'd be interested to try out one of these. How did you flush it?



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User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2656 times:

"Another link to dispel your myth of the absence of squat toilets in India..."

Did you actually read what I said? "I have never seen squat toilets at Colombo airport or Delhi airport, two countries (Sri Lanka and India) in which such toilets are frequently seen."



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 24, posted (10 years 8 months 23 hours ago) and read 2648 times:

"Did you use Terminal One or Two?"

The non-SQ terminal. Superb it was too. Can't wait until I'm back there.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
25 Lyzzard : And to further dispel the notion that squat toilets are only found in "poorer" areas, I'd be back later with photos of the squat toilets from several
26 Danialanwar : Breaking News: squat toilets at Changi flush at the press of a button (or have they gone to auto-flush like the sit-ons as well already?) No need to u
27 Post contains images Pe@rson : lol. ha ha. As I said, I personally don't care about them, because I've used them plenty of times before. Shall we cool it and discuss something more
28 Post contains images AnsettAW : They're not relaxing. Looks like the hot discussion topic this hour is squat toilets.
29 Singapore_Air : Nice to know that Singapore has kept it's hygienic raison d'être with the push-to-flush! Hoorah! Some grace has been saved. I do understand that cert
30 Post contains links Singapore_Air : This link is hilarious! They just take a little getting used too. The most important thing is not to fall in. This seems self evident, but when the fl
31 MD11Engineer : I´ve seen and used squat toilets in restaurants in France, Italy and Spain as well as in the Philippines. About the installation of said toilets on a
32 Post contains links Lyzzard : Looks like ours is not the only thread on the net discussing the squat toilet. Here's a forum offering stiff british expats in Asia advice on how to d
33 Pe@rson : If I was a stiff Brit, as you are suggesting, why would I, when I'm backpacking, stay in some of the cheapest - and thus worst - accommodations, where
34 Lyzzard : And where exactly in my post does it refer to you as a stiff brit? I was referring to some of the people who were in the post from the link I posted w
35 FoxBravo : I would like to point out that some people--even in modern, developed countries--prefer squat toilets over sitting ones, especially in public restroom
36 Pe@rson : "And where exactly in my post does it refer to you as a stiff brit?" Your "Anglo centric head" comment implied it. Anyway, as eyeopening as this discu
37 Mog : Yes, squat toilets are available at Indian airports, too. For that matter, the better hotels have rooms put aside for guests who ask for them, with at
38 Post contains links and images Ammunition : and heres a long discussion into squat toilets and how to use them... http://thorntree.lonelyplanet.com/messagepost.cfm?postaction=reply&catid=16&thre
39 Espion007 : I grew up in russia,and live the USA,so Im used to western-style toilets.im not here to argue anything or discuss how modernized singapore is,all I wa
40 MD88Captain : Man. Some of you guys don't know squat. (insert smily face here)
41 MD11Engineer : Espion, Ever gone camping the rough way? Been out in the forest behind a bush with a shovel and using a self-dug hole? This isd exactly the same way y
42 Aviasian : Pe@rson: Singapore's society include the folks whose roots originated in China, India, the Malay Peninsula . . . folks in their sunset years for whom
43 Airjampanam : This is a crap topic Pe@rson!!! Who knew this could be the burning topic of the day! LOL
44 Post contains images Gamps : Actually I also am surprised at times seeing this in SIN - which I mentioned in my trip reports some time back . Singapore_Air: It is in SQ terminal t
45 Kilavoud : Pe@rson "Squat toilets" are more practical for someone having the intention to clean his or her backside with water (paper can be used afterwards for
46 Chgoflyer : Dont you find when you pee in a squat toilet .. that you tend to hit you shoes?
47 Post contains images COSPN : NRT Japan has both western and Squatters... To each is own ..I've used western Jons at SIN before..just look around..DO any Aircrafts have Squatters ?
48 Post contains images SQ772 : Interesting thread in an aviation related forum. Squat toilets are actually more hygienic as the body does not come into contact with parts of the toi
49 Airmale : Pe@rson you better not travel to Iran ever, squats are all they have every where you go.
50 Pe@rson : "For the love of Jesus, Mary and Joseph! I said it ONCE and I'll REPEAT IT FOR THOSE WHO DID NOT READ IT. I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WHATSOEVER WITH USIN
51 MAS A330 : I had to use one in BKK. And my god, never again! No water to to wash yourself up.
52 Mog : There are now auto-wash squat toilets, which send mildly scented lukewarm water aimed in a gently massaging way at your backside. Some sort of optical
53 Post contains images Ryanb741 : There are gold plated squat toilets at DXB also. It's an Asian thing - Asians find using toilet paper unhygenic (basically you're just spreading your
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