ProSimTec From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2364 times:
Well, I'm guilty of owning 2 of the worst cars ever. I had an '84 Fiero and a '74 Vega. I had a friend who had an AMC Pacer. He called it the Atomic Fishbowl.
Anyone else willing to fess up to owning one of these beauties?
AMC Pacer (1975-80)
Chevrolet Vega (1970-74)
Citroen SM (1970-72)
Fiat Strada (1978-88)
Ford Bronco II (1983-89)
Ford Edsel (1957-59)
Ford Pinto (1971-80)
Honda Accord hatchback (1978)
Mazda RX-2 (1971)
Oldsmobile Delta 88 (1979-84)
Pontiac Fiero (1984)
Renault Dauphine (1956-68)
Sachsenring Trabant (1957-62)
Yugo GV (1981-91)
One that should be add though, is the little 3 wheeled car that Mr. Bean keeps causing to tip over. What is that?
Bruno From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 853 posts, RR: 3 Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2281 times:
What are we basing this on?
Looks, sales, performance, reliability?
There are many Pintos on the road today and the Pacer is a well made car.
Interesting to see that the most recalled car in history isn't on this list (1980-85 GM X-body; Citation, Omega, Skylark).
ElectraBob From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 931 posts, RR: 4 Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2277 times:
The Ford Maverick (1969-77) would be way up on my list. Had to be one of the ugliest cars ever manufactured...some of the most awful two-tone paint combinations you have ever seen. And every one, no matter how well someone took care of it, was guaranteed to rust big time. Sales of this car went way beyond Ford's expectations. I believe that Mercury also had a version of this thing....I think it was called the Comet.
Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool.....
Bruno From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 853 posts, RR: 3 Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2269 times:
ElectraBob:
My aunt and Grandma use to share a Ford Maverick. It had the green & yellow plaid interior I am sure Superfly would have loved.
Rust was a problem with these cars but they ran forever.
Theres had a 302 V8 that had plenty of get up an go. Parts are very cheap and a pleanty.
I think the car was ugly for it's time but there are a good 12-14 new cars today that's outdone the Maverick in terms of ugliness.
Most are found in the car-based SUVs.
ElectraBob From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 931 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2248 times:
Bruno --
My first girlfriend had a 1970 Ford Maverick and she was (unfortunately) very pleased with it....she owned it for 5 years and never had a problem with it.
I do know that they ran forever...had a neighbor that was still driving his until the mid-'80s.
Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool.....
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 38502 posts, RR: 80 Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2216 times:
Hmmm, this list doesn't have an ounce of credibility. It sounds as though he is going by personal taste instead of figures and reports to back up his claims.
I am with Bruno 100%!
First:
Ford Edsel (1957-59) ?
This was an amazing car! It certainly had a beautiful front end grille.
The reason this car sold poorly was because it came out during a economic recession and Ford already had Mercury & Lincoln in this class.
Ford Pinto (1971-80)?
OK, the car exploding on impact was not good but once corrected, this was a very durable and reliable car. Many are still on the road today.
Ford Bronco II (1983-89)?
This was a solid compact SUV that's way more durable than these car based SUV trash cans.
Oldsmobile Delta 88 (1979-84)?
Oh really? To even further prove this guy is full of $h!t, what changed on the Oldsmobile Delta 88 in 1979? Absolutley NOTHING!
The Oldsmobile Delta 88 design he is thinking of started in 1977! So whare is he coming up with 1979? That car was based off the very trusted B-body frame that lasted all the way up to the 1996 model year.
Pontiac Fiero (1984)?
Again, what's with the dates? Whay change on the Pontiac Fiero in 1985 that made the car better? This small sport two seater was powered by the 2.5 Iron Duke 4 -cylinder engine that was one of the most torquey 4 bangers around.
Honda Accord hatchback (1978)?
What?
This car was extremly popular and reliable and this was the very car that catapulted Japanese car in to the American car market. Japan has been a serious player every since.
As Bruno pointed out, why isn't the 1980-1985 Omega/Skylark/Citation and Phoenix listed? Those were the most recalled car in history.
I still think Lee Iaccoca had some payola with the K-car. My LeBaron turbo caught on fire 3 times! At the junk yard, you will see plenty of 1980s K-cars in mint condition that can't run because of engine fire.
SlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 71 Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2206 times:
Of the cars on that first list:
Olds 88: Got caught up in a multi-car rear-ender on the freeway in San Diego in mine. I totaled the car in front of me and the car behind me totaled himself on my back bumper. I drove away from the crash and drove the car until the onset of winter required headlights which it no longer had. At that point I did not feel like straigtening out the headlights so I scrapped the car. That was one solid piece of Detroit iron.
Mazda RX-2: Only car I ever owned two of. Good little car, after they got the engine seal problem fixed. Later I put a Mazda 13B rotary engine in my Datsun 1600 roadster.
BTW the only car I ever owned three of was the Corvair, which is another likely candidate for unappreciated car lists. If I ever own another I'm putting a Nader-for-President bumper sticker on it.
Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
LHMark From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 7255 posts, RR: 51 Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2189 times:
remind me never to look directly into Suberfly's garage.
Where's my diesel Rabbit?
"Sympathy is something that shouldn't be bestowed on the Yankees. Apparently it angers them." - Bob Feller
Alessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2184 times:
First Citroen SM is a good car, problem was the A/C installed caused engine problems,
also US emission laws gave them trouble with fires.
Lada Niva is good for it´s low price, it´s made for hard, long winters, good heating and reliable in winter (have friends who use them during winter).
People seem to replace "worst" with "ugliest", this was about the worst car.
I say the hydragas system with the Austin Princess wasn´t too good...
Dodgecharger From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 210 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2182 times:
I don't know why the Olds Delta 88 made the list.
The 77-84 Delta 88 had typical styling of the time with the boxy 4-dr passenger sedan look (Chevy Caprice, Buick LeSabre, Ford LTD, Mercury Grand Marquis, etc...). All those cars looked pretty much the same. So as for looks I don't see what the reason is because you can pretty much include every 4 door big American sedan.
Reliability wise these cars were very reliable. Starting in the late 70s or early 80s(not sure exactly what yr...I want to say 81) they came with a 307 4 barrel V-8 that has proven to be an extremely reliable engine. My dad got over 150,000 miles out of his 83 Olds station wagon and my 87 Cutlass Supreme is about to turn 140,000 miles on that same 307 V-8 that virtually every full size Olds got in the early 80s.
I'm curious to know the reasoning behind the Delta 88 making the list. By the way if you notice, Oldsmobile sold a good number of these cars and for the youngest being 20yrs old there are still quite a few out there.
Greg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2116 times:
From a liability standpoint..the Pinto and Fiero win....they caught fire (apparently prior to bursting into flames, the Fiero dropped the tranny first---quite unique). There is question whether FoMoCo knew of the bad tank placement prior to construction (shame..shame..shame)
They will all be outdone by the Ford/Firestone claims.
I think the Yugo would be up there for no other reason than being a 'car without a country'.....
SlamClick From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 10062 posts, RR: 71 Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2110 times:
Anyone remember a famous American muscle car having a diabolical defect?
The motor mount would break under heavy acceleration causing the 396 (there's a hint) to rotate over aginst the fenderwell, jamming the throttle wide open and tearing the brake master cylinder off the firewall disabling the brakes.
Still a highly collectible car.
Happiness is not seeing another trite Ste. Maarten photo all week long.
25 4holer: Le Car anyone? My friend called his the Le Sh!t.
26 JetService: I heard the Fiero was initially designed to be a muscle car and they intended on putting a Corvette engine in it. The problem was that the chassis cou
27 Superfly: JetService: Cadillac has outdone the Cimarron with something even worse. The Catera, SRX, Escalade and Escalade EXT. I'll take the the Cimarron over t
28 JetService: Superfly, what did you think of the Cadillac Allente (something like that). I didn't care for that one too much either.
29 Superfly: JetService: Ahh the Allente! Did you know the body of the Allente was made in Italy and flown to the United States on a Boeing 747 for final assembly.
30 Positive rate: Here in Australia my vote for worst car would have to go to the Holden Commodorre aaarrrgghhh a terrible car! The older ones especially- 80's and earl
31 Sushka: I wouldn't mind having a Lada, especially a Kopeeka. They are very comfortable and easy to maintain. Volgas are bad though, they fall apart right away
32 Srbmod: A kid in my neighborhood back when I was in High School had a Yugo as his first car. He paid like $1000 for it at some auto auction. You could get thr
33 SN-A330: I wouldn't mind having a Lada, especially a Kopeeka. They are very comfortable and easy to maintain. @ Sushka : you must be joking. Did you ever drive
34 Marcus: Does anyone remember the Nissan Axxes (sp?) sold in the US in the early 90's?........that thing was recalled and then I think bought back by Nissan be
35 Sushka: @ Sushka : you must be joking. Did you ever drive in one ? Yes every day for more than 7 years. They are good cars.
36 CoRocks: Can't forget the Ford Mustang II. I think they were out in the mid-70's. Can't remember. But for some reason, must kit, replica cars such as AC Cobra'