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How I Spun My Car On The Snow...  
User currently offline707cMf From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 29
Posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2697 times:

Okay, this happened yesterday while driving to work. As you might know (and don't care), I live up a mountain (the Dent du Chat) overseeing the CMF area (very good for spotting, great view, peaceful surroundings....)

However, in winter, it often snows, and one has to drive carefully, especially when coming down (up is usually no problem).

Yesterday, while entering my car, I knew that I had snow tires on the front, so there shouldn't be any problem for me.
What I did not knew (and did not check), was that my rear tires were quite worn, and that alone cancels all the positive effect of winter tires.

So here I am, driving slowly, carefully, not using the brake, and then it happens... the road curves (a little), so I slowly turn the steering wheel... and the rear wheels block themselves...
My car start to spin slowly, and I tells to myself "there should be no problem, I was aimed in the good direction, the car should followw its inertia and stay on the road and stop very quickly."
Of course, that didn't happen. The road was not level, so the car immediately aimed for the left side, where the precipice was. Okay, nt that much of a precipice (only 5 or 6 meter high, but very steep, and with a lot of trees - I knew if I went pass the cliff, I would at least hit a tree, and kiss my car goodbye...)

Fortunately, I seemed to be in luck, my car stopped on the edge of the cliff, right between two trees without hitting those...





As you can see on the pictures, I was indeed in luck. However, the front right wheel not touching the ground, I decided not to try and drive it away myself, so I called a breackdown truck who hauled me back on the orad. (just had to wait one hour in the cold for it to arrive...)



Note the elegant track my car followed while doing its 345 degrees spin  Wink/being sarcastic




While waiting for the truck, a snowplough drove by (I wish he had cleaned up that road an hour earlier !!!). I signalled the driver that my car was there, so that he does not throw snow on it (I was a bit concerned of the equilibrium of my ride at that moment). Well, as you can see on this photo, its track show that even this snowplough skidded on that part of the road.

Fortunately, now my car is back out of the ditch, nothing as been hit on it, and I have a set of pictures to show (unfortunately, they cannot make it to A.net database...)

707, lucky and safe

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User currently offlineSN-A330 From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 1129 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2691 times:

707CMF, don't drink and drive. Now you see you should stay away from Champagne, Cognac,...  Nuts  Nuts

Cheers, SN-A330



I would rather be flying...
User currently offlineUTA_flyingHIGH From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2683 times:

707cmf discovers the joys of having snow tires upfront and slick tires on the back (a spin just waiting to happen).
For the record, I managed to spin the same car at 50 km/h on the wet Big grin

UTA



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User currently offlineBen From Switzerland, joined Aug 1999, 1391 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2674 times:

Nice number plate...  Wink/being sarcastic

User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2665 times:

Good to see that you didnt hit the tree, as you may then have had a small brawl with your insurance company.

May I suggest that you fit slicks on the front axle aswell. Then next time that happens, you can just sit back and relax when loosing control as you will know that there is nothing you can do to avoid the ditch.  Nuts


User currently offlineKROC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

Thanks for sharing that.

Signed, Absolutely Nobody


User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4490 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2642 times:

Another intelligent posting by Queen Plugger of Elbonia. Brilliant!


I got my head checked--by a jumbo jet
User currently offlineDaV From Italy, joined Jun 2001, 669 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2639 times:

Can you actually have a custom plate in Franc...er, Elbonia?!?! You'll learn something new everyday!

DaV



Two monologues do not make a dialogue
User currently onlineGordonsmall From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2001, 2108 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2636 times:

707CMF - Nice one!

I've never done any damage by skidding in the snow, but like you I live in the middle of nowhere and I've had my fair share of roller-coaster rides while driving in the snow.

On the other hand, I did manage to write-off my first car when I was 17 on a wet, greasy roundabout when I was being a complete tosser and trying to show everyone my "superior" driving skills. Luckily my current car has four wheel drive with an electronically controlled front/rear split differential - so no wheelspins or slides for me now.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

If there's a racetrack with a driving school in Elbonia, they should probably have a skidpan, book yourself a session on it with an instructor - driving on ice or snow is a no-brainer after that.

Regards,
Gordon.



Statistically, people who have had the most birthdays tend to live the longest.
User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4490 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2630 times:

On the other hand, I did manage to write-off my first car when I was 17 on a wet, greasy roundabout when I was being a complete tosser and trying to show everyone my "superior" driving skills. Luckily my current car has four wheel drive with an electronically controlled front/rear split differential - so no wheelspins or slides for me now.

Go out and drive on a sheet of ice like that and see just how well it works!!  Big thumbs up



I got my head checked--by a jumbo jet
User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2627 times:

Are you from Elbonia Michigan?  Big grin

User currently onlineGordonsmall From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2001, 2108 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2622 times:

Go out and drive on a sheet of ice like that and see just how well it works!!

It would still work! I must admit that I was skeptical about it at first myself but having tested it on everything from a road covered in an inch of ice to a 3 inch deep river running down the street I can confirm that it will not let the car get out of control - the car just will not allow any of the wheels to spin, if it can't get traction on any wheel it just won't move, it sits there revving it's nuts off with no power getting to the wheels (you can still turn it off when you want a bit of fun on a track)!

In the case of a slide/spin the car feeds power to the wheels independently to stop the slip - it's not fool proof, so if you go barreling into a pool of standing water in a powerslide you're goosed - but in terms of normal driving on icy or snow covered roads it's a god-send, it's never let me down yet - best £500 I ever spent!

Regards,
Gordon.



Statistically, people who have had the most birthdays tend to live the longest.
User currently offlineUTa_FLYinghigh From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2612 times:

The King Plugger of Elbonia being myself Big grin

Gordonsmall - your ride is an Evo ?!? wish I could afford that.
But then again, I work at Get Away  Sad

UTA

[Edited 2004-01-29 13:51:48]


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User currently onlineGordonsmall From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2001, 2108 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2587 times:

Gordonsmall - your ride is an Evo ?!?

Ha! - I wish! No, not an Evo unfortunately (  Crying ), my annual salary doesn't quite stretch to that (doesn't come anywhere close actually, despite what some people think, and I've still got student loans to pay off!) - it's a Vauxhall Cavalier - the 4 Wheel drive Turbo model with a modified ECU that gives full authority traction control along with the addition of some clever sensors.

The Cav 4X4 turbo already has a form of ECU traction control as standard, but it only works for traction - with the additional sensors added it will sense when you're in a slide and vary the power output to the wheels independently, clever kit and a snip at £500 fully fitted! I believe the kit can be added to any car that has 4 wheel drive and ECU controlled limited slip differentials.

Regards,
Gordon.

[Edited 2004-01-29 15:10:51]


Statistically, people who have had the most birthdays tend to live the longest.
User currently offlineStartvalve From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2543 times:

I think we should petition Johan to let 707cmf change his handle to Francios Delacour.

*waits to see if anyone gets it*

The key is to keep the car on the Dark stuff and not in the trees. Simply put I bet that was fun and sincerly hope you did not have to urinate at the time.


User currently offline707cMf From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 29
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2533 times:

I think we should petition Johan to let 707cmf change his handle to Francios Delacour.
Nah, I drive a Vauxhall/Opel, not a Mitsubishi

Keeping the car on the dark stuff is indeed a good idea... when there is dark stuff !!!


User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2523 times:

I am unimpressed.

Signed,
Singapore_Air



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User currently offlineAOMlover From France, joined Jul 2001, 1305 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2503 times:

OMG !!!
It's pretty snowy at la Quenotte du Minou !!!
I feel sorry for your car :'(


User currently offlineN312RC From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 2682 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2488 times:

Youre lucky you didnt smash into one of those trees or go down in that ravine!


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User currently offlineStartvalve From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2461 times:

If you wanna get that technical CMF I am not 100% up to date on WRC news since its damn near impossible to get in the states but I think the only way Delacour is going to be participating in a rally this year or last would be walking.

User currently offline707cMf From France, joined Mar 2002, 4885 posts, RR: 29
Reply 20, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2457 times:

It's pretty snowy at la Quenotte du Minou !!!

La Quenotte du Minou !!!! ROTFLMAO !!!!  Laugh out loudD I Shall (les eaux) repeat it a lot tomorrow !!

But my car is safe, fortunately

Youre lucky you didnt smash into one of those trees or go down in that ravine!

My point exactly. Well, the ravine is not very deep (only 5 or 6 meters), but it would have been enough for me to buy a new car. Which I absolutely do not want.

707


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2454 times:

Antoine,

I am glad that nothing happened to you and to your car!

By the way, nice license plate  Big thumbs up

Patrick


User currently offlineAerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4682 posts, RR: 46
Reply 22, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2451 times:

Actually,

I think Peter Solberg and 707cmf enjoy the ice just as equally, especially after Solbergs' Monte Carlo run last weekend!

Ex-FF SSCA driver here, current drag racer and rabid F1 and WRC fan....



"Sing a song, play guitar, make it snappy..."
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29799 posts, RR: 58
Reply 23, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2421 times:

Do yourself a favor, Jack up the front end and visually check to see if you bent any of the steering gear.

I went of the road one time in my old truck and it bent the tie rod where it connects to the wheel.

Didn't notice it at first, until I noticed that tire wearing excessively.

If nothing looks bent, then it should be fine but pay particular attention to the linkages on the driver side, since that is the side that was being forced into the snow.



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User currently offlineDash8King From Canada, joined Nov 2001, 2743 posts, RR: 10
Reply 24, posted (10 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2410 times:

Wow do you have any more of these very, very interesting stories???

If you do keep them to yourself, spare us!


25 707cMf : Do yourself a favor, Jack up the front end and visually check to see if you bent any of the steering gear. I went of the road one time in my old truck
26 Post contains images UTA_flyingHIGH : As an ex-Group N/Saxo Cup racer and having driven 707cmf's trash ca..er, car, I must say that the rear tires were evn slicker than F1 tires now that t
27 L-188 : I wouldn't pay any money for it, unless you are taking it in to have something else done to it already, you know, one of those "since it is on the rac
28 Post contains images JBirdAV8r : The King Plugger of Elbonia being myself You betcha!!!! Hey 707cmf, not to worry...it happens to the best of us. I had to rescue some poor woman and h
29 Post contains images Chi-town : Reminding me.....yesterday, me and my friends went out in my friends mom's dodge caravan sport minivan. We have about 3 or 4 inches of snow on the gro
30 Unattendedbag : Looking at the tracks in the road, it doesn't look like anyone else had trouble navigating that treacherous stretch of road? Taking a quote from North
31 Post contains images Sebolino : I knew that I had snow tires on the front Arf. It's said everywhere to change the 4 tyres when you switch for winter tyres.
32 707CmF : Looking at the tracks in the road, it doesn't look like anyone else had trouble navigating that treacherous stretch of road? You know, everything need
33 Post contains images Unattendedbag : You might read better, you would have discovered the official reason was the slickness of the rear tires... I thought the rear wheels "blocked themsel
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