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What Defines An Alchoholic?  
User currently offlineSWA TPA From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1560 posts, RR: 34
Posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1140 times:

Ok, serious question time here.

What makes a person an alchoholic? Is it how much they drink? How they act? Can they stop at will? The reason for drinking?
I have been doing alot of drinking the past few months almost nightly and have no desire to stop. I dont have a reason to be drinking, I just feel like it.
Lately I have began to wonder about this. Is this alchoholism?


SWA TPA



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13766 posts, RR: 61
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1131 times:
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What makes a person an alchoholic?

Attending meetings. Otherwise they're just drunks.  Big grin

(sorry...couldn't resist)



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User currently online727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6637 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1127 times:

Has it interfered with your work or parenting? If not, I'd say no, you're not an alcoholic. At 10:00am, are you sloshed? If not, then again, I'd vote no problem.


 Smile/happy/getting dizzy



I feel woozy....what did you put in that Pudding Pop?
User currently offlineSWA TPA From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1560 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1116 times:

Nope, no work or parenting problems. Dont like drinking in the morning. Typically after sunset (no clue why).

Matter of fact, tonights martini shall be served up in a new Song Airlines martini glass Big grin



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User currently offlineCsavel From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1376 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1111 times:

Big question

Could you stop easily if you had to?
Could you go somewhere for a week where no alcohol is being served without freaking out? If you can then your not an alcoholic. But without nannying you, the fact that you're doing a lot of drinking almost nightly sounds to me like something is going on in your life - something that you need to deal with.

My 2 cents.



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User currently online727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6637 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1108 times:

Matter of fact, tonights martini shall be served up in a new Song Airlines martini glass

DANG! Where'd ya get that??? (Says w/ envy.)  Big thumbs up

That reminds me, if you have any WN goodies, I'd love some. err..I'd LUV some!  Laugh out loud I always keep the plastic cup and napkin when I fly.



I feel woozy....what did you put in that Pudding Pop?
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1103 times:

Dont like drinking in the morning. Typically after sunset (no clue why).

I also only drink after sunset, never during the day, I also don't know why.

I would say that you are not an alcoholic when things like you job, your family and your friends are more important for you than alcohol.

Patrick


User currently offlineJkw777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1099 times:

I haven't had a drink since December 19th 2003! Never felt better.  Big thumbs up

Justin  Smile


User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7444 posts, RR: 62
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1093 times:
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Hey, SWA TPA, I love that 'tini recipe  Big grin

It a 'tini or glass of wine a night defines an alcoholic, then I'm busted.

Seriouslym
I think what wanting to drink and needing to drink are the issue.

If its a want, its OK in moderation.

Hell, even the AMA advocates a glass of red a day helps your heart.



But seriously, if you are getting sloshed everynight or if your activities or that of those around you are being affected, then you may have a problem. But thats not the case is it?

-M




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User currently offlineSWA TPA From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1560 posts, RR: 34
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1084 times:

M-

Getting a good buzz but certainly not sloshed. I dont like to be sloshed  Sad Also I want but dont need to drink.

727Lover-

Got the glass off E-Bay. It just arrived today  Big thumbs up
There is another one up for grabs from the same guy right now.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2227334033&category=809

Dont really have anything of interest Southwest wise. They dont have alot of free things. Most of it we have to buy from the freedom shop. You can access that from Southwest.com!

SWA TPA



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User currently offlineKYIPpilot From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1079 times:

My definition of an alcoholic is someone that depends on alcohol to help them feel better, get through tough times, etc. Usually occurs from stress of a job, family problems, etc.


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User currently offlineScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1069 times:

SWA_TPA, a definition I have read is that you can be considered alcoholic if you could not go without a drink for three months.

I believe you have children, right? As the child of alcoholics, let me just say that what might seem like moderation to you may scare your children. If drinking causes you to act strangely or smell funny or say something when you are buzzed that you forget later, your kids will remember this...for a very very long time. It's really frightening and hard to deal with when you are small.

Seriously, girl, sit down and think about why you might feel the need to make your life fuzzy on a regular basis.



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User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10350 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 1041 times:

Speaking from personal experience (unfortunately), when the alcohol takes precedence over other things in your life, then there is definitely a problem. I was (and still am) dealing with that. It took me a basically wasted semester (no pun intended) to realize what I was doing to myself. And though I still drink, I'm learning not to let it take such a stranglehold on my life and especially my education. I as well try not to let myself drink before 6 or 7 pm.

It has been a struggle for me; therefore, I would say that if it is a problem for you to go without drinking for an extended period of time, then it is definitely something you should work through. You can email me if you have any questions; when it comes to this kind of problem, I'm more than willing to share my experiences.
~Vik



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User currently offlineIMisspiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6345 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1023 times:

Without getting into all the "signs" claimed by others, you may well be an alchoholic if you cannot see going without for more than a couple days. or think that you have no problem. In fact, if you spend the day thinking about how nice that drink will be tonight, you've got a problem.

Just posting the question should be a warning sign. Tread carefully, you're playing with fire.



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User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1018 times:

SWA TPA, This very topic is doing the heavy rotation at our house at the moment. My wife likes to have her glasses of wine in the evening. While she isn't polishing off a bottle a night, she is certainly having 2-4 glasses every single night, and like you said, she isnt sloshed, but well buzzed.

She does not see it as a problem, I see it as a major problem. Thing is, drinking doesn't make you clever, and I find that once she has a few in her, I have no interest in talking to her any more, I find that the quality of the conversation drops, she has that dull blank drunk look on her face, therefore not looking overly attractive to me either.

I would not define it as alcoholism, but it has put me off drinking now. If this happened once in a while, she coiuld get as sloshed as she likes, it isn't my business, but every night gets a little tired.

I have a few friends in similar positions, although usually it is the guy drinking, and not the woman

Jeremy


User currently offlineJetService From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4798 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1012 times:

There's two kinds of alcoholics: one is the classic chemically depend guy that drinks constantly and every day (what everyone thinks of when you say 'alcoholic'); and the other is the guy who doesn't drink often-maybe once a week, but once he starts he loses control and never stops until he's hammered out of his gourd. The first one usually ends up with health problems and the second usually gets in trouble with the law.

But keep in mind, if you get plastered once in awhile or have a drink or two every day, that doesn't mean you're an automatic alcoholic. Everyone's different. If you're really concerned, ask a pro. They'll assess you.



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User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7444 posts, RR: 62
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1004 times:
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SWA, I think jetservice put it best.

I mean, the medical literature shows that a nightly glass of red can be a benefit.



In my personal and professional opinion, I would not classify that as alcoholism. I certainly want my one PM spirits but don't need them either.



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User currently offlineVikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10350 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 996 times:

Another thing to keep in mind which I forgot to say above...
Alcoholism is a very personal thing. Therefore, you may not be going through the same scenario that I am going through or that other people went through. While there will be parallels, you cannot measure it by the sheer amount of drinks consumed per night. I've gone to some alcohol abuse meetings (not AA) and have found that some of the people there were in much worse situations than I was, but that our thought patterns were similar. What I'm saying is that you really shouldn't base whether or not you're an alcoholic solely on other people's experiences. It is a personal problem, though it may be caused in part by outside influences, and will definitely affect those close to you.
For me, alcohol was and still is an escape from problems in life, even though it is also fun. I would suggest that if you feel the same way, then you might want to take a hard look at your drinking. Once again, feel free to email me if you have any questions.
~Vik



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User currently offlineKilavoud From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 990 times:

I think that as long as you do not go beyond what your liver is managing to handle, it's OK.

There are some websites giving more information about that. But one thing is sure : your liver is your friend as long as you respect its own capacity of working, which may be less than yours.

A liver, like any other organ, is a gift of God and has no price. So be careful if you want going on enjoying some more drinks without problem for your own future.  Smile  Smile

Cheers. Kilavoud.


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 19, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 972 times:

An Alcoholic always has an excuse.

User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 969 times:

SWA TPA,

You've kinda hit a nerve with me because I have the same thoughts running through my head. My thinking is, if it is a concern to you, you may at least want to talk to somebody about those emotions. I too like to drink, but it's not on a regular basis. My dad has a problem and it concerns me sometimes that it may be "hereditary". I definitely don't want to turn into him. I never want to embarrass my family the way he has. On the other hand, I'll go out with friends, hoop it up and have a great time. But it hangs over my head, you know? Did my dad go through the same thing? No problems early on, but then it turns bad. I'd say talk to someone at least.

Good luck!  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineSimpleMinded From Turkmenistan, joined Feb 2004, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 966 times:

al·co·hol·ic
adj.
Related to or resulting from alcohol.
Containing or preserved in alcohol.
Suffering from alcoholism.

n.
A person who drinks alcoholic substances habitually and to excess or who suffers from alcoholism.




Personally I think it is a person who can't stop drinking even if they wanted to, which more than likely they don't want to.


ciao
SM



Um, I like..... yea ok
User currently offlineKilavoud From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 958 times:

Most of the doctors will tell you that you shouldn't lie in the sun, especially at noon, because of..... I just do not care. When the sun is at its highest position in the sky, and when I am in my home in southern India, I go up on the terrace roof of my house and stay about 25 minutes in the sun, wearing only bathing trunks, turning side up and side down. It makes me happy and I just like it.

I think it is the same for alcohol : a question of measure.

Do not allow people to meddle in your life if you feel able to measure something that does not please to others but help you to keep well balanced and happy.

But do not forget : measure !!! And be happy !!!

Cheers. Kilavoud.


User currently offlineChris78cpr From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2823 posts, RR: 50
Reply 23, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 948 times:

The bottle of whisket under the pillow syndrome is a good sign!!!

Hell some even use the whiskey as the pillow!!!

Chris



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User currently offlineGoingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 933 times:

A friend of mine told me a story about his days in the Marines. Someone had put up a poster of Jack Daniels in the barracks, with a hand written sign that said "Murph's best friend". The CO was interviewing others to see if this person was an alcoholic. When he asked my friend, he said "No" When asked why he answered that way, he responded "An alcoholic always wants a drink....Murph always HAS a drink".

User currently offlineSWA TPA From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 1560 posts, RR: 34
Reply 25, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 915 times:

Boeing Nut-

I also worry because on my dads side of the family alcoholism runs strong! Grandpa, starts drinking almost as soon as he gets up! Straight vodka on the rocks, blehck!
Everyday, smashed. The man is almost in his 80's now. My Aunt on that side, lush.
Neither one of my parents though EVER drink. They would be appalled with me if they knew.
Also I don't drink every night. Like tonight, I have no desire to go mix one up so we will skip the libations this evening  Smile

SWA TPA - Concerned Irish Lass Big grin



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