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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 6115 times:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=562&e=13&u=/ap/drive_by_porn


Drivers Spot X-Rated Films in Other Cars

By DAVID RUNK, Associated Press Writer


DETROIT - Andrea Carlton hadn't planned on telling her daughter about the birds and bees until she was 8 or 9. But that changed the night 4-year-old Catherine spotted a porno movie flickering on a screen in a minivan nearby.

"Just like there's no windows in a strip club, you shouldn't be able to see inside windows in a car when they're watching X-rated movies," said Carlton, a 26-year-old from Gurnee, Ill.


More and more Americans are buying vehicles with DVD players, usually to keep the kids entertained. But an increasing number of other people on the road are catching a glimpse through the windows of more than just "Finding Nemo" and "SpongeBob SquarePants."


Depending on where they are driving or parked, motorists could face fines and even jail time for screening X-rated stuff. But where the law may not be clear, some are calling for tighter regulation.


"Residents should not be subjected to those obscenities," said Flint City Councilwoman Carolyn Sims, who is examining whether an ordinance packing a $500 fine is needed. "They do have a right to have peace and tranquility and not to have this exposure to sex in their face."


A driver in Schenectady, N.Y., was arrested last month after rolling past police with a DVD titled "Chocolate Foam" playing on the passenger-side sun visor in his Mercedes-Benz, authorities said. The movie also was rolling on screens set into the car's headrests.


The driver was accused of breaking state laws prohibiting watching TV while driving, as well as another law making it illegal to exhibit sexually explicit material in a public place.


"The detective had a clear view of what was playing through the window. Anyone walking by on the street could have seen it," Schenectady police Lt. Peter Frisoni Jr. said of the nighttime traffic stop. "If he had dark, tinted windows where you couldn't see in, that wouldn't be a public display."


As for Carlton, she was driving in the Chicago suburb of Buffalo Grove with her daughter when Catherine glimpsed the sexually explicit movie. The experience last fall upset the girl and angered Carlton.


Carlton and her husband sat down with Catherine and offered the best explanation they could. Since then, Carlton has spotted other motorists with explicit movies playing, including a couple watching from the back seat of their car in a store parking lot.


"You're not allowed to have sex in your car, so why are you allowed to watch it?" Carlton asked.


Most states, including Michigan, have laws that make it illegal to watch TV while driving. Laws governing the exhibition of pornography vary by state, but experts say they could be applied to drivers as well.


"I think those restrictions would apply if the content is located in a vehicle," said Jeff Matsuura, director of the law and technology program at the University of Dayton. "You have effectively moved beyond the privacy of your own home."


During the day, it is often difficult to see what is playing inside another vehicle. But at night, the screens are easily visible from a passing car or a vehicle stopped alongside at a traffic light. The screens are also getting bigger.


In Flint, Sims took up the issue after hearing from a woman who was driving with her 5-year-old when she spotted porn playing on a vehicle's 13-inch TV screen. A police officer who happened to see the display pulled over the driver, Sims said, but let him off with a warning.


To Sims, a 23-year police veteran who retired in 2001, playing an explicit movie in view of other motorists or pedestrians is akin to flashing or having sex in a public place.


But Michigan State Police, who have not had any cases of in-car porn, say playing an X-rated movie might not be easy to prosecute unless it can be proved that the motorist intended for others to see it.






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Now this just takes the cake!
Why is it that only mothers get to bitch and have laws passed banning for freedoms?
Shouldn't there be a law passed against nosy people lookingin to other peoples cars?

"They do have a right to have peace and tranquility and not to have this exposure to sex in their face."

Give me a break!
I find a lot of porn to be more peaceful and tranquil that Finding Nemo and Barney.




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User currently offlineAn-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3950 posts, RR: 40
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6081 times:

I don't know, Larry, but this country is getting more and more ridiculous. Just because of that, I want to buy a big ass van with some huge TV screens, drive around and corrupt children's minds everywhere  Smile/happy/getting dizzy.

Alex.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6065 times:

An-225:
I thought I'd never see myself defending those SUV drivers with DVD players in there obnoxious vehicles.
This just gives the government more power to infringe on our individual rights.
No police has the power to judge what those watch on TV in there mini-vans/SUVs.




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User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8289 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6062 times:

Look, I'm about as libertarian as they come when it comes to personal freedoms, but this is pretty clear-cut:

"The detective had a clear view of what was playing through the window. Anyone walking by on the street could have seen it," Schenectady police Lt. Peter Frisoni Jr. said of the nighttime traffic stop. "If he had dark, tinted windows where you couldn't see in, that wouldn't be a public display."

That's an airtight legal argument right there.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6054 times:

Aaron747:
Good to see you here in the forums again.

"If he had dark, tinted windows where you couldn't see in, that wouldn't be a public display."

That's an airtight legal argument right there.



Not really. Did you know that if your windows are tinted too dark, you can get a ticket?
Whare do you draw the line?






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User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6053 times:

People can just mind their own business and don't look into other peoples cars. Thats private property. It would be the same as if people kept staring into your window in the livingroom. Porn will probably soon be illegal to watch in the livingroom because someone from the street can see right in to te livingroom.


User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8289 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6052 times:

If you're stupid enough to be doing so with the curtains wide open, sure.


If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
User currently offlineQIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6050 times:

Im not stupid enough to do it witout curtains. I live in an appartment on 3rd floor. So I dont care. But I was thinkin more about those people who does watch porn in their livingroom.

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6046 times:

I remember having sex with my ex on the beach between these huge rocks near the Golden Gate Bridge. I swear no one could see us.
When we finished, we heard this roar up on the hilltop of about a half dozen guys cheering at us, whistling and clapping their hands. I just took a bow and my girlfriend was laughing in embarrassment.

I am sure all who saw managed to still get good grades in school and find decent jobs.
Hell they probably even learned something to enhance there relationships.  Smile



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineLY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6004 times:

Sex?! God forbid!  Wow!


LY744.



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User currently offlineDavid b. From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3148 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 6001 times:

If you don't like the movie playing in the car, don't watch or look  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Teenage-know-it-alls should be shot on sight
User currently offlineStartvalve From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5995 times:

"I think those restrictions would apply if the content is located in a vehicle," said Jeff Matsuura, director of the law and technology program at the University of Dayton. "You have effectively moved beyond the privacy of your own home."


Wow someone from University of Dayton, they must have been digging pretty deep to turn up a professor from a third rate law school.


User currently offlineProsimtec From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5984 times:

Well, it's kind of pathetic if you need porn while your driving your car, but nonetheless, what could follow? Would someone be offended if they saw a Playboy mag. on your front seat? How about if the song your listening to has vulgar lyrics? What if they didn't like your Pro Choice or Anti Abortion bumper sticker?
I've seen Mini-Vans and Suv's with movies playing in them as I've driven along side them. The screens are so small, I could never tell if it was porn or Disney...seems like you'd really have to get close and stare to figure out what is playing. Now there's a privacy invasion.




User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5950 times:

Prosimtec:
Well, it's kind of pathetic if you need porn while your driving your car

Who said anyone "needed" porn when they drive?



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineCptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3220 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5937 times:

This kind of deal will probably have a local law written, but will probably also boil down to case-by-case scenarios. I imagine there are occassional complaints filed against neighbors having sex in plain view of casual passersby when the curtains open in their own homes, and conversely, there are anti "peeping Tom" laws. Same so with porn movies in "public view".

As far as vulgar lyrics music in a car, many communities have (or should have)a nusance decible law that should take care of that.

In any event, the importance of such cases will probably be more signifiant to the padding of lawyer's pocketbooks more than a freedom threat. Regards...Jack



all best; jack
User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5919 times:

I'm rather shocked at the selfish attitudes here. I'm no prude, but I think that people should be required to show a minimum of common decency in their lives, and that includes not showing porno movies in full view of any child who happens to be looking out of his window.

You say that this is a further reduction of freedom. Well, how about the freedom of others to raise their child the way they want to? Do you think that people should be allowed to walk naked down a public street (make he/she really fat and ugly)? How about laws against theft, rape, assault and murder, aren't they restrictions on freedom too?

The Social Contract of Democracy is where people are willing to sacrifice some of their freedoms for the common good. Total freedom for all also has names - anarchy and chaos being among them.

Charles


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40070 posts, RR: 74
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5913 times:

Cfalf:
I'm no prude

Oh yes you are! Big grin
I don't see how this is considered selfish.

I think that people should be required to show a minimum of common decency in their lives

I agree with you on that but should it be mandated by the government?

Well, how about the freedom of others to raise their child the way they want to?

I agree with that as well. Raise you child to mind there own business and that peeking in to other people's private property can get them in to lots of trouble.


How about laws against theft, rape, assault and murder,

Don't be ridiculous! Those are ruthless crimes that hurt people people. It is not the same.

Some people here really need to come down off there moral high horse.


Re-read my #2 post. I tend not to like these kind off people anyway but I don't agree with stepping on there rights either.



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User currently offlineL.1011 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2209 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5895 times:

Oh my god. I'm agreeing with Superfly over CFalk! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Anyway. Lol. People SHOULD be proscecuted if they have porn playing in the front seat where the driver can watch it. But, if people want to watch porn in the backseat, go right ahead. Most back windows are tinted anyway. Your car is your private property. You paid for it, or are leasing it, and you can do what you want inside it.

User currently offlineAn-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3950 posts, RR: 40
Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5887 times:

Instead of looking at what's going on inside other people's cars, you need to keep your hands on the wheel (yes, that means off the cellphone) and your eyes on the road. As for your kids, teach them to appreciate the female curves! Big grin

Alex.



Money does not bring you happiness. But it's better to cry in your own private limo than on a cold bus stop.
User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5875 times:

""Just like there's no windows in a strip club, you shouldn't be able to see inside windows in a car when they're watching X-rated movies," said Carlton, a 26-year-old from Gurnee, Ill. "

What the hell kinda dumb bitch is she? Did she grow up in a convent? What they hell is "shouldn't be able to see"? Psh, then don't see, you have that choice, puta! Drive faster, slam the brakes or take a turn -- don't freakin look! That's like if I saw her and her hubby gettin it on though the window while happening to walk by her place, now they have to pledge to no-sex?

"Residents should not be subjected to those obscenities," said Flint City Councilwoman Carolyn Sims, who is examining whether an ordinance packing a $500 fine is needed. "They do have a right to have peace and tranquility and not to have this exposure to sex in their face." "

EXCUSE ME, no one was forcing her or her kids to look, their curiousity could have gotten them killed if they weren't watching the road! Will a jury really buy the idea that a guy saw a porn in a nother car, lost control and killed someone? NO! If it was a lady that lost control, well, she's a bitch anyway.

[Edited 2004-03-11 21:35:38]


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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8372 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5875 times:

People can just mind their own business and don't look into other peoples cars

Have you ever been stuck behind a van with one of those TVs? It's impossible to not look in. The only way to ignore it would be to put your head down, thus making it impossible to drive. Those TVs are also very distracting. I was driving down the highway next to a car with one and the flickering in my periferal vision was really annoying. (Let alone Pornos kids watching porn.)



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User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8372 posts, RR: 23
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5871 times:

By the way, your car is not your house. If I have the same rights in my car as I do in my house, then why can't I have sex in my car in the middle of traffic? It's okay in the privacy of my home, but not in my car- and for obvious reasons. This whole deal is the same way. Put a curtain in your car (just like a house), then I won't care.


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User currently offlineSeb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11800 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5849 times:

I was working cashier in drive thru one day about six months ago and a woman, very causual about the whole thing, has a porn going in her DVD player, and she was on the phone! Just like this is an every day thing. Besides that, the only time I have ever seen a TV screen in a van or car is at night: A soccer mom and group of kids were going into Portland watching Finding Nemo.

How about instead of banning porns in cars we ban TVs in cars? That should be more the issue. But no. Soccer moms think they still rule.

GO CANUCKS!!



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User currently offlineSovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2648 posts, RR: 17
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 5835 times:
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Wow this is so cool because i live in Buffalo grove  Laugh out loud  Laugh out loud lol wow I gotta go cruise around and find this dude...

User currently offlineBruno From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 853 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5809 times:

N766UA


why can't I have sex in my car in the middle of traffic?

I certainly would mind seeing you bang a hot babe in your car as long as it's in the parking lot.  Smile

That is a very weak argument. The DVD/Video players are for the passengers. If the guys are out for the evening, they have every right to pop in a video of there choice. You can't have penetration sex while driving. My girlfriends have given me b/js and hand jobs while I was driving many times and I still have a clean driving record and I certainly didn't poison the minds of little kids.



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25 CMK10 : But with my busy life I only have time to watch porn when I'm driving!
26 Sccutler : 1. Driving is a privilege, not a "right." Hence... 2. ...reasonable restrictions may be placed on the licensure of persons to exercise that privilege.
27 Post contains images Superfly : Sccutler: I have two nieces and I see the changes my sister and her husband deal with that all parents deal with. Part of being a parent is teaching y
28 DLKAPA : I have the solution to the whole problem right there: If you don't want to see it, THEN DON'T FREAKING LOOK AT IT!!! DLKAPA
29 IMissPiedmont : And I am agreeing with Calk on this one. Will wonders never cease? Children look in other cars, that's a pure given fact, and displaying pornography w
30 Superfly : This article is also a good plug for the porn flick Chocolate Foam . I've never heard of this movie but I guess I need to go out and rent it now so th
31 Post contains images Cfalk : art of being a parent is teaching your children to respect other respect peoples private property. Larry, how in the hell do you expect to drive aroun
32 Post contains images Superfly : Cfalk: he was watching Kim Catrall bone the delivery boy? Man I'd really be interested in seeing your stash of videos! I am still uneasy with the gove
33 Sccutler : I am still uneasy with the government having that much power. Amen, brother! To be honest, I am sort of stunned that we need to even have the discussi
34 An-225 : Another issue to consider is - what's deemed as porn anyway? It could be just a makeout scene that will raise hairs on the backs of all those prudes.
35 Superfly : Sccutler & An-225: I agree with both of you two. I am concerned about over-zelous police officers and them having just one more reason to search someo
36 Post contains images EA CO AS : Here's the law I'd want: Soccer Moms are no longer entitled to opinions on anything
37 Cfalk : I still think they have a right to watch what thye want to watch on TV in there vehicle. OK, look at it this way. Agreed, you can watch your bestialit
38 IMissPiedmont : "(of course I'll keep my videos hidden under lock & key)." But Larry, you think it's OK for someone else to drive along with it in plain view of anoth
39 Cfalk : IMissPiedmont, I think Larry believes it is reasonable for the rest of us to train our kids not to look outside the car, or to blindfold them. Charles
40 Post contains images Superfly : Cfalk: ....you can watch your bestiality or kiddie porn tapes.... ......at the beginning of all these tapes is an FBI warning.. Do you know this from
41 Post contains images RockyRacoon : I read this thread towards the end of last week. Ironically, saturday night driving down the highway, I exprerienced it first hand. Caught a little po
42 Cytz_pilot : "Residents should not be subjected to those obscenities," said Flint City Councilwoman Carolyn Sims, who is examining whether an ordinance packing a $
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