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Has Man Really Landed On The Moon?  
User currently offlineEurotrans3111 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3990 times:

Ever since I saw that programme on British Television its made me wonder about the first moon landing. If MAN really did go to the moon all those years ago why hasn't He been there since the historic landing ? With the technology we have now, particularly the Space Shuttles and all the satellites that are being sent far into the Solar System ( and beyond) and not forgetting our beloved Concorde who could fly at such a great height, it leaves us asking why hasn't there been another mission to the Moon in these modern times?
The question is has Man REALLY been to the moon at all?. Watching the claims that the landing of the sixties was a fabrication does make one wonder.
I'm not sure what to believe anymore.  Confused

Eurotrans


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User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3884 times:

Yes. Yes we have. Filler.

User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3992 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3882 times:

Nice thread.

I am subscribed to a magazine in which the moon landings had questioned some time ago. They included pictures in which you could see strange things and the reasons they gave were logical. It really made me wander if man actually had been on the moon.


User currently offlineTom in NO From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 7194 posts, RR: 32
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3881 times:

You haven't been watching "Capricorn One" again, have you?!  Smile
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077294

Tom at MSY



"The criminal ineptitude makes you furious"-Bruce Springsteen, after seeing firsthand the damage from Hurricane Katrina
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3875 times:

It really made me wander if man actually had been on the moon.

Really? Where did you go?

Man has landed on the moon.

Tada!

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html


User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3992 posts, RR: 55
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3858 times:

Well, they came with good arguments. It's like the story says in the link you posted, about the faked pictures and stuff.

User currently offlineKLM777 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3857 times:

If MAN really did go to the moon all those years ago why hasn't He been there since the historic landing?

Because there is not much to do at the moon, it's not much more than a giant mirror, nothing really spectacular, at least to my knowledge...

Kind regards,

Jeroen



Every landing is a controlled crash
User currently offlineAirKas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 3992 posts, RR: 55
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3849 times:

Couldn't you do a lot of useful science there?

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3838 times:

Couldn't you do a lot of useful science there?

Like what? Bear in mind just how expensive and dangerous it is to get there.


User currently offlineWellHung From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3836 times:

Well, you know that Fox show was pretty convincing. They had the leading conspiracy theorists in the world. As a matter of fact, I saw one guy on a JFK documentary, too. Said Castro rigged a lawnmower to malfunction and shoot its blade into JFK's head. And he had all this great evidence to back it up - like a diagram he drew.

User currently offlineJutes85 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3828 times:

Said Castro rigged a lawnmower to malfunction and shoot its blade into JFK's head. And he had all this great evidence to back it up - like a diagram he drew

Is there a website where I can get more info?



No, man did not land on the moon - the Soviets beat them to it.  Yeah sure


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19229 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3828 times:

"If you believe they put a man on the moon, man on the moon. If you believe there's nothing obviously..."

Some lyrics from one of my favourite bands.

I have no doubt that people have landed on the moon. It would be very exciting indeed if an extra world - full of life or past life - was found.




"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4105 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3821 times:

I doubt it too

Sam Smile



Despite the name I am a Boeing man through and through!
User currently offlineFSPilot747 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 3599 posts, RR: 12
Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3813 times:

"If MAN really did go to the moon all those years ago why hasn't He been there since the historic landing ?"

We have. There have been several trips to the moon since Apollo 11.


FSP


User currently offlineAviationMaster From Switzerland, joined Oct 1999, 2481 posts, RR: 34
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3802 times:

"If MAN really did go to the moon all those years ago why hasn't He been there since the historic landing ?"

Give me a good reason why man should return to the moon?  Smile


This topic actually came up last week in my class. Some saying that the US never landed on the moon. But why would the US invest billions in a project that would have never materialized. One could colonize the moon and still some jacka$$ would say that no one has ever landed there. You can compare it with saying that America (meaning the continent) has yet to be discovered.

Buenas noches,
Christian


User currently offlineQ330 From Australia, joined Dec 2003, 1460 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3797 times:

Yes, of course we have been to the moon. Every time there's a big achievement there will be conspiracy theories.

Just because I took a trip to Europe 4 years ago, and haven't been back since, doesn't mean I didn't really go. What kind of reason is that to think I was pretending?

I don't know why we haven't been back to the moon yet. Maybe because it isn't as interesting as the other planets and their moons. I think the best research that can be done on the moon would be to build a base and see how humans cope with life away from earth.

777263ER, thanks for posting that link. badastronomy.com is an excellent site for refuting the conspiracy theories, and all of you doubters should read it.

-Q



Long live the A330!
User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3783 times:

Watch it, Neil Armstrong is my Great Uncle, and yes, he landed on the moon, as I recall, the FIRST. So, yes he landed on the moon.
Alex



Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3777 times:

I doubt it too

Well good for you. Why do you doubt it?


User currently offlineAvObserver From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 2472 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3767 times:

As someone who watched ALL of the historic Apollo landings and expeditions televised on TV, with coverage stretching over days, I've no doubt whatsoever the U.S. put astronauts on the moon. You couldn't fake all that and have all the independent news organizations in on the conspiracy. Besides, astronomical observatories also tracked the trajectories of the Apollo spacecraft from earth orbit through translunar insertion all the way to the moon and back. With all those people looking, you couldn't say you were sending a ship to the moon but not do so without it being obvious. Maybe one can't absolutely prove there were astronauts on board but the ships did go there. And if all those shots of the astronauts on the linar surface were faked, ala the movie, "Capricorn One", then it was the most brilliant special effects job ever, far surpassing even Kubrick's "2001". I can see how people born after that time might be skeptical, particularly due to these folks that write books and produce programs about it being a hoax. But those history twisters have but one thing on their mind: $$$! If you lived through that time and followed it as fervently as I did, you would believe. And I assure you all, IT WAS REAL!!!

User currently offlineContinental From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5517 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3763 times:

Yes we have landed on the moon, and in your face Russia!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4490 posts, RR: 21
Reply 20, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 3747 times:

The people that claim that are the same nuts that said NASA blew up Challenger on purpose.


I got my head checked--by a jumbo jet
User currently offlineGo4EVA From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3741 times:

Well, I work for NASA, and used to be stationed at the Johnson Space Center in Houston, where a lot of the personnel and equipment still around are located. If I were to ignore the mountains of other evidence that man went to the moon, my 6.5 years at JSC convinced me we could and did.

That's the most I could add to this discussion... not much really. $0.02.

God bless,

- Jeff

Interesting topic  Smile


User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8269 posts, RR: 23
Reply 22, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3714 times:

Hamsters landed on the moon first....


This Website Censors Me
User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3707 times:

I'm an Apollo nut, and have read all the books in print written by or about the astronauts and the people that led the effort on the ground, like Chris Kraft, Bob Gilruth, Von Braun, Tom Kelly, Max Faget and others. Apollo was developed and performed in full public view all the way, with reporters and camera around every corner, as opposed to the Soviet effort, where nobody knew there was a launch until it was already over. There were 400,000 people involved in Apollo, and not one person, in 30 years, has ever put out a substantially different story. There is no doubt, the moonlandings happened, and the books that are available, written by people who were there, would give you an amazing story of how they did it, step by step.

The reason why nobody went back there afterwards was a result of the reason why we went in the first place. Kennedy called for a crash program to get to the moon and back within 9 years. Apollo accomplished the mission, but with single-minded purpose. Get there, and come back. The only thing that came back to earth out of the entire nearly 400-foot Saturn V stack was the tiny command module. Extremely inefficient and wasteful. But it worked, and served the purpose for which it was designed within the timeframe alloted by Kennedy.

NASA actually did not want the job. NASA wanted a slower but steadier approach, first developing a space station, then a space shuttle to go back and forth between the earth and the station, and the station to be used as a base from which to send missions to the moon using far larger vehicles than what was possible from a single Saturn V launch from earth. Apollo was a shortchut to bypass the station and the shuttle.

After Apollo came Skylab, and the Space Shuttle was then designed to shuttle between the Earth and Skylab, at least to start with. But the shuttle fell behind schedule, and Skylab fell back to Earth in 1979, so the Shuttle had no place to shuttle back and forth between. Finally with the ISS, it has a job for which it was originally designed (and was proposed by NASA back in 1960-61).

The problem with ISS is that it is a mish-mash of parts from everywhere, and has a difficult time simply staying in one piece. If man wants to go to Mars, it would require a far larger earth-launched vehicle than even the Saturn V, or you could make numerous smaller lauches (using Shuttles) and assemple the pieces at the station (Earth Orbit Rendezvous). But this assumes that the station is more than some floundering space whale, but is a place where there are workshops, maintainance and repair facilities, research and testing labs, etc. I.E., we are talking about a space station far more advanced than ISS.

Charles


User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3680 times:

Cfalk, a manned Mars launch could be done on a smaller rocket platform if it were done in several phases. I recall reading one plan where unmanned rockets would deploy various modules to Mars. A small, manned ship is launched with enough fuel for a round trip, only containing the astronauts and supplies needed to keep them alive in space for the 6-9 months.

25 Cfalk : Cfalk, a manned Mars launch could be done on a smaller rocket platform if it were done in several phases. That's right. I was refering to an all-up la
26 NWA Man : But why would the US invest billions in a project that would have never materialized. Hehe... ahh, you're not American... explains it. The U.S. invest
27 Cfalk : It will one day be settled. One day, 10, 20, 100, or 10,000 years from now, someone will return to the Sea of Tranquility, the Ocean of Storms, Hadley
28 MD11Engineer : Currently there is a new telescope under construction at the European ESA Southern Hemisphere observatory in Chile. Acc. to what I´ve head, once read
29 FDXmech : >>>........it leaves us asking why hasn't there been another mission to the Moon in these modern times?
30 Post contains images BartiniMan : Ive read convincing articles (not by the stupid conspiracy theorists) on why NASA hasn't been back to the moon. Many people believe that the astronaut
31 Post contains images Go4EVA : Ive read convincing articles (not by the stupid conspiracy theorists) on why NASA hasn't been back to the moon. Many people believe that the astronaut
32 Post contains images Flyingbronco05 : There is no wind on the moon, yet the flag is waving. What's up with that? I'm not saying we didn't land on the moon, but I'm also not saying that we
33 Post contains images BartiniMan : Gee, Go4EVA, Im sure you're the bloke at NASA that knows everything and is told everything. I wouldnt be surprised now if you told me that you know wh
34 Cfalk : There is no wind on the moon, yet the flag is waving. What's up with that? There is a wire along the top edge that holds the flag out. Pretty low-tech
35 Jhooper : I do believe that we went to the moon, but what's the explanation for the alleged "fake" photos??? Again, I'm not saying that it's a conspiracy, but I
36 777236ER : Flyingbroncos05: You take great delight in telling people this, so I'm going to take great delight in telling you: 1. Check it out on Google first. 2.
37 Yyz717 : There is no wind on the moon, yet the flag is waving. What's up with that? Maybe it's just stiff and crinkly. That would explain it.
38 Cptkrell : Of course we have been to the moon, as documented, however there is a conspiracy of omital of published information that Bartiniman suggests. From the
39 Post contains links Ybacpa : To everyone that discounts anyone that questions whether we ever landed on the moon, all I ask is for a minute have an open mind and take a look at th
40 Go4EVA : Gee, Go4EVA, Im sure you're the bloke at NASA that knows everything and is told everything. I wouldnt be surprised now if you told me that you know wh
41 Post contains links 777236ER : Lol!! That video is hilarious. You might want to look at the link at the BOTTOM of the page that says "And click here to discover that the above is al
42 Arsenal@LHR : The conspiracy theorists make some strong points, but one source you cannot discount is the Soviets. The Soviets were watching carefully, and if they
43 Post contains images Ybacpa : 777236ER, -yb
44 Backfire : Two weeks ago I met Gene Cernan of Apollo 17. Call me naive, but HE'S pretty goddamn certain he walked on the moon.
45 Post contains images RockyRacoon : How bout the Russians? I find it hard to believe they never landed a Cosmonaut on the moon, regardless if they were number two or not. They couldn't t
46 Go4EVA : P.S. "Friend", I come from a land down under. Approximately 16 hours into the future from where you live. Ah yes... The Australian Space Agency is qui
47 Cfalk : RockyRacoon, The Russians had 2 problems that they simply could not figure out in time to land on the moon, although they were pretty close to attempt
48 PanAm330 : I remember a few years back, there was a special on FOX regarding the theories behind sci-fi experts, and landing on the moon. While I think that most
49 Post contains links Cfalk : By the way, most of the photos which are shown on the conspiracy web sites which supposedly show the same landmarkes in different places, are fake. I
50 Post contains links L-188 : NOVA did a show a fear years back where they gained access to the werehouse that houses the remnants of the soviet moon program. It was very interesti
51 Andz : No, man did not land on the moon - the Soviets beat them to it. So what were the Soviets then?
52 Alpha 1 : Amazing how gullible and naive some people are. We went there; we came back. Now, let's discuss if Hitler and JFK ares still alive, OK? Oh, and maybe
53 High_flyr69 : someone could have edited the photos to make them look fake just as easy as they could have edited to make them look real. cheers high_flyr69
54 BartiniMan : Firstly, all you people who are a bit persuaded by the whole flag waving theory, I ask you this; if "it was filmed in a studio", where would the "wind
55 Post contains images Go4EVA : Go4EVA, off all the people I thought you'd be a bit more open-minded about this whole issue regarding the other side of the moon. Like I said before,
56 J.mo : Go4EVA, There is no Area51 Actually there is. Look for R-4809 encompassed by R-4807A on a low level enroute chart NW of Las Vegas. Jeremy
57 BartiniMan : Go4EVA read what Cptkrell wrote (reply 38) and you'll have a basic idea of what was in that article that I read, instead of making irrelevant posts th
58 Post contains images Go4EVA : BartiniMan, Go4EVA read what Cptkrell wrote (reply 38) and you'll have a basic idea of what was in that article that I read, instead of making irrelev
59 Post contains images Cptkrell : Bartiniman; "Go read what Cptkrell wrote (reply 38)..." Are you serious? That's the kind of low-grade drivel I can be responsible for after consuming
60 Post contains images Lehpron : Are you freaking kidding me? >> "Ever since I saw that programme on British Television its made me wonder about the first moon landing."
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