Haveric From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1247 posts, RR: 4 Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4969 times:
Ironically, this came on the day that talks were scheduled between Israeli and Palestinian leaders. I guess some people don't want to try to work towards peace. Regardless of what you think about Bush's "roadmap," bombings on the eve of peace talks won't ever resolve the situation.
Galaxy5 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2034 posts, RR: 26 Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4928 times:
Im not sure if it was islamic terrorists, it could have been CIA operatives, or maybe swedish suicide groups, possibly British SAS, or maybe even cub scouts from Cleveland. But we shouldn't jump to conclusions.
"damn, I didnt know prince could Ball like that" - Charlie Murphy
Go Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 11 Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4907 times:
The problem is that terrorists dont want the peace process and hamas and others have succeed because from peace ful talks we now have both sides living in fear of each other because hamas wrecked the peace process though its campaign, to hamas it cant make peace with the jews. Arafat now is irrelvant meaning that hamas is growing in power, it funds schools, it funds hospitals and it is brainwashing a whole generation. This means israel reacts which causes more violence. the only wqy for peace is for both moderate sides to come forward.We have seen moderates like barak offer statehood, compensation etc but the moderates in palestine are too weak and need building up.
It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit
Jutes85 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4868 times:
Yeah, and when the Israeli's retaliate, they accidentally end-up killing a child, and they are the ones who look like the terrorists. Why doesn't Israel just take control of Palistine and the Gaza Strip and end this.
LY744 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 5536 posts, RR: 10 Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4847 times:
Agree with all said so far in this thread, but I just wanted to comment on the cancelled peace talks today. It really looks like Sharon is looking for an excuse to back out. The whole point of peace talks is to prevent stuff like this from happening (well, ultimately).
"Why doesn't Israel just take control of Palistine and the Gaza Strip and end this."
Like the past 4 years haven't been enough of a god damn PR disaster?
Galaxy5 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2034 posts, RR: 26 Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4813 times:
From United States, joined Apr 2001, 2111 posts, RR: 43
Posted Sun Mar 14 2004 21:01:31 UTC+1 and read 64 times:
Haveric - Galaxy5 doesn't know how to read.
Just to give you a heads up.
No, just making a point about not jumping to conclusions so quickly, it has been making the Arab press mad that we always jump to the conclusion that the terrorists are islamic. and Russophile gets upset about it also.
"damn, I didnt know prince could Ball like that" - Charlie Murphy
Vafi88 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3116 posts, RR: 18 Reply 16, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4798 times:
Umm, Galaxy. The thing we're arguing about is that it's MOST LIKELY arab muslim extremists through the acts they've already commited. It's not very likely that a Canadian (for example) would go do such a thing.
Oh, and I don't care what Russophile gets upset about.
I'd like to elect a president that has a Higher IQ than a retarted ant.
Tbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7011 posts, RR: 27 Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4785 times:
This really, really sucks. All my family and my best friend lives in Israel, so I definitely do not enjoy hearing that this happens over there. They're all ok as far as I can tell, but the death toll is now up to ten.
Like the 1000 others killed in Israel over the past 3 years.
But there is something quite weird in today's Europe: as long as the victims of terror are Israelis or Jews, no one cares about it.....
Now there are a lot of ceremonies and shows of deep sorrow all over Europe; people are shocked and they keep repeating "nothing can justify such an evil act". But there are no ceremonies and no sorrow here when dozens of young persons are blown to pieces in front of a disco, or when entire families are wiped out in pizzerias and restaurants, or when musicians are killed while performing in a bar, or when babies and grandmothers are assassinated in front of their synagogue or in a shopping mall. And the same was valid when 100 persons were killed in the attack against the Jewish communities of Buenos Aires; who does even remember this attack...?
It is not because the Europeans are not capable of feeling or showing emotions (as can be witnessed these days); it is simply because they don't have any emotion in front of a particular category of terror victims.
I bitterly miss the livery that should never have been changed (repetition...)
QIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4725 times:
I agree with you. Like I wrote in my earlier post....
But what about all those innocent civilian palestinans who get killed by the israeli soldiers every day. And thats both babies and children. Are they worth anything to you? Or is it only the Jews we should feel sorry for?
I feel sorry for all the innocents who gets killed in this stupid war...
Tbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7011 posts, RR: 27 Reply 20, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4721 times:
I think the double standard in Europe is that when Palestinian civilians get killed, there is outrage and lots of voices showing discontent, yet when Israeli civilians are killed there is little to none.
Now I don't live in Europe, so can you tell me how much discontent and reaction there was to the suicide bombing that killed Israeli civilians in Ahsdod?
QIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4719 times:
It is obvious to see that you dont live in Europe. And If you read my earlier thread I was the first to concolence!!!!!
And it was on every newschannel in Denmark and the rest of europe. Like all of the other terrorist attacks around the world. You even see more of that then Israeli attacks on Palestine.
And if there are a suicide bomb in Israel that kills innocent israelis, many people get furious. And I am one of them. I think its stupid that there are some people who just dont want peace. And its not only the palestinians. Im sure the Israelis aren't so innocent all the time. Can you tell me who shot Mr Rabin the former PM of Israel´? It was an extreme israeli jew that didn't want peace. So in my view its not only the palestinians fault.
Tbar220 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7011 posts, RR: 27 Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4714 times:
Alright, its too bad there's no tone of voice online. I wasn't implying anything with my question, I just wanted to know honestly how the European media, like the media you see in Denmark, responded to the recent bombing.
Personally, I feel and get the impression that there is too much blame placed square on Israel for what is happening. I don't think one side is solely to blame, it is too complicated an issue with many layers to say its only one sides fault. Too many people, and even media organizations go to that conclusion.
The scary thing about this attack, was the Hamas confrimed that they were trying for a "mega-attack", trying to explode chemical tanks in the port full of Bromide gas and other toxic chemicals. This isn't the first time this has happened, they attempted to destroy a fuel depot in Tel Aviv, but failed to ignite a conflagration, and they also tried to bring down a tower in Tel Aviv (I fail to remember what its called) but failed. Its these kinds of attacks that are very dangerous in their potential for massive destruction rivaled with what we saw in Madrid.
QIguy24 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4711 times:
I totally agree with you about blaming both sides.
But I don't want to sound disrespectful, the only way the palestinians can do any damage to Israel is by blow them selves and civilians up unfortunatly.
They don't have the same military equipment like the israelis. The palestinans have their small pieces of rock they throw at israeli soldiers to defend their land, and then the soldiers responds by shooting them.
So they can only see one solution. And that is to blow innocent people up which is really terrible. They dont have the chance to take a chopper and fly up to Mr.Sharons home and fire som missils into it like the Israelis does to Mr. Arafat.