B747Skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 1, posted (9 years 2 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7915 times:
These cars are GM cars...
The GM affiliate in UK is Vauxhall, in Germany, it is Opel.
Do you know the Opel Corsa from Germany...?
In Argentina, the same car sells under the name Chevrolet Corsa.
Many cars "change name" when sold in other countries...
Marketing, that is it. But yet the same cars...
Ford plays the same game that GM does...
In Australia, there is a great Australian Ford car, called the Fairlane...
That name was used many years ago in USA by Ford...
UTA_flyingHIGH From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 52 Reply 3, posted (9 years 2 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7897 times:
Vauxhall was an old British motor maunfacturer that was purchased by GM in the early 20th century. They kept the name as it had a very strong brand image in the UK.
BTW here in Ireland we don't have them, we have RHD Opels
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Banco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 55 Reply 6, posted (9 years 2 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7867 times:
As has been pointed out, Vauxhall have been a GM subsidiary since about 1930. Up until about 1980, the Vauxhall and Opel companies, though both owned by GM, were essentially separate, with entirely different product lines.
Obviously, this didn't make huge financial sense given the cost of development, and Vauxhall effectively ceased to exist as a separate entity. The name is kept on because of its perceived Britishness; doubtless, even now there are people stupid enough to believe buying a Vauxhall is a patriotic purchase.
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Bmi330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1449 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 7839 times:
I got to admit buying a vauxhall is easier to accept than buying an Opel. I most likely would have bought a Clio or a 206 or mg If it was corsa Opel. But the fact its vauxhall and my dad has always liked vauxhall and said there good cars and being a British name etc did influence my purchase I did like the corsa though. Brand engineering dose work vauxhalls are still made in Britain but even though Luton closed. Not as if Opel are even German anyways both are owned American.
Vauxhall are thought of as a good car maker why through all that away?
Its the same as every other car company why do VW own AUDI and Bentley they are VW with different badges same with ford and jaguar and Volvo and GM with SAAB. Everyone nose the VX badge is way better than a crappy flash also LOL.
Racko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4838 posts, RR: 21 Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7825 times:
"Brand engineering dose work vauxhalls are still made in Britain"
Wow, they put on the Vauxhall badge in Britain? True British engineering!
Opel still does most of its development alone and has a huge development center in the town next to the one I'm living in, and their cars have become better in the last years since GM lets them do more on their own than before.
Bmi330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1449 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7809 times:
They make the new vectra in Liverpool I believe. Yeah they have got so much better the agila is magic so it is LOL. So brand engineering dose work still why do vw make audi's not just the vw a4 and ford with jaguar.
Nizmo From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 52 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7774 times:
As an interesting sidenote the reason that the Vauxhall Nova was sold on the continent and in south america as the Opel Corsa was that in spanish speaking countries the word 'Nova' as in Opel Nova means wont go! Not to good a car that Opel 'Wont go' Hehehe! also my father tells me a joke of why the Toyota MR2 doesent sell well in france; if you say MR2 in a french styleee accent ( emmmm air duh ) it sounds like French for S**t, (merdé!)
Cptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2549 posts, RR: 14 Reply 15, posted (9 years 2 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7763 times:
I probably shouldn't even get my snout into this as I don't have specifics in front of me, but I do believe that Adam Opel AG dates back into the early 1860s when bicycles were the big deal. I also remember that Opel built French cars near 1900 under the name of Opel/Darraq; I don't remember the origin of Vauxhaul, nor the date of when General Motors acquired each. I do remember that GM's recently-retired Vice President of Design, Wayne Cherry, spent over a dozen years at Opel before he took over USA operations and was instrumentally successful in campaigning for real pieces of crap cars that almost brought the world's latgest corporation to it's knees. Actually, he was very successful in his ineptitude as I now think that GM is maybe the third or fourth largest corporation instead of the previous first. Anyhoo, maybe Opel can do better with their new management team. Oldsmobile Division of GM used to spill more scrap glass and door trim padding in dollar volume than Opel was making on cars; hope this stuff gets sorted out before my retirement checks dry up. Regards...Jack
Nizmo From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 52 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (9 years 2 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7721 times:
I didn't know European models from Opel were sold in Mexico, I spend 2 months a year in FL and have seen a few Peugeots from Mexico but never any other euro model! I now wonder if Chevy in the UK will be using the models of the now defunct Daewoo! If so then that is a real disappointment and places shame on the Chevy brand and lessens the impact and importance of its arrival!
Bmi330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1449 posts, RR: 1 Reply 20, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7672 times:
At the end of the day there all built on GM chases and just different body and engine combinations the vectra and the 9.3 saab share a common chaise as dose the mondao and jaguar x-type for examples vauxhall have a new merroco supper car coming out in the UK witch is a modified Australian holden for 30k. Which will not be made into an opel.
DesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7673 posts, RR: 18 Reply 23, posted (9 years 2 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7639 times:
Interestingly many old Opel/Vauxhall designs get sold to Daewoo who then make them in Korea and either sell them badged as Daewoos or as GM brands. Case-in-point is the old Pontiac LeMans (which was around in the late 80s/early 90s) which was originally sold in Europe as the Opel Astra.
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