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Why Vauxhall And Not Opel In The UK?  
User currently offlineAviationfreak From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1166 posts, RR: 40
Posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 12408 times:

Exactly the same car only a different name and logo. Why not only Opel or only Vauxhall? And where does the name Vauxhall come from?

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User currently offlineB747Skipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 12390 times:

These cars are GM cars...
The GM affiliate in UK is Vauxhall, in Germany, it is Opel.
xxx
Do you know the Opel Corsa from Germany...?
In Argentina, the same car sells under the name Chevrolet Corsa.
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Many cars "change name" when sold in other countries...
Marketing, that is it. But yet the same cars...
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Ford plays the same game that GM does...
In Australia, there is a great Australian Ford car, called the Fairlane...
That name was used many years ago in USA by Ford...
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User currently offlineRg828 From Brazil, joined Jan 2004, 582 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 12374 times:
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User currently offlineUTA_flyingHIGH From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 6495 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 12372 times:

Vauxhall was an old British motor maunfacturer that was purchased by GM in the early 20th century. They kept the name as it had a very strong brand image in the UK.
BTW here in Ireland we don't have them, we have RHD Opels  Smile

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User currently offlineMD11Engineer From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 14026 posts, RR: 62
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12351 times:

Who qwould like to drive a "Popel" anyway?
N.B. "Popel", slang German for what you pick from your nose...  Smile

Jan


User currently offlineMYT332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12347 times:

If your a traveling salesman your drawn to the Vectra TD. Its a fact! They are wanna be BMW drivers, bless em.





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User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 12342 times:

As has been pointed out, Vauxhall have been a GM subsidiary since about 1930. Up until about 1980, the Vauxhall and Opel companies, though both owned by GM, were essentially separate, with entirely different product lines.

Obviously, this didn't make huge financial sense given the cost of development, and Vauxhall effectively ceased to exist as a separate entity. The name is kept on because of its perceived Britishness; doubtless, even now there are people stupid enough to believe buying a Vauxhall is a patriotic purchase.




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User currently offlineBmi330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1450 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 12314 times:

I got to admit buying a vauxhall is easier to accept than buying an Opel. I most likely would have bought a Clio or a 206 or mg If it was corsa Opel. But the fact its vauxhall and my dad has always liked vauxhall and said there good cars and being a British name etc did influence my purchase I did like the corsa though. Brand engineering dose work vauxhalls are still made in Britain but even though Luton closed. Not as if Opel are even German anyways both are owned American.

Vauxhall are thought of as a good car maker why through all that away?

Its the same as every other car company why do VW own AUDI and Bentley they are VW with different badges same with ford and jaguar and Volvo and GM with SAAB. Everyone nose the VX badge is way better than a crappy flash also LOL.


User currently offlineMrwayne From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 12312 times:

opel is a sweet in the UK not a car!

User currently offlineRacko From Germany, joined Nov 2001, 4857 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 12300 times:

"Brand engineering dose work vauxhalls are still made in Britain"

Wow, they put on the Vauxhall badge in Britain? True British engineering!  Smile

Opel still does most of its development alone and has a huge development center in the town next to the one I'm living in, and their cars have become better in the last years since GM lets them do more on their own than before.


User currently offlineBmi330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1450 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 12284 times:

They make the new vectra in Liverpool I believe. Yeah they have got so much better the agila is magic so it is LOL. So brand engineering dose work still why do vw make audi's not just the vw a4 and ford with jaguar.

User currently offlineAviationfreak From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1166 posts, RR: 40
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 12274 times:

Thanks for the interesting replies!

A Chevrolet Corsa! Can't believe it!

Aviationfreak



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User currently offlineNizmo From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12249 times:

As an interesting sidenote the reason that the Vauxhall Nova was sold on the continent and in south america as the Opel Corsa was that in spanish speaking countries the word 'Nova' as in Opel Nova means wont go! Not to good a car that Opel 'Wont go' Hehehe! also my father tells me a joke of why the Toyota MR2 doesent sell well in france; if you say MR2 in a french styleee accent ( emmmm air duh ) it sounds like French for S**t, (merdé!)
Just my$0.02
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User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 42
Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12247 times:

Don't even get me started on the Mitsubishi "Pajero" in Spanish-speaking countries!


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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12246 times:

Don't even get me started on the Mitsubishi "Pajero" in Spanish-speaking countries!

LMAO Big grin

Btw: I saw in some report on TV that the "Seat Cordoba" is sold as a "City Golf" in China.

Patrick


User currently offlineCptkrell From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3220 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 12238 times:

I probably shouldn't even get my snout into this as I don't have specifics in front of me, but I do believe that Adam Opel AG dates back into the early 1860s when bicycles were the big deal. I also remember that Opel built French cars near 1900 under the name of Opel/Darraq; I don't remember the origin of Vauxhaul, nor the date of when General Motors acquired each. I do remember that GM's recently-retired Vice President of Design, Wayne Cherry, spent over a dozen years at Opel before he took over USA operations and was instrumentally successful in campaigning for real pieces of crap cars that almost brought the world's latgest corporation to it's knees. Actually, he was very successful in his ineptitude as I now think that GM is maybe the third or fourth largest corporation instead of the previous first. Anyhoo, maybe Opel can do better with their new management team. Oldsmobile Division of GM used to spill more scrap glass and door trim padding in dollar volume than Opel was making on cars; hope this stuff gets sorted out before my retirement checks dry up. Regards...Jack


all best; jack
User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1796 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (10 years 6 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 12206 times:

The Opel Astra, Corsa, Meriva and Vectra are sold in Mexico as Chevys.......I think also models such as the Opel/Vauxhall Astra is also a Holden in Australia.


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User currently offlineNizmo From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 12196 times:

I didn't know European models from Opel were sold in Mexico, I spend 2 months a year in FL and have seen a few Peugeots from Mexico but never any other euro model! I now wonder if Chevy in the UK will be using the models of the now defunct Daewoo! If so then that is a real disappointment and places shame on the Chevy brand and lessens the impact and importance of its arrival!
Russ  Smile



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User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1796 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (10 years 6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 12193 times:

The new Chevy compact car the "Aveo" sold in the US is a rebadged Daewoo.


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User currently offlineAlcregular From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 6 months ago) and read 12155 times:

This is spooky. While I was on my hols in Spain, I asked my friend this question, as you only see Vauxhall in the UK and Opel everywhere else.

User currently offlineBmi330 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 1450 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12147 times:

At the end of the day there all built on GM chases and just different body and engine combinations the vectra and the 9.3 saab share a common chaise as dose the mondao and jaguar x-type for examples vauxhall have a new merroco supper car coming out in the UK witch is a modified Australian holden for 30k. Which will not be made into an opel.

User currently offlineAndz From South Africa, joined Feb 2004, 8453 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 12135 times:
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Btw: I saw in some report on TV that the "Seat Cordoba" is sold as a "City Golf" in China

We have Citi Golf here, it is a Golf 1 which has been built locally and continuously ever since the Golf 1 was the only Golf, so VW South Africa are building Golf 1 and Golf 4 in the same factory.

http://www.vwsa.co.za/models/citigolf/



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User currently offlineDazultra From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 689 posts, RR: 41
Reply 22, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12128 times:

Who actually cares, Vauxhall or Opel, both still crap brands Big grin


Daz.


User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7780 posts, RR: 16
Reply 23, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 12114 times:

Interestingly many old Opel/Vauxhall designs get sold to Daewoo who then make them in Korea and either sell them badged as Daewoos or as GM brands. Case-in-point is the old Pontiac LeMans (which was around in the late 80s/early 90s) which was originally sold in Europe as the Opel Astra.


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User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1796 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (10 years 5 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 12091 times:

Hmmmmmmmm i'm 99% sure the Pontiac LeMans is a rebadged Daewoo sold in the US as a Pontiac and not the other way arround.


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25 Worldoftui : Don't even get me started on the Mitsubishi "Pajero" in Spanish-speaking countries! Not heard about the Pajero. What was it? I heard that there was a
26 Racko : Pajero is a Mitsubishi SUV, and Pajero means wanker or something like that in Spain. The whole language thing is difficult for companies, I think Dell
27 DesertJets : The LeMans was made by Daewoo in Korea and sold in the US as a Pontiac. However, the car itself originally started life as an Opel Astra. I hope that
28 CPDC10-30 : I now wonder if Chevy in the UK will be using the models of the now defunct Daewoo! There are three Daewoo models being rebadged and sold as Chevrole
29 Post contains images Leezyjet : My friends uncle has a Chevrolet pick up truck in Cyprus. In the UK it is exactly the same as a Vauxhall Brava. I've also seen the same pickup truck b
30 Post contains images Nizmo : I wouldn't mind having that dodge ram srt-10 is it? They could import that anyday!LOL a pickup with a viper engine boy would that annoy those little b
31 Marcus : The LeMans was made by Daewoo in Korea and sold in the US as a Pontiac. However, the car itself originally started life as an Opel Astra. I hope that
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